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As i stated earlier, the issue is already identified as software (ios 18) related.
15 Pro line is only affected in ios 18 version.

The pixelation issue yes. But iPhone 15 Pro with iOS 17 also had very bad ProRAW quality comparing to iPhone 14 Pro Max.
 
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As i stated earlier, the issue is already identified as software (ios 18) related.
15 Pro line is only affected in ios 18 version.

The different tolerance levels of different sourced manufacturers could be the reason software
The pixelation issue yes. But iPhone 15 Pro with iOS 17 also had very bad ProRAW quality comparing to iPhone 14 Pro Max.

I’m thinking, if this issue is not every single device of same version running same version OS, it could be different sourced parts from different manufacturers where there is a variation in accepted tolerance levels. This is then exaggerated by buggy programming that’s not picked up in-house as they don’t have phones with every possible combination of parts. It can even be parts for a sub-assembly that’s doing it, where that supplier has used a variation of sub-suppliers for same part.
 
The pixelation issue yes. But iPhone 15 Pro with iOS 17 also had very bad ProRAW quality comparing to iPhone 14 Pro Max.
Yes.
16 Pro Series with ProCam seems to achieve similar results to 14 Pro Series (Native).
At least better than my previous 15 PM.
 
The different tolerance levels of different sourced manufacturers could be the reason software

I’m thinking, if this issue is not every single device of same version running same version OS, it could be different sourced parts from different manufacturers where there is a variation in accepted tolerance levels. This is then exaggerated by buggy programming that’s not picked up in-house as they don’t have phones with every possible combination of parts. It can even be parts for a sub-assembly that’s doing it, where that supplier has used a variation of sub-suppliers for same part.
The pixelation issue, the only issue that im referring; was present in every 16 Pro i tested. I tested more than 20. Spain, Portugal, Ireland. (Apple Stores, Family)…

I tested also two 15PM , both updated to IOS 18. (Issue Present).

14PM series i cannot confirm.

And yes, as you described is Software fault (Pixelation), because the previous results with iOS 17 didn’t show that abnormalities (with the same exact device). - 15PM

And after the update the problem is immediately visible.
I confirmed that with 2 personal 15PM.

Independently of the manufacturing variations. if the problem appears only in one software version [IOS 17 versus 18] with the exact same device) it makes no sense to be hardware relatable.

But as you stated; it is caused by an unpolished software.

That was confirmed with the open case that i have with apple assistance.
 
Sounds like you need to convince Apple to replace your phone. if you have AppleCare plus on it, you can use one of your accidental damage options and get it replaced perhaps
I will need more than one replaces then ahahaah.
Two iphone 15PM and Two iphone 16PM. All suffer from this issue.
Both 15PM did not have that in ios 17.
Now they are exactly the same as my 16 Pros.
 
I will need more than one replaces then ahahaah.
Two iphone 15PM and Two iphone 16PM. All suffer from this issue.
Both 15PM did not have that in ios 17.
Now they are exactly the same as my 16 Pros.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I have an iPhone 15 Pro Max as well that I tested last night and it is pixelated just like my 16 Pro Max desert titanium. However, my natural titanium does not suffer from any of these issues whatsoever. It’s been perfect. I don’t know why, but it’s not affected.
 
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Sadly ios 18.2 did not solve this.
Apple must not think it’s a broad problem. Are there any YouTubers talking about it? I haven’t been able to find any complaints.

The Pro camera by Moment app in manual focus with peeking is the only app that works now when using my Desert titanium 16 PM. Manual focus delivers great results. The ProCam app I was using, that you are using, doesn’t work for me anymore. It produces the same results now as the default camera. The moment app is the only app that works for me. It’s a focus issue with the 16 PM (and other iPhones) on iOS 18.xx. Something to do with the phase detection and contrast that is used for focus. This is why manual focusing works best. Yes it’s more time consuming, but taking the time to get a great shot requires patience. So I don’t mind using manual focus. Hopefully apple will fix this problem soon

Max zoom default camera ProRAW (well beyond the 100% range).

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Pro camera by Moment max zoom ProRAW with manual focus using focus peeking

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Yeah i can see, out of focus. However i do not experience myself that, at least at that level.
The pixelation is what it triggers me the most.

Yeah i did not find any YouTuber, talking about this, neither the blue images with astro photos; with some sensors units; only Shayne…

Im still at iOS 18.1; and ProCam works exceptionally well. Maybe iOS 18.1.1 messed something in that regard?

I understand this almost as a critical bug. My native app, for me, as a ProRaw user only; is unusable at this stage.

As you said, IOS 18 and above, is the possible problem for Pixelation, Wrong Focus.

I will wait another week for the final version of IOS 18.2; and i will contact the technical assistance again.
 
Well, hopefully that doesn’t mean anything. Hopefully the final release has additional fixes since it’s no longer a beta.
It happened with final realese of ios 18.1; more specifically about the bug with proraw photos with night mode enabled.
Final RC of 18.1 still had the bug. Next week, the final version, solved the problem.

Fingers crossed 🤞🏻.
 
It happened with final realese of ios 18.1; more specifically about the bug with proraw photos with night mode enabled.
Final RC of 18.1 still had the bug. Next week, the final version, solved the problem.

Fingers crossed 🤞🏻.
Ok…So when will 18.2 be released? Wednesday? Friday? Next Monday? Have they mentioned when?
 
Today is the day of the public realese - 18.2 .

From apples newsroom: "(...) CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA Apple today announced the release of iOS 18.2, iPadOS 18.2, and macOS Sequoia 15.2, introducing a brand-new set of Apple Intelligence features that will elevate users’ experience with iPhone, iPad, and Mac (...)".
/PRESS RELEASEDecember 11, 2024/
 
I have updated and tested with the desert titanium iPhone that I have that has the most camera quality issues compared to my other iPhone. The update seems to have improved. The image quality some. I’ll probably have to give it some more time and let the software do its thing in the background and test the cameras more later. But I did run some tests and my focus accuracy seems to be a little bit better and it seemed to have improved a little bit more after closing all of the apps and doing a hard reset on my phone after the update. The Camera then started to behave a little bit better still after the hard reset. Anyway, I’ll test more as I go throughout the day. Aaron with Zollo tech on YouTube said that the 18.2 update fixed some issues with night mode . Of course I’ll have to wait until later to test that out. The ProRAW file stacking process now takes a little bit longer than it used to to finalize the image which is good. On my desert titanium phone it was happening too quickly prior to the update. Just something I noticed. I need to upload some of these photos on my iMac 27 inch computer screen and see what they look like large. I tend to look at the image quality on my iPhone by zooming in too far past 100% where the image starts to break down.
 
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