The peak and pop is neat, but not that different from a long press with action hid behind an overflow menu on android.
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"It's not a phone, it's a Galaxy"
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Agree. It's just a right click menu or so. Apple is notorious for renaming stuff that is already out there and standing back and letting the users claim Apple invented it. They do put their spin on things but they really aren't doing anything revolutionary.
Even in cases where Apple does things "first" that's really to be expected. They have the user base, they have the cache, they have the money and it seems they can put lipstick on a pig and people would kiss it. Others don't have that and it' serves them better to wait and let Apple drive the market. So be it. Doesn't mean they do it better, just first. The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese as they say.
I really do think Samsung will move their peak and pop to other phablets and phones. The large S6+ is an example of them getting ready really. I LOL when someone told me they copied Apple by increasing the size of the S6 to a + model. They could have done it a while ago, but had little to no need. Yes, now that the iSheep are all finally embracing the larger phablets, now makes much more sense to increase its size.
I suppose any criticism on here has an easy answer. If Android devices have issues, use a third party launcher. If an iPhone has issues, jailbreak. This would end many of the fanboy squabbles on here.
I would extend that to the complaints about stock android being featureless, with the exception of multiwindow and the pen, there is a third party (and probably more efficient) app for that
Android has a native app closer/ memory and resource saver...your app may appear open and the second you click on it, it will return to where you are
Correct and I like the way they manage open apps. My point is however the Note 5 doesn't lag as the other guy keeps harping. I put it out there because if he's on various forums you'll also hear lots of chatter about multitasking and issues too.
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On Samsung it's common to use non OEM Launchers. That's kinda the main point about Android. Says a lot about the Note series that you can do so and not only not slow it down but speed it up even more. I've run Nova on both my Nte 3 and now my Note 5.
The Note 3 never shuddered either....up until I moved to 5.0. I wouldn't even call it a shudder, 5.0 just put so much draw on the processor that it just plain slowed down. Not horrible mind you but noticeable. I knew then it was time for me to move to the next gen phone. Otherwise it does still work fine and most people wouldn't likely mind. I'm a picky user though.
Acctually no, because on an iPhone you risk bricking it by jailbreaking it, on Android you are just installing a low risk app to change the launcher and improve performance.
Nah that really never happens, at least in recent history. At the very least, a DFU restore is possible.
If you tweaked something called nvram buried deep somewhere I have no idea where, you could brick on iOS. But that's after you're jailbroken and I couldn't even tell you how to do it. That's the only instance I've ever read about bricking on iOS. The boot loader is locked too, doing stuff on unlocked boot loader android is definitely more dangerous.
I would also argue installing a third party launcher does not fix underlying performance issues, only issues with the stock launcher itself.
My point being, going to the app store and downloading and installing a launcher is a hell of a lot easier and risk free for the average Joe, then jailbreaking an iOS device.
And quicker. You have to wait for jail break, etc. If you want to stay jailbroke you have to wait for the jailbreak. Negates the day updates advantages of ios.
Haha that's originally why I tried android, sick of waiting for the damn jailbreak.
These Chinese groups have really picked up the pace lately though!
I wasn't talking about risks or lack of, more about solutions for those who argue about customisation.
Using the Samsung keyboard on the note 5 even after using nova still gets stuttering. Now stuttering to me might be something that most note/s6 users find as normal. But coming from phones that don't have touchwiz i can see the stuttering which is why I returned it.
A launcher is a quick fix but I don't think you understand that touchwiz is still operating in the background and causing lag.
No offense.
We all understand, we just don't share your feelings or experience.
Touchwize is a framework that permeates the entire system. You can't get ride of it short of something like cyanogen mode, paranoid Android, etc.
Again no offesne, you must have a lemon...and why wouldn't you use an alternate keyboard if it's so bad? I know the whole "I shouldn't have to thing", but you sure are wasting a lot of effort trying to convince us we are wrong and you are right. If you have the note 5, direct that effort at troubleshooting.... Or downloading a alternative keyboard.
I haven't bothered to read the hole thread, just skipped through it but does anyone else think it suits Samsung if Apple sell loads of phones? How much does Samsung make from the sale of each iPhone sale?
As for one copying the other, who copies the other most. A lot of what Apple are doing have been copied from elsewhere. Even 3D touch is very similar to what Samsung done on the S4 a few years ago except with the S4 you didn't have to touch the screen. Moving photos looks a lot like HTC Zoe camera, same 3 seconds video.
I never got why people say the S6 is a copy of the iP6 apart from the bottom looking similar and even then it is really only the 3.5mm jack that is the same. If you want to see a phone that looks the same as an iPhone 6 then look at a Samsung Ativ S and if Samsung copied that from Apple they can see into the future.
As for one copying the other, who copies the other most. A lot of what Apple are doing have been copied from elsewhere. Even 3D touch is very similar to what Samsung done on the S4 a few years ago except with the S4 you didn't have to touch the screen. Moving photos looks a lot like HTC Zoe camera, same 3 seconds video.
I never got why people say the S6 is a copy of the iP6 apart from the bottom looking similar and even then it is really only the 3.5mm jack that is the same. If you want to see a phone that looks the same as an iPhone 6 then look at a Samsung Ativ S and if Samsung copied that from Apple they can see into the future.
Yeap, agree, Apple in my mind blatantly ripped off the Ativ S design language for the IPhone 6.
I couldn't care less who copies who as long as I can buy a nice phone at the end of it.
If a feature is copied or had inspiration drawn from it, it is sign of a good design.
If a feature is copied or had inspiration drawn from it, it is sign of a good design.
I understand. At the same time no offense but I don't think you speak for everyone on this thread.
Again no offense but what you regard as normal use, might be lag in my eyes and many others as referenced earlier.
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Great post!Really, Samsung? That's the best line you could come up with in your latest ad? It doesn't even make logical sense
Customers know and understand that the iPhone does not have wireless charging, but there are ways to showcase how useful the feature could be rather than just saying we have it and the iPhone doesn't. They don't seem to understand that it's not always all about the iPhone.
When they directly display the iPhone in their ads, it's basically free advertisement for Apple. They can't win by attacking the iPhone in that way, because comparisons make them look desperate (Yes, the iPhone is the iPhone, but look! It doesn't have this, haha!).
They need to forget the iPhone comparisons and showcase their product's strengths for once.
Thanks!
If I were them, I would forget Apple and focus on the bigger issues because they're bleeding market share every day. If things continue that way, we'll have another HTC but at a much larger scale. Frankly, I would be happy if that happened because that would give all the other manufacturers a chance to make profit and elevate their products.
Samsung isn't preventing any of the manufacturers from making a profit and elevating their products. Part of Samsung's problem is that competing Android manufacturers are also creating better phones.
Did you guys see the latest two ads for this campaign (the Samsung Pay one and the S6 Edge and S6 Edge+ one)? It seems like mocking Apple wasn't enough, so now they mock them and copy their advertising style as well!
I guess they don't understand the concepts of free advertisement and, more importantly, telling people not to do something will make them want to do it even more (in this case, buy).
I guess they don't understand the concepts of free advertisement and, more importantly, telling people not to do something will make them want to do it even more (in this case, buy).
Samsung's marketing department hit a home run with these its not a phone its a galaxy ads.
Apple started it basically calling out Samsung that if its not an iPhone and its funny watching how but hurt ios users are getting.
These ads are excellent marketing and are doing exactly what there supposed to do.its even got an iPhone user posting in an alternative section about them on a apple forum.
It's not a phone! It's a galaxy!
Lossen up and relax a bit before you have a heart attack
Let's be honest right now...the edge is by far the best looking and sexiest phone out and you can't handle it lol.
It's a galaxy!!!!
I think the ads are funny because from what I gather people who aren't paying attention (most people when ad breaks are on) think it's advertising the iPhone lol. Apple get a bit of free association marketing. I couldn't care less about mocking each other, but I do think the ads give out a mixed message. My father in law thought the gold S6 edge ad here in the uk was the new iPhone!
If you are in and out the room and miss the end of an ad, it leaves an impression, especially if you've copied another companies marketing visuals. It works, but perhaps not entirely the way Samsung had hoped.
If you are in and out the room and miss the end of an ad, it leaves an impression, especially if you've copied another companies marketing visuals. It works, but perhaps not entirely the way Samsung had hoped.
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