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bobcomer

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Look for “com.apple.powermanagement.externalmediamounted”.

You’re welcome.
Anyway, if an SD card prevents sleep, I wont leave it in, I'll just have it with me, no biggie. And I also see older utilities to get around that issue. Like I said, it'll be awhile until I can test it, and it's not a deal breaker for using SD Cards in any case.
 

Krizoitz

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I don’t know, why would they assume a comment about two wives in particular was aimed at the entirety of spousal history, when it wasn’t?

That comment was about wives, but could just as easily be about husbands. I know plenty of couples where that particular role is reversed.
You didn’t say my wife.
You didn’t say our wives.
You didn’t say husbands.
You didn’t say puppies.
You didn’t say helicopters.
You said wives.

I didn’t have to assume a thing, all I had to do was read what was written. The meaning is literally right there.
 

TrueBlou

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You didn’t say my wife.
You didn’t say our wives.
You didn’t say husbands.
You didn’t say puppies.
You didn’t say helicopters.
You said wives.

I didn’t have to assume a thing, all I had to do was read what was written. The meaning is literally right there.

I didn’t have to say our wives, puppies, mashed potatoes, or anything else. Wives is perfectly acceptable in the English language for referring to two individual spouses. You know, wife - plural noun: wives.

I also didn’t say all wives, or all women, or all men, dogs, kittens, giraffes, penguins or step ladders.

You can read more into an innocent comment which was setting up a joke if you like, but to me, that says more about how your mind works than anything else.
 
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AdonisSMU

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Yeah I am not sold on the idea of putting unnecessary ports on the MacBook Pro. Johnny Ives was a tad bit premature but Apple should've just let/help people build solutions that further the use of USB-C ports tbqh.

At least they didn't try to include USB-A port thank goodness. But man what a missed opportunity to cut some unnecessary weight and bulk up for for the right reasons like battery life.
 

MedRed

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Yeah I am not sold on the idea of putting unnecessary ports on the MacBook Pro. Johnny Ives was a tad bit premature but Apple should've just let/help people build solutions that further the use of USB-C ports tbqh.

At least they didn't try to include USB-A port thank goodness. But man what a missed opportunity to cut some unnecessary weight and bulk up for for the right reasons like battery life.
5 years later and still no end in sight for HDMI isn't a "tad bit premature."
 
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matram

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For me the least useful port is the SD card as I use other formats. i assume the photo pro would also have card reader with better performance and supporting more formats.

I think in a way the magsafe is a result of issues with usb-c and cables. This is for Apple to get their own charging solution that they control. Frankly I think the USB ”standard” is a confusing mess So I understand it but still prefer the flexility of cargin on both sides and with generic chargers.
 

willzyx

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OP is mad a $2T company didn't ask for his personal input in designing the new MacBooks.

Ask any professional photographer, they will all tell you the same thing. The comeback of inputs is welcome.
Don't like it, don't use it.
 
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Analog Kid

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Except you aren’t merely stating your preferences, you are making statements asserting things as true or false that are opinions. There is a difference.

Hmm. I don’t seem to be doing that. This is the comment you replied to:
If the SD card slot was replaced with a USB port, I’d have more ports and two on each side.

That‘s not an opinion, that’s a tautology. As such, I presented it as true.


But then I just saw you start yelling "misogynist" at someone who was laughing at himself for a pile of obsolete laptops he has squirreled away-- so I recognize that you don't let context stand between you and a fight.
 
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AdonisSMU

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OP is mad a $2T company didn't ask for his personal input in designing the new MacBooks.

Ask any professional photographer, they will all tell you the same thing. The comeback of inputs is welcome.
Don't like it, don't use it.
They were A $2T dollar company before these new MBPs. All they had to do was get rid of touch bar and add M1 chips on a 16” device. An SD card slot and a hdmi slot is like adding raisins to bland potatoes salad...totally unnecessary.
 
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Leon1das

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The hdmi and sd card port on these is totally unnecessary. WTF?! Everyone already bought connectors for these items over the last 5 years.

MagSafe was a mess. Yeah it was branded well but I didnt like it because my cables were always ruined and I had to spend a lot of money replacing it. Imo TB3/4 works great and haven’t had to replace it once.

Good grief… ??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️ That was a step backwards and for very little gain. The size is perfect. Apple could’ve added more battery capacity.
Space-wise - I myself would have prefered Magsafe removed, and that space occupied by full USB-A...

USB-C charging is everywhere, and using tiny GaN chargers to power everything in the house with a single USB-C cable is beyond anything else... Just look at the Anker's portfolio.

In the same time, USB-A sadly hasnt left us yet - and many clients and other devices still have them...
 
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MajorFubar

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I agree about USB-A. If their reason to include a varied array of 'legacy ports' on this machine was to help the majority of its intended users, USB-A should have been at the top of the list. I can get away with not having it because mostly I'll use my machine docked, but i'll still have to carry a USB-C to A dongle in my laptop bag for occasions when I need it. Literally millions of devices still use USB-A including most memory sticks.
 

AdonisSMU

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I agree about USB-A. If their reason to include a varied array of 'legacy ports' on this machine was to help the majority of its intended users, USB-A should have been at the top of the list. I can get away with not having it because mostly I'll use my machine docked, but i'll still have to carry a USB-C to A dongle in my laptop bag for occasions when I need it. Literally millions of devices still use USB-A including most memory sticks.
I would still hate that too. One port type that does everything is plenty.
 

MajorFubar

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I would still hate that too.
We know. But overwhelmingly both people here and professional reviewers disagree [about the return of the ports]. So - while accepting the perspective that technically there is no wrong opinion - based on the balance of the views expressed here, you're wrong.
 

telo123

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Wait, so you weren't being sarcastic with your original post?
Love the ports. No need to bring my dongle anymore should I get any of them.

Gotta love it. No matter what a company does, not everyone will be happy. We humans just LOVE to complain!
 
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Alameda

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I'm not sure how many people want HDMI but thank god that Apple brough back SD card slot and MagSafe.
Pros wanted HDMI.

Every office conference room has a projector. They all have HDMI. Seriously, good luck finding a projector with DisplayPort. Bringing dongles along is a pain. Yes, dongles work, and they’re great on a desk, but it’s a lousy solution for running around the office.

I’ve been to countless business meetings with my USB-only Mac’s, and these dongles don’t look professional and they don’t convey Apple’s sleek, cutting-edge image. A MacBook Pro on a conference table with a bunch of cables hanging off a dongle looks awful.
 

the8thark

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This whole topic basically can be summarised to
I’ve been to countless business meetings with my USB-only Mac’s, and these dongles don’t look professional and they don’t convey Apple’s sleek, cutting-edge image. A MacBook Pro on a conference table with a bunch of cables hanging off a dongle looks awful.
VS
I would still hate that too. One port type that does everything is plenty.

Most people here are thinking about this in a sample size of one - themselves. Not considering what others would want or need.
The reality really is just this:
No matter what a company does, not everyone will be happy. We humans just LOVE to complain!

Also the other thing is in professional work, having the ports is great. A port you do not use does not hamper your user experience, unless you feel the port makes the machine unacceptably thick in your opinion. If you want an entry level machine with generic ports that require dongles for extra functionality, Apple sell those machines as well.
 
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Alameda

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This whole topic basically can be summarised to

VS


Most people here are thinking about this in a sample size of one - themselves. Not considering what others would want or need.
The reality really is just this:


Also the other thing is in professional work, having the ports is great. A port you do not use does not hamper your user experience, unless you feel the port makes the machine unacceptably thick in your opinion. If you want an entry level machine with generic ports that require dongles for extra functionality, Apple sell those machines as well.
They didn’t remove the USB-C, as you know.

I just got mine yesterday. I’ve been transferring everything over from my 2017 MBP. I still haven’t unpacked the MagSafe adapter, I just plugged in the USB-C charger cable and it worked fine.

If you want a USB-C only Mac, there’s plenty to choose from. I don’t understand the griping about getting something additional. It’s a huge plus for me. MagSafe is superior, but I can still use USB-C.
 

bobcomer

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Is it possible to boot off an SD card? It'd be a fun, albeit not very performant, way to play with different OSes.
I don't know on the Mac, but SD cards really aren't that great stability-wise. At one time, I was booting old PC's off of SD cards for a tester we have, but it eventually dies in not too long a time. I switched to CF for those testers and that works MUCH better.
 
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Alameda

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I don't know on the Mac, but SD cards really aren't that great stability-wise. At one time, I was booting old PC's off of SD cards for a tester we have, but it eventually dies in not too long a time. I switched to CF for those testers and that works MUCH better.
I’ve found the same; occasional and rare errors with SD cards. But they’re very widely used in cameras as the sole storage format, so they aren’t too bad. It’s just necessary to have a backup.

And, of course there are millions of very cheaply-made SD cards and some of those wind up with SanDisk labels, so it’s important to buy these products through a trusted supply chain. For these products, I use B&H Photo and I don’t trust Amazon’s “vendor” system at all.
 

wilberforce

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I’ve found the same; occasional and rare errors with SD cards. But they’re very widely used in cameras as the sole storage format, so they aren’t too bad. It’s just necessary to have a backup.

And, of course there are millions of very cheaply-made SD cards and some of those wind up with SanDisk labels, so it’s important to buy these products through a trusted supply chain. For these products, I use B&H Photo and I don’t trust Amazon’s “vendor” system at all.
Unfortunately the new MBPs also have issues with the SD card slot. Either will not read, or read very slowly, many SD cards, despite the cards reading perfectly well via a dongle to a USB-C port. There is no pattern of type, brand, size, format or age of card. Other threads on this. So suggest check all your SD cards with Blackmagic disk speed test. Or use a dongle. This is the only (minor) disappointment I have with the new MBPs. (From a fellow Alamedan.)
 

bobcomer

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I’ve found the same; occasional and rare errors with SD cards. But they’re very widely used in cameras as the sole storage format, so they aren’t too bad. It’s just necessary to have a backup.

And, of course there are millions of very cheaply-made SD cards and some of those wind up with SanDisk labels, so it’s important to buy these products through a trusted supply chain. For these products, I use B&H Photo and I don’t trust Amazon’s “vendor” system at all.
I still like SD Cards, just not for booting! I usually keep all my install stuff on them. (more than 1 copy of course)
 
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m3digi

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I don’t want to fan the flames, but I will. I’m in the ‘The HDMI and SD card ports should never have been brought back” camp. They are marginally useful.

Use cases:

1. Important ‘professional’ work to be done. SD card slot issue arises - resort to a dongle to transfer data from the SD card

2. ‘Professional’ presentation- Important to display externally at ‘any’ resolution…

Connect a dongle.

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Conclusion

An additional Thunderbolt port would have been far more useful than those dinosaur ports. Since there is a determination to make the MacBook Pro like Walmart’s Low Price special, why not just bring back the USB-A port?

Referring to iPhone Antennagate, Steve Jobs would have told those who are complaining, ‘Deal with it!’ The majority of those considering the MacBook Pro would still buy it.

iPhones, including ‘Pro’, don’t have headphones jacks. Judging from the immense number of iPhones Apple sells, people seem to be doing just fine without the headphone jack.

What are iPad ‘Pro’ users doing without the dinoports? How are they hindered without them? Let’s invite them to weigh in.

Instead, this is now an HP/Dell customer type issue. Congratulations Apple. People are angry with or without the ports.

We’ve had years to accept progress with the transition to Thunderbolt / USB-C. Yet, somehow Apple rationalized going backwards, thinking it would be able to satisfy those who would likely buy their (unique and expensive) product with or without the VGA port and Floppy disk. I’d also go so far as to say that the MacBook Pro is probably a couple of millimeters thicker than it needs to be because of the HDMI port.

Reasonably, doesn’t it make sense to stir anger while moving things forward?

Time to move forward people.

Just saying.
 
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adib

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Pros wanted HDMI.

Every office conference room has a projector. They all have HDMI. Seriously, good luck finding a projector with DisplayPort. Bringing dongles along is a pain. Yes, dongles work, and they’re great on a desk, but it’s a lousy solution for running around the office.

I’ve been to countless business meetings with my USB-only Mac’s, and these dongles don’t look professional and they don’t convey Apple’s sleek, cutting-edge image. A MacBook Pro on a conference table with a bunch of cables hanging off a dongle looks awful.
Correction: every conference room in your office all have HDMI.

"Foreign" conference rooms often still uses VGA. Which still works just fine if the projector is still 1080p or below.

OTOH the "better" conference rooms would have Lightning and USB-C as well.
 
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