Damn! I can confirm using a USB receiver works! I connected the G502X to the Mac with the supplied Dongle, and the difference is VERY visible. Still not as smooth as Windows but I can work on this now without getting irritated.
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Mac mini: 4k @ 120hz?
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This adapter only Support 4k@120hz 8b 4:2:0 also with custom Firmware!
Cable Matters 48Gbps 8K 60Hz USB C auf HDMI Kabel 1,8m für 4K 120Hz und HDR - kompatibel mit Thunderbolt 3, USB4 und Thunderbolt 4 Port - (maximale Auflösung auf jedem Mac beträgt 4K@60Hz)
Cable Matters 48Gbps USB-C-zu-HDMI-Kabel unterstützt 4K 120Hz und 8K 60Hz HDR - kompatibel mit Thunderbolt-3- und Thunderbolt-4-Port - 1,8 m - maximale Auflösung auf jedem Mac über diesen Adapter:...
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FYI I bought exactly this adapter and mine was VMM6100Can confirm that this Cable Matter Adapter is the best from this Brand, I tested all of them 8k Adapters:
Cable Matters 48Gbps USB C auf HDMI 2.1 Adapter (USB C HDMI Adapter) für 4K 120Hz und 8K 60Hz HDR - Thunderbolt 3, USB4, Thunderbolt 4 Port kompatibel-Maximale Auflösung auf jedem Mac beträgt 4K 60Hz
Cable Matters 48Gbps USB-C-zu-HDMI-Adapter-Kabel unterstützt 4K 120Hz und 8K 60Hz HDR - kompatibel mit Thunderbolt-3 und Thunderbolt-4-Port - 1,8m - maximale unterstützte Auflösung auf jedem Mac 4...www.amazon.de
It can do 4k@120hz 4:2:2
Alan Spiegel does get with this Adapter RGB 4k@120hz, dont know how they can reach this. This Adapter has an VIA Billboard:
Has anyone was able to make this hack working on Mac m1 + Sony A90j (which supports VRR).
I am asking because I tried changing EEID, updating firmware for Cable matters cable https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08QDV5H4M?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&tag=macr05-21.
still no luck
I am asking because I tried changing EEID, updating firmware for Cable matters cable https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08QDV5H4M?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&tag=macr05-21.
still no luck
Yes but it working with 4:2:2 4k@120hz with EDID override. U can make the Firmwareupdate to 6.02.120FYI I bought exactly this adapter and mine was VMM6100
Same thing here. I ordered two more adapters (different ones) to play some more lottery on that...
I also haven’t had any luck with that one. Seems like it’s a no go, same with the Sabrent USB type c to HDMI 2.1
The Cable Matters usb type c to hdmi 2.1 adapter (VMM6100) will work at 422 with EDID changes.
Ok after Testing this Adapters and Stations/Docks:
Also with Custom Firmware 4:2:2 4k 120hz
4:2:2 4k 120hz
4:2:2 4k 120hz
4:2:2 4k 120hz
4:4:4 4k 60hz
4:2:0 4k 120hz 8b
Limited to 60hz 4k
Limited to 4k 60hz
4:2:0 4k 60hz
Can select 120hz 4k but do not work correctly (Waiting for Support answer, hoping for an Firmware update)
4:4:4 4k 60hz
This is the best one:
With Custom Firmware(https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-4k-120hz.2267035/post-31968090), Thankful getting from Cable Matters Support!!! > 4k@120hz 4:4:4 8b
I does connect the Anker Adapter to the TB 4 iTEC Dock, it works perfek also in 4:4:4 8b 4k120hz too.
The Anker does also work when u connect it directly to your Mac! But I like the one cable solution
Cable Matters 48Gbps 8K 60Hz USB C auf HDMI Kabel 1,8m für 4K 120Hz und HDR - kompatibel mit Thunderbolt 3, USB4 und Thunderbolt 4 Port - (maximale Auflösung auf jedem Mac beträgt 4K@60Hz)
Cable Matters 48Gbps USB-C-zu-HDMI-Kabel unterstützt 4K 120Hz und 8K 60Hz HDR - kompatibel mit Thunderbolt-3- und Thunderbolt-4-Port - 1,8 m - maximale Auflösung auf jedem Mac über diesen Adapter:...
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Cable Matters 48Gbps USB C auf HDMI 2.1 Adapter (USB C HDMI Adapter) für 4K 120Hz und 8K 60Hz HDR - Thunderbolt 3, USB4, Thunderbolt 4 Port kompatibel-Maximale Auflösung auf jedem Mac beträgt 4K 60Hz
Cable Matters 48Gbps USB-C-zu-HDMI-Adapter-Kabel unterstützt 4K 120Hz und 8K 60Hz HDR - kompatibel mit Thunderbolt-3 und Thunderbolt-4-Port - 1,8m - maximale unterstützte Auflösung auf jedem Mac 4...
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Cable Matters 48Gbps USB C auf HDMI 2.1 Adapter unterstützt 4K@120Hz/8K@60Hz (DSC erforderlich) HDR 100W PD, Mit Thunderbolt 4/3 kompatibel -Die maximale Auflösung auf jedem MacBook beträgt 4K@60Hz
Upgrade auf HDMI 2.1 oder zukunftssicher Ihr Setup mit dem Cable Matters USB-C-zu-HDMI-2.1-Adapter; HDMI-auf-USB-C-Adapter kombiniert den neuesten HDMI 2.1-Standard mit der Vielseitigkeit von USB-...
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SATECHI USB4 Multiport Adapter – USB-C PD Aufladen, Gigabit Ethernet, USB-C Daten, bis zu 8K HDMI – Für M2/ M1 MacBook Pro/Air, M2/ M1 iPad Pro/Air, M2 Mac Mini, iMac M1
Satechi ST-U4MA3M station d'accueil USB Type-C Gris
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cablecc Câble USB 4 USB-C Type-C vers HDMI 2.0 femelle 8K 60 Hz UHD 4K HDMI mâle
USB4 USB-C Typ-C-Quelle auf weibliches HDMI 2.0-Display 8K 60HZ UHD 4K HDMI-Monitorkabel Dies ist ein 8K-USB4-USB-C-Typ-C-zu-HDMI-Kabel. Unterstützt kein HDMI-zu-USB-C. Es ist nicht bidirektional....
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Club3D CAC-1588 USB Gen2 Typ-C zu HDMI™ 8K60Hz oder 4K120Hz HDR10, DSC1.2, Power Delivery 3.0 Activ Adapter St./B.
Der Club 3D CAC- 1588 ist ein USB Typ-C auf HDMI™ (8K60Hz oder 4K120Hz) Adapter mit PD Charging. Der HDMI™ Port ermöglicht es Ihnen, einen HDMI™ Monitor anzuschließen, so dass Sie Videos auf einem...
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Club 3D USB Gen2 Typ-C auf HDMI 4K120Hz HDR10 mit DSC 1.2 aktiver Adapter St./B. CAC-1586
Club3D Adapter USB 3.2 Typ C > HDMI 2.1 HDR10 4K120Hz aktiv retail
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KabelDirekt – 8K USB C auf HDMI 2.1 Adapter Kabel für eSport-taugliche Leistung mit bruchfesten Metallsteckern – 1,8 m (überträgt 8K/60Hz und 4K/120Hz von Gaming-Laptops auf Fernseher oder Monitore)
KabelDirekt – 8K USB C auf HDMI 2.1 Adapter Kabel für eSport-taugliche Leistung mit bruchfesten Metallsteckern – 1,8 m (überträgt 8K/60Hz und 4K/120Hz von Gaming-Laptops auf Fernseher oder Monitore)
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i-tec Thunderbolt 4 Dockingstation mit Stromversorgung 96W - 2X TB 4, 1x HDMI, 1x 2.5GLAN, 4X USB 3.1 Gen2, 1x SD, 1x Audio/Mik
I-TEC Thunderbolt 4 Dual Ekranas Docking Station PD 96W IT version
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4:4:4 4k 60hz
This is the best one:
Anker USB C auf HDMI Adapter (8K@60Hz oder 4K@144Hz), 518 USB-C Adapter (8K HDMI), USB C to HDMI, für MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Pixelbook, XPS und mehr
Anker USB C auf HDMI Adapter (8K@60Hz oder 4K@144Hz), 518 USB-C Adapter (8K HDMI), USB C to HDMI, für MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Pixelbook, XPS und mehr
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I does connect the Anker Adapter to the TB 4 iTEC Dock, it works perfek also in 4:4:4 8b 4k120hz too.
The Anker does also work when u connect it directly to your Mac! But I like the one cable solution
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Ok after Testing this Adapters and Stations/Docks:
Can select 120hz 4k but do not work correctly (Waiting for Support answer, hoping for an Firmware update)i-tec Thunderbolt 4 Dockingstation mit Stromversorgung 96W - 2X TB 4, 1x HDMI, 1x 2.5GLAN, 4X USB 3.1 Gen2, 1x SD, 1x Audio/Mik
I-TEC Thunderbolt 4 Dual Ekranas Docking Station PD 96W IT versionwww.amazon.de
4:4:4 4k 60hz
Weird, I also have that one and tested it first before getting some random adapters. I can't even select 120Hz. Actually, it doesn't even do 4k + HDR (just green flickering) on an LG Oled 48C2. Not a cable issue, either, because it works with the adapters.
But we have to talk about Bandwidth and Specifications.
Iam not a Pro so if @stevemr123 and @joev can Assist it will be perfect!
DP has a limitation of HBR3 width 32,4 Gbit/s with 4 Lanes, so it can do 4x8Gbps.
de.m.wikipedia.org
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Mac does not support DSC i think ?? So we need uncompressed Bandwidth to check. In my Case Mac does never use DSC with an USB-C/TB4 or USB4 Adapter/Station!
DP-ALT without DSC will be Limited to 4k@120hz 4:4:4 8-bit. 10-bit is not possible!
Theres also another things we have to know. Mac M1 can not use USB-C 3.2, they are Limited to 5-10Gbps.
support.apple.com
www.dpreview.com
pocketnow.com
9to5mac.com
Fallback to 5Gbps on all M1 Macs expect from Mac Studio front connections:
www.golem.de
I did read Mac Studios have different types of connections. the Front ones can do USB 3.2 with 10-20Gbps, so this will be enough for full DP Bandwidth.
I dont know if this also will be a Problem. When the Chips only get 5-10 Gbps on 2 Lines( 2,5-5Gbps per Line) so DP Alt is maxed out 10-20Gbps ?? Is this limitation the reason why we only get 4:2:0 or sometimes 4:2:2 !?
I dont understand why the Anker works with 4:4:4 4k 120hz 8-bit, but this is the best whe can get with DP-ALT without DSC ! So the Anker does it right with Cable Matters Custom Firmware for VMM7100 Chips (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-4k-120hz.2267035/post-31968090)
Can someone with Mac Studio M1 MAX and M1 Ultra test if it works better when u connect the Adapter on the 2 Front USB-C Connectors ?
Iam not a Pro so if @stevemr123 and @joev can Assist it will be perfect!
DP has a limitation of HBR3 width 32,4 Gbit/s with 4 Lanes, so it can do 4x8Gbps.
DisplayPort – Wikipedia
How DisplayPort Alt Mode is Enabled over a USB Type-C Cable
A USB Type-C cable connection can act as a USB host, USB device & as a DisplayPort video connection.
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Mac does not support DSC i think ?? So we need uncompressed Bandwidth to check. In my Case Mac does never use DSC with an USB-C/TB4 or USB4 Adapter/Station!
DP-ALT without DSC will be Limited to 4k@120hz 4:4:4 8-bit. 10-bit is not possible!
Theres also another things we have to know. Mac M1 can not use USB-C 3.2, they are Limited to 5-10Gbps.
Mac Studio (2022) - Technical Specifications – Apple Support (UK)
Tests show Thunderbolt ports on M1 Macs don't fully support USB 3.1 Gen 2 speeds
New test results from Howard Oakley of The Eclectic Light Company show that the Thunderbolt ports on M1 Macs don't take full advantage of the promised speeds of USB 3.1 Gen 2 devices.
This is how to get better USB-C speeds on M1 Mac (all models)
A new report published claims that M1 Macs don't truly support USB 3.1 Gen 2 and thus don't offer Thunderbolt 4 speeds. But there's a way you can get increased speed on M1 Macs. Here's how!
M1 Mac Thunderbolt 4 ports mostly don't support 10Gb/s speed - 9to5Mac
Pro users of M1 Macs have reported disappointing transfer speeds with external SSDs, and tests appear to show that most M1 Mac Thunderbolt 4.
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Fallback to 5Gbps on all M1 Macs expect from Mac Studio front connections:
Apple: Thunderbolt in M1-Macs unterstützt wohl keine 10 GBit/s - Golem.de
Thunderbolt-Ports sollten auch USB 3.2 Gen2 mit 10 GBit/s unterstützen. Laut einem Test ist das wohl bei M1-Macs nicht immer der Fall.
I did read Mac Studios have different types of connections. the Front ones can do USB 3.2 with 10-20Gbps, so this will be enough for full DP Bandwidth.
I dont know if this also will be a Problem. When the Chips only get 5-10 Gbps on 2 Lines( 2,5-5Gbps per Line) so DP Alt is maxed out 10-20Gbps ?? Is this limitation the reason why we only get 4:2:0 or sometimes 4:2:2 !?
I dont understand why the Anker works with 4:4:4 4k 120hz 8-bit, but this is the best whe can get with DP-ALT without DSC ! So the Anker does it right with Cable Matters Custom Firmware for VMM7100 Chips (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-4k-120hz.2267035/post-31968090)
Can someone with Mac Studio M1 MAX and M1 Ultra test if it works better when u connect the Adapter on the 2 Front USB-C Connectors ?
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Iam in contact with support about this. I think it can run better, this is a Firmware issuse.
Ok after Testing this Adapters and Stations/Docks:
Also with Custom Firmware 4:2:2 4k 120hzCable Matters 48Gbps 8K 60Hz USB C auf HDMI Kabel 1,8m für 4K 120Hz und HDR - kompatibel mit Thunderbolt 3, USB4 und Thunderbolt 4 Port - (maximale Auflösung auf jedem Mac beträgt 4K@60Hz)
Cable Matters 48Gbps USB-C-zu-HDMI-Kabel unterstützt 4K 120Hz und 8K 60Hz HDR - kompatibel mit Thunderbolt-3- und Thunderbolt-4-Port - 1,8 m - maximale Auflösung auf jedem Mac über diesen Adapter:...www.amazon.de
4:2:2 4k 120hzCable Matters 48Gbps USB C auf HDMI 2.1 Adapter (USB C HDMI Adapter) für 4K 120Hz und 8K 60Hz HDR - Thunderbolt 3, USB4, Thunderbolt 4 Port kompatibel-Maximale Auflösung auf jedem Mac beträgt 4K 60Hz
Cable Matters 48Gbps USB-C-zu-HDMI-Adapter-Kabel unterstützt 4K 120Hz und 8K 60Hz HDR - kompatibel mit Thunderbolt-3 und Thunderbolt-4-Port - 1,8m - maximale unterstützte Auflösung auf jedem Mac 4...www.amazon.de
4:2:2 4k 120hzCable Matters 48Gbps USB C auf HDMI 2.1 Adapter unterstützt 4K@120Hz/8K@60Hz (DSC erforderlich) HDR 100W PD, Mit Thunderbolt 4/3 kompatibel -Die maximale Auflösung auf jedem MacBook beträgt 4K@60Hz
Upgrade auf HDMI 2.1 oder zukunftssicher Ihr Setup mit dem Cable Matters USB-C-zu-HDMI-2.1-Adapter; HDMI-auf-USB-C-Adapter kombiniert den neuesten HDMI 2.1-Standard mit der Vielseitigkeit von USB-...www.amazon.de
4:2:2 4k 120hzSATECHI USB4 Multiport Adapter – USB-C PD Aufladen, Gigabit Ethernet, USB-C Daten, bis zu 8K HDMI – Für M2/ M1 MacBook Pro/Air, M2/ M1 iPad Pro/Air, M2 Mac Mini, iMac M1
Satechi ST-U4MA3M station d'accueil USB Type-C Griswww.amazon.de
4:4:4 4k 60hz
4:2:0 4k 120hz 8bcablecc Câble USB 4 USB-C Type-C vers HDMI 2.0 femelle 8K 60 Hz UHD 4K HDMI mâle
USB4 USB-C Typ-C-Quelle auf weibliches HDMI 2.0-Display 8K 60HZ UHD 4K HDMI-Monitorkabel Dies ist ein 8K-USB4-USB-C-Typ-C-zu-HDMI-Kabel. Unterstützt kein HDMI-zu-USB-C. Es ist nicht bidirektional....www.amazon.de
Limited to 60hz 4kClub3D CAC-1588 USB Gen2 Typ-C zu HDMI™ 8K60Hz oder 4K120Hz HDR10, DSC1.2, Power Delivery 3.0 Activ Adapter St./B.
Der Club 3D CAC- 1588 ist ein USB Typ-C auf HDMI™ (8K60Hz oder 4K120Hz) Adapter mit PD Charging. Der HDMI™ Port ermöglicht es Ihnen, einen HDMI™ Monitor anzuschließen, so dass Sie Videos auf einem...www.amazon.de
Limited to 4k 60hzClub 3D USB Gen2 Typ-C auf HDMI 4K120Hz HDR10 mit DSC 1.2 aktiver Adapter St./B. CAC-1586
Club3D Adapter USB 3.2 Typ C > HDMI 2.1 HDR10 4K120Hz aktiv retailwww.amazon.de
4:2:0 4k 60hzKabelDirekt – 8K USB C auf HDMI 2.1 Adapter Kabel für eSport-taugliche Leistung mit bruchfesten Metallsteckern – 1,8 m (überträgt 8K/60Hz und 4K/120Hz von Gaming-Laptops auf Fernseher oder Monitore)
KabelDirekt – 8K USB C auf HDMI 2.1 Adapter Kabel für eSport-taugliche Leistung mit bruchfesten Metallsteckern – 1,8 m (überträgt 8K/60Hz und 4K/120Hz von Gaming-Laptops auf Fernseher oder Monitore)www.amazon.de
Can select 120hz 4k but do not work correctly (Waiting for Support answer, hoping for an Firmware update)i-tec Thunderbolt 4 Dockingstation mit Stromversorgung 96W - 2X TB 4, 1x HDMI, 1x 2.5GLAN, 4X USB 3.1 Gen2, 1x SD, 1x Audio/Mik
I-TEC Thunderbolt 4 Dual Ekranas Docking Station PD 96W IT versionwww.amazon.de
4:4:4 4k 60hz
This is the best one:
With Custom Firmware, Thankful getting from Cable Matters Support!!! > 4k@120hz 4:4:4 8bAnker USB C auf HDMI Adapter (8K@60Hz oder 4K@144Hz), 518 USB-C Adapter (8K HDMI), USB C to HDMI, für MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Pixelbook, XPS und mehr
Anker USB C auf HDMI Adapter (8K@60Hz oder 4K@144Hz), 518 USB-C Adapter (8K HDMI), USB C to HDMI, für MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Pixelbook, XPS und mehrwww.amazon.de
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I does connect the Anker Adapter to the TB 4 iTEC Dock, it works perfekt. in 4:4:4 8b. Only a Cable connection now.
Dang you tested a lot! Just to confirm, the anker adapter only works with custom firmware and connected to the tb4 dock? Does it work just connecting to the Mac?
I does connect the Anker Adapter to the TB 4 iTEC Dock, it works perfek also in 4:4:4 8b 4k120hz too.
The Anker does also work when u connect it directly to your Mac! But I like the one cable solution
Great! Excited to try with my cable coming in tomorrowI does connect the Anker Adapter to the TB 4 iTEC Dock, it works perfek also in 4:4:4 8b 4k120hz too.
The Anker does also work when u connect it directly to your Mac! But I like the one cable solution
Thanks for all the testing @AironMan really appreciate it.
So in conclusion:
Best: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BG5BJ8SX?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&tag=macr05-21
Works in conjunciton with (provided FW is updated on the above adapter): https://www.amazon.de/dp/B09YYT8LF4?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&tag=macr05-21
So you just connect the Anker adapter to one of the TB4 ports on the i-tec dock?
So in conclusion:
Best: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BG5BJ8SX?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&tag=macr05-21
Works in conjunciton with (provided FW is updated on the above adapter): https://www.amazon.de/dp/B09YYT8LF4?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&tag=macr05-21
So you just connect the Anker adapter to one of the TB4 ports on the i-tec dock?
The Mac Studio with the M1 Ultra has two TB4 ports on the front instead of two USB 3.2 ports. So, you get the full 40 Gbps bandwidth from the front ports on the Studio w. M1 Ultra.
Which Anker product are you referring to?
Anker USB C auf HDMI Adapter (8K@60Hz oder 4K@144Hz), 518 USB-C Adapter (8K HDMI), USB C to HDMI, für MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Pixelbook, XPS und mehr
Anker USB C auf HDMI Adapter (8K@60Hz oder 4K@144Hz), 518 USB-C Adapter (8K HDMI), USB C to HDMI, für MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Pixelbook, XPS und mehr
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with custom Firmware it can do 4k@120hz 8:8:8 8bit
Yeah but I dont think this Adapters utilize TB4 DP-ALT they will let Apple Hardware think its an USB-C Device and then it will be limited to around 10-20 Gbps !
You're the Man, AironMan. Ordered the Anker from Amazon here for $50.
Applied your firmware file using my Lenovo Legion 7 laptop=PROFIT
No need for EDID or 3rd party apps, I've got 4:4:4 4K120. I did have to switch to 60/120 twice to get it to work at 444 though. Not sure why, but mad props to you.
Applied your firmware file using my Lenovo Legion 7 laptop=PROFIT
No need for EDID or 3rd party apps, I've got 4:4:4 4K120. I did have to switch to 60/120 twice to get it to work at 444 though. Not sure why, but mad props to you.
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So in the long run, I am considering the solution with the Anker dongle + itec dock, as I would also prefer a one-cable-does-all solution, but I am not about to spend another 250 EUR just yet (lol).
I am wondering if I can update the FW of my cable (https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B09MCXCWTQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details) to get the full RGB range out of it.
1. AironMan, where exactly can I see the chip used in my cable?
2. Could you hook me up with the exact flashing procedure once more?
Edit: weird, I don't see any info regarding my USB C - HDMI adapter... perhaps because I am already running a modified EDID?
I am wondering if I can update the FW of my cable (https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B09MCXCWTQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details) to get the full RGB range out of it.
1. AironMan, where exactly can I see the chip used in my cable?
2. Could you hook me up with the exact flashing procedure once more?
Edit: weird, I don't see any info regarding my USB C - HDMI adapter... perhaps because I am already running a modified EDID?
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Click on Thunderbolt/USB 4.
U can also only connect the Anker Adapter, u dont need the TB4 Station!
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