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Technotron

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Feb 11, 2023
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Yessss, got my CM adapter - WITH the right FW. All working now, thank you so much everyone. Will stay active in this thread and keep a close eye on everything. My 50 EUR Anker adapter is going back unopened.
 

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nandakke

macrumors newbie
May 27, 2016
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My M2 MBA (13.2.1) and CM cable (201362-A - VMM7100) does not output RGB 10B even at 4K60Hz, but YCBCR 4:4:4 8B to My LG C2.
I tried following tweaks.
I'm sorry for a little bit straying from the topic, but could anyone give me some advice?
 

DavesMac

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Jan 7, 2021
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Yessss, got my CM adapter - WITH the right FW. All working now, thank you so much everyone. Will stay active in this thread and keep a close eye on everything. My 50 EUR Anker adapter is going back unopened.

Is that with HDR on or off?
 

yukkerz

macrumors newbie
Jan 23, 2023
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Is anyone willing to help me maybe try to figure this out with my thunderbolt dock? It has hdmi 2.1. When I look in the system information I cannot see what chipset is being used. I looked under usb and thunderbolt. I have this dock and if someone is willing to help me possibly get 4k 120hz on my c1 I would be very grateful. I have tried editing the edid and got it to say dp upstream and downstream but still no 4k 120.
 
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Technotron

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Feb 11, 2023
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I am surely no expert, but I think flashing FW on a dock like that (with many, many different functionalities to take into consideration) is quite a different ballgame compared to flashing display cable... from my understanding, only the manufacturer could sort this out. Sorry I can't be of much help there...
 

Rozzemak

macrumors newbie
Jul 13, 2022
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Is anyone willing to help me maybe try to figure this out with my thunderbolt dock? It has hdmi 2.1. When I look in the system information I cannot see what chipset is being used. I looked under usb and thunderbolt. I have this dock and if someone is willing to help me possibly get 4k 120hz on my c1 I would be very grateful. I have tried editing the edid and got it to say dp upstream and downstream but still no 4k 120.
You can use one of the Thunderbolt 4 ports on your dock, and buy yourself one of the usb-c hdmi 2.1 adapters people use here. Same as if you would plug that usb-c adapter right into your mac.
 

AironMan

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Jan 29, 2021
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Is anyone willing to help me maybe try to figure this out with my thunderbolt dock? It has hdmi 2.1. When I look in the system information I cannot see what chipset is being used. I looked under usb and thunderbolt. I have this dock and if someone is willing to help me possibly get 4k 120hz on my c1 I would be very grateful. I have tried editing the edid and got it to say dp upstream and downstream but still no 4k 120.
I have the Same Dock, it does not work correctly. Iam in contact with them for an Firmwareupdate. But I dont think they will release something. U need and Adapter, u can connect the Adapter to one of the TB4 Port on the Back ! It works, I did the same.
 

Dochartaigh

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Feb 3, 2023
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I've had a similar experience where using displayport from mac causes hdr to have very undersaturated colours, but if i plug the hdmi in colours are correct, i've tested this from both my mac mini and my ipad pro with usb-c to dp and usb-c to usb-c, i also tested my ipad pro on my friend's hdr monitor with usb-c to dp, colours look off. At least for me, there is some kind of issue with hdr on mac/ipad when using displayport. Displayport picture from windows pc on the same monitors looked just fine and no different than if i used the hdmi ports. I know my samplesize is only two but this feels odd still.
I honestly don't even own a DisplayPort monitor in any shape... just know that for my issue I've spent dozens of hours on researching (and currently have a cast with Apple's senior engineer-whoevers I've taken coloriometer readings on video for and such), this route (USB-C to HDMI/whatever instead of HDMI to HDMI) helped many people... so going to give it a whirl. I DO also know for a fact that HDMI to HDMI also has this issue... so that's not a fix for me since I'm already using that now and the problem persists (on 8x TV's/monitors...)

...All I have to lose is having to do an Amazon return (that's IF the adapter I linked to will even work... which nobody here has replied about!).
 

geowars2

macrumors newbie
Oct 30, 2022
3
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Hey all,
Based on the previous posts it looks like this one is going to get me 120hz 4K with the custom firmware:

Is this the best option?

Since it's £50, is anyone aware of any cheaper alternatives that are using the same chip?

Thanks for all the info!
 

yukkerz

macrumors newbie
Jan 23, 2023
14
3
You can use one of the Thunderbolt 4 ports on your dock, and buy yourself one of the usb-c hdmi 2.1 adapters people use here. Same as if you would plug that usb-c adapter right into your mac.

I have the Same Dock, it does not work correctly. Iam in contact with them for an Firmwareupdate. But I dont think they will release something. U need and Adapter, u can connect the Adapter to one of the TB4 Port on the Back ! It works, I did the same.
Glad to hear you reached out. Hopefully they can help in some way but I guess I will just buy a cable and connect that to my dock. Thank you for the information.
 

yukkerz

macrumors newbie
Jan 23, 2023
14
3
I have the Same Dock, it does not work correctly. Iam in contact with them for an Firmwareupdate. But I dont think they will release something. U need and Adapter, u can connect the Adapter to one of the TB4 Port on the Back ! It works, I did the same.
Which cable would you recommend?
 

Djlild7hina

macrumors 6502a
Mar 28, 2009
754
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Hey all,
Based on the previous posts it looks like this one is going to get me 120hz 4K with the custom firmware:

Is this the best option?

Since it's £50, is anyone aware of any cheaper alternatives that are using the same chip?

Thanks for all the info!

The Anker should get you 4:4:4 8bit with custom firmware.

The cable matters with the VMM6100 will get you 4:4:4 RGB 10b. You can see this post
 

PatricioooAG

macrumors newbie
Jan 18, 2023
21
1
Comunidad Valenciana. España
Hi, I want offer my time and Mac mini M1, C2 and the CM bilbound ( can't see the version ), for search a possible solution to the users without Windows for update the adapter. I can't alone. I use Parallels (maybe help us). Thanks. 422 8b in HDR isn't the correct way.
 

AironMan

macrumors 6502a
Jan 29, 2021
617
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Hi, I want offer my time and Mac mini M1, C2 and the CM bilbound ( can't see the version ), for search a possible solution to the users without Windows for update the adapter. I can't alone. I use Parallels (maybe help us). Thanks. 422 8b in HDR isn't the correct way.
There is no other way. The update tool from synaptics is only made for Windows!
 
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nazarkokhan

macrumors newbie
Oct 25, 2022
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Omg, just enabled my 4k120 rgb on base m1 macbook air. thx you all. Also tried with displaymatter hdmi 2.1 to type c
mine has VMM7100 chip inside, updated it with custom one from this thread but it doesnt work, just get 4.2.0.

Two question left.
1. Should this cable with VMM7100 chip work as well? Mb I am doing something wrong? Took firmware files from post below, also attached it.

When i unplug and plug back my lg c2 tv i have to change settings back to 120hz. Just changed serial number from 1010101 to 1010100. Is it correct and the only solution for this problem?
Wow wow wow, I have nothing more to add other than to say a huge thank you for the massive effort from everyone involved! I've been lurking this thread ever since the M1 Pro/Max MBPs came out and I can't believe you guys actually did it! Another success here!

For others looking to replicate, I'm using Cable Matters ver 201388 USB-C to HDMI 2.1 48 GBps adapter + UGREEN HDMI 2.1 Certified Cable. Followed the advice on this thread, flashed the custom .fullrom provided by @AironMan here for VMM6100 chips (and here for VMM7100 chips) using the Cable Matters Firmware Tool (VmmDPTool.exe), and finally followed the custom EDID instructions according to the reddit thread. It will require BetterDisplay Pro, but the cost of the upgrade sure beats a new TV or monitor!

Side note: Both my work laptop (X1 Thinkpad) and my desktop failed to open the VmmDPTool due to "Cannot find Synaptics MST DP hub IC" error, this is with the adapter connected to the pc and HDMI to the monitor. Ended up using my Steam Deck with windows 11 and it worked. Worth trying a different PC if you encounter this.

My CX48 now shows:
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MacOS 13.2 now shows:
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Confirming that HDR is also working with 4:4:4 10Bit:
View attachment 2161301 View attachment 2161302

Been more than a year since I've been able to use MacOS with that buttery 120hz and the OLED tv, once again thank you guys for the hard work!
 

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AironMan

macrumors 6502a
Jan 29, 2021
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Omg, just enabled my 4k120 rgb on base m1 macbook air. thx you all. Also tried with displaymatter hdmi 2.1 to type c
mine has VMM7100 chip inside, updated it with custom one from this thread but it doesnt work, just get 4.2.0.

Two question left.
1. Should this cable with VMM7100 chip work as well? Mb I am doing something wrong? Took firmware files from post below, also attached it.

When i unplug and plug back my lg c2 tv i have to change settings back to 120hz. Just changed serial number from 1010101 to 1010100. Is it correct and the only solution for this problem?
 

YoYoMa

macrumors 6502
Aug 3, 2006
420
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Pretty sure billboard is 6100 with the cable matters adapter. The cable matters cable is the 7100
Oh wow, that'd be great news if so! Does anyone know how to at least see which firmware the adapter is currently running on a mac? I just got it so I'd hope it already has the latest. Although I should be careful what I wish for because I could only get 422 in it's current state
 

ChanandlerMurielBong

macrumors newbie
Feb 21, 2023
27
6
Guys, I knew you could make this possible! So many thanks to anyone involved indeed!

@AironMan One question (duplicate - but unanswered).

VMM6100 works 10bit
VMM7100 works 8bit

VMM6100 needs custom EDID every time you reconnect cable
VMM7100 has it embedded so it works out of the box.

You guys came THAT far.

Isn’t it possible to get the best out of 2 worlds?

10bit out of the box? Have you tried and you saw it wasn’t possible at all? Maybe we will get another patch version?

(Haven’t ordered mine yet , but since this is a lottery on what you receive, I have to know in which option to put my prays on) 😅

Ps. If you say wait, to see what happens I will definitely will! Is the research still on-going?

YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!
 

Djlild7hina

macrumors 6502a
Mar 28, 2009
754
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Guys, I knew you could make this possible! So many thanks to anyone involved indeed!

@AironMan One question (duplicate - but unanswered).

VMM6100 works 10bit
VMM7100 works 8bit

VMM6100 needs custom EDID every time you reconnect cable
VMM7100 has it embedded so it works out of the box.

You guys came THAT far.

Isn’t it possible to get the best out of 2 worlds?

10bit out of the box? Have you tried and you saw it wasn’t possible at all? Maybe we will get another patch version?

(Haven’t ordered mine yet , but since this is a lottery on what you receive, I have to know in which option to put my prays on) 😅

Ps. If you say wait, to see what happens I will definitely will! Is the research still on-going?

YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!

The Cable Matters adapter is VMM6100

while the Cable Matters Cable and Anker adapter are VMM7100.

The Cable Matters adapter is the best bet since it works 10bit when you flash the older firmware with Custom EDID.
Unfortunately there is no way to do 10bit out of the box yet but there is an option in BetterDisplay to auto apply the custom EDID when the display is connected :)

Just got my new Cable matters adapter and can confirm that RGB is working on my C9. Thanks everyone!!
That was the only reason why I would consider upgrading so glad I wont be tempted as much anymore 😂
 
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Technotron

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Feb 11, 2023
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Wait, so Cable Matters with VMM7100 also works full range RGB/4k/120Hz? That would be great news as it mitigates the chipset lottery when ordering
 

Djlild7hina

macrumors 6502a
Mar 28, 2009
754
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Wait, so Cable Matters with VMM7100 also works full range RGB/4k/120Hz? That would be great news as it mitigates the chipset lottery when ordering

Nah, only the Cable Matters Adapter works. I believe they all have VMM6100? Or has anyone bought one with the VMM7100? I've ordered two in this past week and they both had the VMM6100.


The Cable Matters Cable has the VMM7100
 
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