MP 1,1-5,1 Mac OS 11.3 has broken support for older Mac Pros

LucMac · Apr 20, 2021

norda72 said:
I have 2,5"-SSD on a OWC Mercury Accelsior 6-card. Can I install 11.3 without problems?

unfortunately not

eVasilis · Apr 20, 2021

11.3 RC is out. Not that it'll be any different...

HuRR · Apr 20, 2021

eVasilis said:
11.3 RC is out. Not that it'll be any different...

Has anyone tried it. I'm not optimistic.

startergo · Apr 20, 2021

Ok I don't think it is happening for me. 11.3 RC still panics. It may work for some. for instance HighPoint 7101A apparently works fine:

macOS 11 Big Sur on Unsupported Macs Thread

Updated cMP 3,1 in signature to final 11.3 release candidate without problems.

forums.macrumors.com

JohnD · Apr 20, 2021

startergo said:
Ok I don't think it is happening for me. 11.3 RC still panics. It may work for some. for instance HighPoint 7101A apparently works fine:

That person is using a 3,1 (2008) Mac Pro, with APFS-patched boot ROM, so very different from those of us running 5,1 machines.

VitaminK · Apr 20, 2021

still has issues, but does boot with all hardware supported

startergo · Apr 20, 2021

I have removed my PCIE expansion and connected the OWC Accelsior 4M2 directly to slot 2 and I removed the
Lycom DT-120 M.2 with Windows installed there because of this panic:

Code:

Panic(CPU 14, time 26554601674): NMIPI for spinlock acquisition timeout, spinlock: 0xffffff7f8c360650, spinlock owner: 0xffffff8752000260, current_thread: 0xffffff8752000260, spinlock_owner_cpu: 0xe
RAX: 0x0000000000000375, RBX: 0x0000000000000097, RCX: 0x0000000000000096, RDX: 0xffffff800a6890c8
RSP: 0xffffffa27e4f3120, RBP: 0xffffffa27e4f3160, RSI: 0x0000000000000000, RDI: 0xffffff800a6890c8
R8:  0x0000000000000000, R9:  0x0000000000000000, R10: 0xffffffa0e936e200, R11: 0x0000000000000000
R12: 0xffffff8752000260, R13: 0x0000000000000000, R14: 0x0000000000000000, R15: 0xffffff800a6890c8
RFL: 0x0000000000000297, RIP: 0xffffff80096a4522, CS:  0x0000000000000008, SS:  0x0000000000000010
Backtrace (CPU 14), Frame : Return Address
0xffffffa20e48cf80 : 0xffffff80097c467b mach_kernel : _interrupt + 0x12b
0xffffffa20e48cfd0 : 0xffffff8009632bdd mach_kernel : _hndl_allintrs + 0x11d
0xffffffa27e4f3160 : 0xffffff800978e1a5 mach_kernel : _console_write + 0xc5
0xffffffa27e4f31a0 : 0xffffff800978dc7a mach_kernel : _console_printbuf_putc + 0x6a
0xffffffa27e4f31c0 : 0xffffff80096a7f38 mach_kernel : ___doprnt + 0xf8
0xffffffa27e4f32b0 : 0xffffff80096a9547 mach_kernel : _printf + 0x157
0xffffffa27e4f3410 : 0xffffff80096a9445 mach_kernel : _printf + 0x55
0xffffffa27e4f3470 : 0xffffff7f8c30568f com.apple.filesystems.ntfs : ___ntfs_warning + 0xd4
0xffffffa27e4f34f0 : 0xffffff7f8c304e99 com.apple.filesystems.ntfs : _ntfs_boot_sector_is_valid + 0x47
0xffffffa27e4f3520 : 0xffffff7f8c2ffcc1 com.apple.filesystems.ntfs : _ntfs_mount + 0xb14
0xffffffa27e4f38a0 : 0xffffff80099265ef mach_kernel : _vnode_should_flush_after_write + 0x1a0f
0xffffffa27e4f3b00 : 0xffffff8009927e40 mach_kernel : ___mac_mount + 0x450
0xffffffa27e4f3f00 : 0xffffff80099279de mach_kernel : _mount + 0x4e
0xffffffa27e4f3f40 : 0xffffff8009d40dae mach_kernel : _unix_syscall64 + 0x2ce
0xffffffa27e4f3fa0 : 0xffffff80096331f6 mach_kernel : _hndl_unix_scall64 + 0x16
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
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Process name corresponding to current thread: mount_ntfs
Boot args: -v keepsyms=1 debug=0x144 no32exec=0 -no_compat_check -bsdmgroot

Mac OS version:
20E232

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 20.4.0: Fri Mar  5 01:14:14 PST 2021; root:xnu-7195.101.1~3/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: BB2FFEBA-7D53-301F-A238-9867CA51276F
KernelCache slide: 0x0000000009400000
KernelCache base:  0xffffff8009600000
Kernel slide:      0x0000000009410000
Kernel text base:  0xffffff8009610000
__HIB  text base: 0xffffff8009500000
System model name: MacPro5,1 (Mac-F221BEC8)
System shutdown begun: NO
Panic diags file available: NO (0xe00002bc)
Hibernation exit count: 0
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Process name correspo

I had 2 successful boots so far.

pure.wisdom · Apr 20, 2021

startergo said:

I have removed my PCIE expansion and connected the OWC Accelsior 4M2 directly to slot 2 and I removed the
Lycom DT-120 M.2 with Windows installed there because of this panic:

Code:

Panic(CPU 14, time 26554601674): NMIPI for spinlock acquisition timeout, spinlock: 0xffffff7f8c360650, spinlock owner: 0xffffff8752000260, current_thread: 0xffffff8752000260, spinlock_owner_cpu: 0xe
RAX: 0x0000000000000375, RBX: 0x0000000000000097, RCX: 0x0000000000000096, RDX: 0xffffff800a6890c8
RSP: 0xffffffa27e4f3120, RBP: 0xffffffa27e4f3160, RSI: 0x0000000000000000, RDI: 0xffffff800a6890c8
R8:  0x0000000000000000, R9:  0x0000000000000000, R10: 0xffffffa0e936e200, R11: 0x0000000000000000
R12: 0xffffff8752000260, R13: 0x0000000000000000, R14: 0x0000000000000000, R15: 0xffffff800a6890c8
RFL: 0x0000000000000297, RIP: 0xffffff80096a4522, CS:  0x0000000000000008, SS:  0x0000000000000010
Backtrace (CPU 14), Frame : Return Address
0xffffffa20e48cf80 : 0xffffff80097c467b mach_kernel : _interrupt + 0x12b
0xffffffa20e48cfd0 : 0xffffff8009632bdd mach_kernel : _hndl_allintrs + 0x11d
0xffffffa27e4f3160 : 0xffffff800978e1a5 mach_kernel : _console_write + 0xc5
0xffffffa27e4f31a0 : 0xffffff800978dc7a mach_kernel : _console_printbuf_putc + 0x6a
0xffffffa27e4f31c0 : 0xffffff80096a7f38 mach_kernel : ___doprnt + 0xf8
0xffffffa27e4f32b0 : 0xffffff80096a9547 mach_kernel : _printf + 0x157
0xffffffa27e4f3410 : 0xffffff80096a9445 mach_kernel : _printf + 0x55
0xffffffa27e4f3470 : 0xffffff7f8c30568f com.apple.filesystems.ntfs : ___ntfs_warning + 0xd4
0xffffffa27e4f34f0 : 0xffffff7f8c304e99 com.apple.filesystems.ntfs : _ntfs_boot_sector_is_valid + 0x47
0xffffffa27e4f3520 : 0xffffff7f8c2ffcc1 com.apple.filesystems.ntfs : _ntfs_mount + 0xb14
0xffffffa27e4f38a0 : 0xffffff80099265ef mach_kernel : _vnode_should_flush_after_write + 0x1a0f
0xffffffa27e4f3b00 : 0xffffff8009927e40 mach_kernel : ___mac_mount + 0x450
0xffffffa27e4f3f00 : 0xffffff80099279de mach_kernel : _mount + 0x4e
0xffffffa27e4f3f40 : 0xffffff8009d40dae mach_kernel : _unix_syscall64 + 0x2ce
0xffffffa27e4f3fa0 : 0xffffff80096331f6 mach_kernel : _hndl_unix_scall64 + 0x16
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
         com.apple.filesystems.ntfs(3.14.3)[F5FAB2EF-D733-34EA-BAD1-B55B74930462]com.apple.0xffffff7f8c2fe000-com.apple.driver.0xffffff7f8c35ffff

Process name corresponding to current thread: mount_ntfs
Boot args: -v keepsyms=1 debug=0x144 no32exec=0 -no_compat_check -bsdmgroot

Mac OS version:
20E232

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 20.4.0: Fri Mar  5 01:14:14 PST 2021; root:xnu-7195.101.1~3/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: BB2FFEBA-7D53-301F-A238-9867CA51276F
KernelCache slide: 0x0000000009400000
KernelCache base:  0xffffff8009600000
Kernel slide:      0x0000000009410000
Kernel text base:  0xffffff8009610000
__HIB  text base: 0xffffff8009500000
System model name: MacPro5,1 (Mac-F221BEC8)
System shutdown begun: NO
Panic diags file available: NO (0xe00002bc)
Hibernation exit count: 0
mp
_Skydspt_eemn tueprt(i)m et iimne dn-aonuots eocno ncdpsu:  02,7 5N6M2I4-2i0n8g36

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  Uptime  : 0x000000066ef9a9e9
  Sleep   : 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000
  Wake    : 0x0000000000000000 0x0000003a5beeec1c 0x0000000000000000
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Process name correspo

I had 2 successful boots so far.

HighPoint 7101A and Acellsior are compatible with 11.3 right?

startergo · Apr 20, 2021

pure.wisdom said:
HighPoint 7101A and Acellsior are compatible with 11.3 right?

At least on MacPro 3.1 HighPoint 7101A seems compatible.
On cMP5,1 Accelsior boots 3 out of 10 times maybe. Not very promising.

haralds · Apr 20, 2021

Anybody tried it with an Aquacomputer kryoM.2 evo PCIe 3.0 x4 adapter for M.2 NGFF PCIe SSD? Not sure what controller is in this.

TECK · Apr 20, 2021

startergo said:
for instance HighPoint 7101A apparently works fine

That is why I asked about Syba SI-PEX40129, I think they share the same chips.

VitaminK · Apr 20, 2021

Sonnet using the same chipset as Highpoints

KevinClark · Apr 21, 2021

Hello guys i m using an Highpoint 7101a1 with 1 Samsung pro 970 booting os Big sur 11.2.3 that means i could update to 11.3
I m using opencore 068 Martin Lo

KevinClark · Apr 21, 2021

My Mac is macpro 2010 5.1 12 cores 3.46 128 go ram rx 580 usb3card inatek

PeterHolbrook · Apr 21, 2021

Will 11.3 boot on a 5,1 with Titan-Ridge Thunderbolt?

VitaminK · Apr 21, 2021

PeterHolbrook said:
Will 11.3 boot on a 5,1 with Titan-Ridge Thunderbolt?

After a few panics, yes.

startergo · Apr 21, 2021

KevinClark said:
Hello guys i m using an Highpoint 7101a1 with 1 Samsung pro 970 booting os Big sur 11.2.3 that means i could update to 11.3
I m using opencore 068 Martin Lo

You can try, but before that do a backup to a time machine. Let us know if it works for you. Yo may remove the USB card temporarily.

KevinClark · Apr 21, 2021

I will try on an other NVME

PeterHolbrook · Apr 21, 2021

VitaminK said:
After a few panics, yes.

Would that also be the case in successive boots?

eVasilis · Apr 21, 2021

startergo said:
You can try, but before that do a backup to a time machine. Let us know if it works for you. Yo may remove the USB card temporarily.

I guess the panics are still present even with only a USB 3 card (inateck) in pcie card in slot 4?

eVasilis · Apr 21, 2021

1st beta of 11.4 out

VitaminK · Apr 21, 2021

11.4 isn’t working, NVMe assert failed. Like cannot even get it installed

startergo · Apr 21, 2021

VitaminK said:
11.4 isn’t working, NVMe assert failed. Like cannot even get it installed

Getting worst then. My guess is that 11.2.3 would be the last reliable one for the cMP5,1. At least for those with NVME drives.

VitaminK · Apr 21, 2021

Did an nvram reset were booting 11.4

startergo · Apr 21, 2021

VitaminK said:
Did an nvram reset were booting 11.4

How many successful boots?

MP 1,1-5,1 Mac OS 11.3 has broken support for older Mac Pros

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