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MP 1,1-5,1 Mac pro 2008 vs OS Sierra (Resolved)
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By the way, below you will find the video from the developer himself, how to install the patcher. I did this a full year ago on my beloved MacBook Pro 17’ and it works flawless. Highly recommended.
The procedure is the same with Mojave
Which is the bleeding edge GPU w/wo EFI for a Mac Pro 3,1 running El Cap?
I have no intention of updating my Mac Pro 3,1 beyond El Cap. With that in mind, and the power limitations of the 3,1, which is the most powerful GPU I can get today with EFI and without EFI? I need to be able to drive two screens at full HD which my Radeon 5870 is not able to do (the card...
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I went back to el capitan, I eliminated high sierra was a stretch in my opinion, el capitan is the right one for the mac pro 2008 and in my opinion it works better, I have a gtx 960 4gb and I connected 3 fullhd monitors and it works fine.
The GTX980 performs better than the gtx960 , so would be an improvement.
You could also consider a GTX1070 or a GTX1080 (TI) : they perform much better but i dont know how prices are at the moment.
I would compare the prices and performance of these models and decide what you need and how much you want to pay for it.
Naturally you could sell the GTX960 to decrease the costs.
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My best ElCapitan Mac Pro setup was with an Nvidia 980Ti from EVGA. This combo was absolutely amazing. This gpu felt as a vega 64 at that time. ElCapitan was that good that I skipped Sierra and High Sierra altogether at that time. The move to AMD GPUs was a step down for Apple but it was political motivated. Of course a 1080or a 1080Ti would be even better. It’s really up to you and the budget you have. The last official Apple Card from Nvidia was a Quadro K5000, but I don’t know much about it.
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Because of Bitcoin there is a world wide shortage on gpus right now. It’s not a good time to purchase gpus at the moment. Most of the cards that are mentioned above are weaker than what you have now. But you should be able to use 4.1 and 5.1 cards as well. The K5000 is the big exception of the rule, that does not need web drivers, because there was a Mac Edition available back then.
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Forgot that the GTX1070/1080 needs 10.12/10.13....
So the GTX980TI , as mentioned by @AlexMaximus , would be the most powerful GPU running El Capitan.
A curiosity, on my mac pro 2008 does the patch with mojave work well? I saw that it is around, but I wonder if it can work without problems, or if it requires a more modern 2010 mac pro, can anyone tell me something?
thank you.
thank you.
Hi Augustos,
I have some experience with the patch. Two years ago I have applied it on my trusty 2010 17' Macbook Pro and put Mojave on it. Since then, it runs and performs real great. Not a single problem.
About two weeks ago I have applied the patch a second time and put my MacPro 5.1 in my signature from Mojave up to very last Catalina version. So far it runs great, not a single problem again. They even improved the patch because there are more details now than it was years ago.
From that limited experience, I absolutely recommend the patch. Most likely you will very happy. Your current GPU might as well work great as well, so you may not need something else, but you need to check that. The guy in the youth spot below mentions it, only Nvidia works for your 3.1 so you should be fine on that end.
(See if you can watch the complete series on this)
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Thanks for your advice, I'm trying to make a montage with 3840x2160 25p files converted to proresHQ and I see that it works well, when I apply some effects maybe the rainbow colored wheel spins for a few seconds, but that's okay.
now I wonder I have a gtx9604gb MSI, a gtx 980 4gb would certainly be much higher and faster but it costs very expensive even if used, 300 euros minimum, there would be a GPU halfway that is faster than the 960 and less fast than the 980 but that costs about 200 euros? In this way I would have a more performing and faster GPU than the 960 without spending too much, thanks.
ps, i installed high sierra 10.13.6. why i need fcpx 10.4.6. with better performance and effects than FCPX 10.3.4. which works on el capitan.
now I wonder I have a gtx9604gb MSI, a gtx 980 4gb would certainly be much higher and faster but it costs very expensive even if used, 300 euros minimum, there would be a GPU halfway that is faster than the 960 and less fast than the 980 but that costs about 200 euros? In this way I would have a more performing and faster GPU than the 960 without spending too much, thanks.
ps, i installed high sierra 10.13.6. why i need fcpx 10.4.6. with better performance and effects than FCPX 10.3.4. which works on el capitan.
for example would this be better than my 960 4gb?
even if it only has 3gb? for 4k is it okay anyway?
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even if it only has 3gb? for 4k is it okay anyway?
High Sierra enables you to use that 1070 card. I think it would be a reasonable offer. Those cards are on a price level that will not decrease much faster anymore and will likely hold its value for years to come. Cryptocurrencies will stay around for a long time and will be the only hedge besides physical gold and silver in the upcoming global reset that’s about to happen. You will not loose much money with that card, thats for sure. That would be much better than the 780 you mentioned before. On the Ram side I think you can delay that decision after receiving the new NVIndia 1070. One step at a time.
I then reinstalled high sierra on the mac pro 2008, and fcpx 10.4.6. imported 3840x2160 25p clips converted to prores 422 hq, and it works fine without clicks or problems, I don't understand why the other time it gave me big problems, now I use 2 monitors before I used 3 monitors that is that the problem?
mah !!! however I was thinking, a friend of mine uses premiere pro cs6 with a gtx 780ti 3gb and works in 4k always converted to prores saying that he also works in multicam great.
well, i instead use a gtx960 4gb msi, and according to the benckmark below it is less than my friend's 780ti 3gb.
I then reinstalled high sierra on the mac pro 2008, and fcpx 10.4.6. imported 3840x2160 25p clips converted to prores 422 hq, and it works fine without clicks or problems, I don't understand why the other time it gave me big problems, now I use 2 monitors before I used 3 monitors that is that the problem?
mah !!! however I was thinking, a friend of mine uses premiere pro cs6 with a gtx 780ti 3gb and works in 4k always converted to prores saying that he also works in multicam great.
well, i instead use a gtx960 4gb msi, and according to the benckmark below it is less than my friend's 780ti 3gb.
as you can see the 780ti is 65% faster so a lot of difference from mine, but my curiosity is that mine has 4gb of vram while the 780ti has only 3 gb of vram!
does something change in your opinion? or and even if it has 1 gb less and the same more powerful than the 960?
the 1070 8gb on offer now no longer exists, the year sold and in any case it cost a lot while a gtx 780ti is also for 170 euros and it seems to me a good price for my mac pro 3.1, and I would have more power but the only doubt and the fact that it has 3gb instead of 4 like the 960.
thank you.
as you can see the 780ti is 65% faster so a lot of difference from mine, but my curiosity is that mine has 4gb of vram while the 780ti has only 3 gb of vram!
does something change in your opinion? or and even if it has 1 gb less and the same more powerful than the 960?
the 1070 8gb on offer now no longer exists, the year sold and in any case it cost a lot while a gtx 780ti is also for 170 euros and it seems to me a good price for my mac pro 3.1, and I would have more power but the only doubt and the fact that it has 3gb instead of 4 like the 960.
thank you.
mah !!! however I was thinking, a friend of mine uses premiere pro cs6 with a gtx 780ti 3gb and works in 4k always converted to prores saying that he also works in multicam great.
well, i instead use a gtx960 4gb msi, and according to the benckmark below it is less than my friend's 780ti 3gb.
I then reinstalled high sierra on the mac pro 2008, and fcpx 10.4.6. imported 3840x2160 25p clips converted to prores 422 hq, and it works fine without clicks or problems, I don't understand why the other time it gave me big problems, now I use 2 monitors before I used 3 monitors that is that the problem?
mah !!! however I was thinking, a friend of mine uses premiere pro cs6 with a gtx 780ti 3gb and works in 4k always converted to prores saying that he also works in multicam great.
well, i instead use a gtx960 4gb msi, and according to the benckmark below it is less than my friend's 780ti 3gb.
as you can see the 780ti is 65% faster so a lot of difference from mine, but my curiosity is that mine has 4gb of vram while the 780ti has only 3 gb of vram!
does something change in your opinion? or and even if it has 1 gb less and the same more powerful than the 960?
the 1070 8gb on offer now no longer exists, the year sold and in any case it cost a lot while a gtx 780ti is also for 170 euros and it seems to me a good price for my mac pro 3.1, and I would have more power but the only doubt and the fact that it has 3gb instead of 4 like the 960.
thank you.
as you can see the 780ti is 65% faster so a lot of difference from mine, but my curiosity is that mine has 4gb of vram while the 780ti has only 3 gb of vram!
does something change in your opinion? or and even if it has 1 gb less and the same more powerful than the 960?
the 1070 8gb on offer now no longer exists, the year sold and in any case it cost a lot while a gtx 780ti is also for 170 euros and it seems to me a good price for my mac pro 3.1, and I would have more power but the only doubt and the fact that it has 3gb instead of 4 like the 960.
thank you.
Hi Augustus,
To be honest with you, I did not pull up the numbers when you first mentioned the 960. Since I used to have a super speedy 980Ti for a very long time, I figured the 960 of yours would be kind of in the ball-park fast, - for sure below bit still ok. But the numbers really tell a complete different story. The 960 is a junker. There is really a massive difference here compared to the 780Ti. To put it in today’s perspective, the 780Ti is about on paar with today’s AMD RX 580. That means this card transports your Mac Pro into the year 2017/2018 From a GPU point of view. Compared to this, the current 960 really is a slow card that needs to be replaced no matter what. If you can grab a 780Ti for a reasonable price, get it. At this massive difference of 65%, the VRAM argument really does not come into play. 780Ti all the way.
I have seen now on the web there are also gtx 780s at lower prices than the gtx 780ti, and in any case the 780 is much faster than the 960, so do you think that even if I take a 780 it would still be a good deal? or would you recommend spending more and getting a 780ti?
thank you.
thank you.
Looking at eBay auctions and sales prices, there can be great deals that diminish the price difference. I would get the Ti, the small difference in price is absolutely worth it. For FCPx you want a strong GPU. Dont worry too much about the Vram. My own bottleneck was always the type of gpu and never really a lack of vram. VRAM was always more of a marketing thing than actual power. AMD back in the day was very weak at that time and they introduced a 7950 Mac Edition with 3GB VRAM. The white card looked nice but it was total slow. The VRAM upgrade to 3GB at that time did not make any difference. The upgrade to a faster Nvidia card was way more effective Than going from 1GB vram to 3GB vram.