So are you suggesting that everyone who says they don't have the noise is a liar?
Because that's frankly offensive.
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Mac studio v1 fan noise - it's going to be one of the loudest Macs at idle.
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Because that's frankly offensive.
They will never get it!! Might as well give up. Stopped screwing with it months ago!!
I just think that i would love to take a working machine to the reseller and show so i can get new one.
And, i know 3 persons who said that they dont have the noise and when i told what to listen for the also „found“ it.
By the way. Its chat. How can i be offensiv.
But you are welcome to send a soundsample of yours and i will check I can spot the noise
You won't because there isn't any. I can hear the whine on other videos posted, mine doesn't exhibit this whine.
Because you're insinuating that everyone who says their Mac Studio isn't telling the truth.
I think I'm done with this thread now.
Keep telling them, Bob. Perhaps it'll sink in one day
It will sink. we also found out that the environement plays a role. I will continue checking other machines. I found someone else who will receive about 30 machines soon and i will check them alsoYou won't because there isn't any. I can hear the whine on other videos posted, mine doesn't exhibit this whine.
Because you're insinuating that everyone who says their Mac Studio isn't telling the truth.
I think I'm done with this thread now.
Keep telling them, Bob. Perhaps it'll sink in one day
Can you explain how to use this to someone that knows nothing about GitHub and little about computers in general please? Do I need to download something to get this to work?
Those of us that have a studio with the noise feel the same when someone says the problem is overblown or non existent. When people make blanket statements, they're usually wrong. Both sides I might add. There's no way to know if all of them have it, nor is there a way to know they don't have it.
Mine is extremely minor and I have gotten used to it, but it's definitely there and there is a lot of them that have the problem.
GitHub is one (the biggest?) software repository. I wrote a small Swift script which can set the Mac Studio fan speed and hosted it there. Sorry, but if you have never used the Terminal app before, it is probably not for you.
You have to download a few files or clone the repository and then follow the README.md .
Fair enough, that definitely sounds above my pay grade. Maybe one of the fan control apps will figure out a way to do this at some point. Nice work though.
NOPE! NOT the bottom intake vent, but the rear exhaust vent. Looking at the picture above, I covered a 1-inch width portion of the left side.
I've had mine Ultra since the first day and it does not make any noise except for a very slight fan noise, certainly no high pitched whining noise, in all one of the quietest Mac's I have owned, and my hearing is just fine, I can hear the whine in all of the samples uploaded here, since the whine recorded and shared here, is usually at around 2 kHz 95% of population would be able to hear it, it's not like the whine is at 18 kHz.
I can't explain why you are hearing the whine with so many machines except that your's seems to be the outlier not the the more common experience so there must be something in the environment you are testing the Mac Studios that may be causing what you are experiencing, I don't think anyone here has experienced having the issue with anything close to the number of machines you have.
What makes it fishy to me is, as far as i know, no one ever got his machine replaced because of the noise. And i think apple would to admit the „fault“ and then others will try to exchange their‘s aswell. So i think apple prefers to not do anything
Yeah, I also got my Ultra the 1st day they appeared at the Apple Store and it has no whine 10 months later. I've put up spectrum plots showing there's no 2 kHz-ish whine at all. If all the Studio's had whine like some have (I don't doubt some do) Apple would be buried in returns and would have fixed the problem long ago. As a video product designer of many years I can tell you that the cause of something like that is easy to identify. It's either faulty fans, easy to identify, or a coil or ceramic cap (less likely) singing, which could be caused by a marginal power supply design (there have been at least 2 different power supply board designs found in both versions of the Studio, which is well documented) or a faulty batch of one of those components. But it has to be far down on their list of priorities if they haven't eliminated the cause by now.
Sort of funny story - I added an ancient HD-DVD player across the room in my super quiet Den last week, and a day later I suddenly heard a very, very faint whine. Of course my first thought was my Mac Studio had started to whine. But it turned out to be from a fan in the HD-DVD player that ran even when it just sat unused in standby mode. I had to keep it unplugged or that very faint whine would drive me crazy. So I do have empathy for anyone who has whine from their Studio.
As far as i checked , they , like me , got a replacement (they told me that i got a fan issue) and that replacement makes also a strange noise.
I spent some time interacting with Apple Engineering when, just like my first, my second Studio (it was a refurb) also had the whine. I had to negotiate with Apple for an extension of my return period, in order to provide all the data (including audio and spectrograms). In the end Engineering declared the whine “expected behaviour”, so I returned it.
That tells me:
1. The refurb process is not checking for, say a certain batch of known components that cause the fault, or checking for the noise and replacing fan assemblies.
2. Apple Engineering says the whine is “expected behaviour”. It is part and parcel of the M1 Studio cooling system. They will not treat it as a fault.
I think @mikeboss hits the nail on the head, and he’s had more experience than most here, with multiple units.
And, it’s all there in the very first post of this thread. The M1 Studio is, incontrovertibly, one of the loudest Macs at idle.
The OP also experienced and quantified a resonance at around 2.5Khz, aka “the Whine”
And for all the people who are are describing their M1 Studio as “silent”, can they explain how the M2 Mac Mini is 3 times more silent?
(ha ha, only joking – sort of).
Mac Studio
support.apple.com
Mac Mini
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Not to worry, the 1st gen M1 Studio is old news, if there is a 2nd gen, it will be interesting to compare.
In the meantime, I’m buying an M2 Pro Mini.
That tells me:
1. The refurb process is not checking for, say a certain batch of known components that cause the fault, or checking for the noise and replacing fan assemblies.
2. Apple Engineering says the whine is “expected behaviour”. It is part and parcel of the M1 Studio cooling system. They will not treat it as a fault.
I think @mikeboss hits the nail on the head, and he’s had more experience than most here, with multiple units.
And, it’s all there in the very first post of this thread. The M1 Studio is, incontrovertibly, one of the loudest Macs at idle.
The OP also experienced and quantified a resonance at around 2.5Khz, aka “the Whine”
And for all the people who are are describing their M1 Studio as “silent”, can they explain how the M2 Mac Mini is 3 times more silent?
(ha ha, only joking – sort of).
Mac Studio
Mac Studio (2022) - Technical Specifications - Apple Support
Mac mini (2023) - Tech Specs - Apple Support
Not to worry, the 1st gen M1 Studio is old news, if there is a 2nd gen, it will be interesting to compare.
In the meantime, I’m buying an M2 Pro Mini.
It’s astounding how arrogant some guys are in here. Just because you have an issue with your Mac Studio, all Mac Studios must have the same issue. When are you going to get it? NOT ALL MAC STUDIOS HAVE THE WHISTLE ISSUE.
I‘ve never doubted that some Mac Studios have noise issues, but I‘ll never assume that you‘re lying just because my Mac Studio is OK. My Mac Studio was in a professional sound studio and no whistle noise was picked up from it, at any frequencies. And before you say that I just cannot hear it, please understand the Mac Studio was literally in the studio for the reason that I wanted to check and see if I‘d reason to return it.
And, if you now call me a liar, I’ll report you, as this is turning into harassment.
There are PSUs from Delta and LiteOn and even a third factory.
They are completely different, some having more heat sinks, other caps, bigger components, other design.
This might be the reason some people hear whistle noise, others don't.
Maybe some Mac Studio (non whistle PSU) batches are only shipped in certain regions over a period of time?
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It doesn't sound like coil whine to me and I have experienced that on other things. It also is changed by fan speed and blocking the vent holes -- so it is not coil whine on my Mac Studio.
I think I may have found the problem. We have purchased about 50 of these over then past 6 months and 40 are in sound sensitive environments. The 40 we purchased from a third party, like B&H, are silent, nothing shows up in a spectrum scan. Of the 10 we purchased directly from Apple, most have a bit of noise and 3 of them are relegated to the office as the are not suited for the chamber. So if you want a silent unit, don't buy directly from Apple I don't think we've ever seen a noisy mini.
I don't think we've ever seen a noisy mini.This supports the hypothesis of (slightly) different hardware installed inside batch production.I think I may have found the problem. We have purchased about 50 of these over then past 6 months and 40 are in sound sensitive environments. The 40 we purchased from a third party, like B&H, are silent, nothing shows up in a spectrum scan. Of the 10 we purchased directly from Apple, most have a bit of noise and 3 of them are relegated to the office as the are not suited for the chamber. So if you want a silent unit, don't buy directly from Apple
Maybe B&H got silent lots from production date XY/2022 with PSU XY and Apple Store louder lots from date YZ/2022 with PSU YZ in stock?
Even if it's not coil whine it still can be triggered by the PSU (e.g. fan blade/chassis components resonance from different PWM amplitude/frequency of fan speed regulator).
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I do have apple care on mine and if i could find a way to know if there are different hardware versions flying around i could argue with the resellers. But , when the resellers tells me that „all mac studio are like this“ its not me , but them saying they all have that noise
maybe serial number can help „us“ here. I dont fight the user base here. Its just….resellers just saying „the machine works within its limits“ makes me question the whole thing. I mean, the reseller told me clearlx that he can here some „noise“ but he said its not very loud and is according to specifications.
I do have apple care on mine and if i could find a way to know if there are different hardware versions flying around i could argue with the resellers. But , when the resellers tells me that „all mac studio are like this“ its not me , but them saying they all have that noise
I agree 100%. To give credit where credit is due, my mini M1 is the silentest computer I have ever had. I love that thing
And for all the people who are are describing their M1 Studio as “silent”, can they explain how the M2 Mac Mini is 3 times more silent?
(ha ha, only joking – sort of).
Mac Studio
Mac MiniMac Studio (2022) - Technical Specifications - Apple Support
Mac mini (2023) - Tech Specs - Apple Support
In the meantime, I’m buying an M2 Pro Mini.
FYI. I've been looking for someone who has actually pushed their M2 Pro Mini and Dan Moren from Six Colors has chimed in and said his fan is virtually silent. The M2 Pro Mini has a larger heat sink so good to know it is doing something.
M2 Mac mini Review: Whatever you want it to be – Six Colors