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thatsmeonlyme

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Please don't be mean/sarcastic to the newbies. This is supposed to be a helpful channel, and even if they ask you a question they can answer themselves by going to the first post, it would be much better suited to tell them to go to the first post than to answer their question in such a sarcastic way.
Hi, my post wan‘t sarcastic but ironic and there is a very sharp difference between this meenings. On the other hand you are right with saying it is a helpful channel. But perhaps you should also see the posts of trifero, the post of ausdauersportler. I think least have a look through this forum having a search before asking should be possible for everyone. We all had to do this and everyone should do it too. But for my opinion it is good that this discussion is on the way, because I know i am not the only one thinking so.Doing as I recommended lifts up the quality of the forum. It means learning by doing, not only get feeded....
 

bige12

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I think alot people are wondering if Mac OS Big Sur would work on a Mid 2011 13 inch MacBook Air, since when Catalinia came out Catalina was not supported on that laptop, Since a Catalina patcher came out and its been working fine but the two features that are not working are hand off and air drop. I'm just curious if Mac OS Big Sur will work on a mid 2011 13 inch MacBook air since it already has a patcher version of Mac OS Catalina
 

Ausdauersportler

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I think alot people are wondering if Mac OS Big Sur would work on a Mid 2011 13 inch MacBook Air, since when Catalinia came out Catalina was not supported on that laptop, Since a Catalina patcher came out and its been working fine but the two features that are not working are hand off and air drop. I'm just curious if Mac OS Big Sur will work on a mid 2011 13 inch MacBook air since it already has a patcher version of Mac OS Catalina
Read the first post and search the thread for your particular system - so you can satisfy your curiosity and the one of all the unknown other "a lot" people you know.

Everything remains more in the "discovery status" - feel free to start your own explorations.
 

LuisN

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naylom11

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I am on macOS High Sierra and I heard there was a patcher for Catalina so I thought maybe there was one for Big Sur. I upgraded the graphics card as well because it did not perform.

I'd start with Catalina. Work through the issues of getting your graphics card to work properly (which will likely be you biggest hurdle being NVIDIA) ? >>> http://dosdude1.com/catalina/
This should get you going in the right direction.

I know you are new to this, but as stated before, Youtube and Google can help you through the process much more comprehensively. In terms of Big Sur, this is all still a work in progress with patching and Betas. So don't expect a polished patcher for the time being.

And to the other members of the forum, don't be an *******. Help where you can, and inform. Everyones new at some point
 

bige12

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I was just trying to say if Catalina was not supported on Mid 2011 13 inch MacBook air, Once that Catalina patcher came it Catalinia works on the mid 2011 13 inch MacBook Air, I kind of have a feeling once the Mac OS Big Sur patcher comes out i have a feeling Big Sur will work on a mid 2011 13 inch MacBook Air
 
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Ausdauersportler

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I was just trying to say if Catalina was not supported on Mid 2011 13 inch MacBook air, Once that Catalina patcher came it Catalinia works on the mid 2011 13 inch MacBook Air, I kind of have a feeling once the Mac OS Big Sur patcher comes out i have a feeling Big Sur will work on a mid 2011 13 inch MacBook Air
I understand your curiosity - this is a glass ball question. Take a look at post #1 one and read. Nobody can predict the future and if you know someone you promise to be able let him tell you the winning lottery numbers :)
 
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pyedog

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I kind of have a feeling once the Mac OS Big Sur patcher comes out i have a feeling Big Sur will work on a mid 2011 13 inch MacBook Air
It depends on your definition of "work".
To me (using a 2011 Mac Mini with the same "Sandy Bridge" generation cpu as you), the most significant problem is that we don't have metal capable graphics. If someone figures out a way to make HD3000 graphics work that would be great, but it currently doesn't seem likely. You can hope, but this is a pretty significant problem. Catalina still had OpenGL support, but Big Sur doesn't ... 2012 era Macs with "Ivy Bridge" cpus and HD4000 graphics may be the limit of what is reasonable performance with Big Sur ...
 

IbrahimFmc

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Finally after a lot of trying , I successfully installed patched Big Sur with working wifi but handoff , hotspot seem to be not w
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orking .
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EugW

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Thank you very much for your hint but that script is only for the situation when you have a not working eject command from keyboard. The keyboard command is working for me. that belongs not to the missing menu option in the menu bar where you can decide which drive you want to open if you have two for example
Until this is fixed:

EJECT opens the first drive
OPTION-EJECT opens the second drive.
 

justperry

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Sorry, but in the current state I believe that people unable to use the search button on the top of this page will not be able to use the current patchers. One should simply ignore such requests.

This is not an emergency room. No one asking here is in the real need to get help. But everybody willing to install Big Sur should bring - right now - in some technical abilities, which I cannot detect here in every case.

Of course you are free to offer a "spoon feed service" to help those people through this thread. Older Macs run fine with the latest version of Catalina. Where is exactly your "trillion dollar" argument gone?
I don‘t have anything to add


I've said it before in this thread, probably within the last few pages....

MR users on these kind of threads will gladly help people out, this has been the case before Apple got this big and owning Apple computers was still "kind of special".

I helped out a lot of people, I sometimes ask for help too, that's normal, we should embrace these people, not posting what you do here.

There are over 150 pages now, more than 3725 posts, do you really think it's that easy to find.
There is no answer in a single post, Macs and years of release differ, on some Macs it's fairly easy, on others it's very difficult.

I for one still didn't find a good answer on how to disable sealing and being able to mount a disk as R/W, some of the posters (Like me) are non native, I understand English perfectly, others don't and their posts can be confusing, this doesn't mean they aren't nice people, they try and I applaud that.

Edit: The search in MR suks big time, so there's that.
 

Ausdauersportler

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I've said it before in this thread, probably within the last few pages....

MR users on these kind of threads will gladly help people out, this has been the case before Apple got this big and owning Apple computers was still "kind of special".

I helped out a lot of people, I sometimes ask for help too, that's normal, we should embrace these people, not posting what you do here.

There are over 150 pages now, more than 3725 posts, do you really think it's that easy to find.
There is no answer in a single post, Macs and years of release differ, on some Macs it's fairly easy, on others it's very difficult.

I for one still didn't find a good answer on how to disable sealing and being able to mount a disk as R/W, some of the posters (Like me) are non native, I understand English perfectly, others don't and their posts can be confusing, this doesn't mean they aren't nice people, they try and I applaud that.

Edit: The search in MR suks big time, so there's that.
Yes, you are welcome to do this. When every person spends just a few seconds, minutes or hours into searching he could boost his own horizon. On the way to gather specific knowledge he passes more and more relevant and sometimes irrelevant information. Your way of feeding just another fact ends up in a situation where most people still cannot put this fact into the big puzzle because they are lacking constantly of the critical number of pieces on their own. And you did not make it bette, because people still not know how to properly learn.

This is not about helping people, this is about how adult people collect information and learn. I am not a natural language interface and search engine to this thread, you can happily act in this way if you believe. I am not the feeder of puzzle pieces, I believe in the brain every person has and could use to learn.

And again, learning is not simply collecting facts! It is building a big picture out of facts and methods and more... text books are made to help learning, docs are made to help, the first post ist made to help. Search engines are made to help searching facts. Use them! And learn to use them properly. I can live with the MR search function, better that scrolling through 3725 posts....
 
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justperry

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Yes, you are welcome to do this. When every person spends just a few seconds, minutes or hours into searching he could boost his own horizon. On the way to gather specific knowledge he passes more and more relevant and sometimes irrelevant information. Your way of feeding just another fact ends up in a situation where most people still cannot put this fact into the big puzzle because they are lacking constantly of the critical number of pieces on their own. And you did not make it bette, because people still not know how to properly learn.

This is not about helping people, this is about how adult people collect information and learn. I am not a natural language interface and search engine to this thread, you can happily act in this way if you believe. I am not the feeder of puzzle pieces, I believe in the brain every person has and could use to learn.

And again, learning is not simply collecting facts! It is building a big picture out of facts and methods and more... text books are made to help learning, docs are made to help, the first post ist made to help. Search engines are mad to help searching facts. Use them! And learn to use them porperly. I can live with the MR search function, better that scrolling through 3725 posts....

I do not disagree, it's just that I think it's unnecessary to post these here, just ignore them, this thread is not made to argue with each other over newbies asking for help, this thread is for installing Big Sur on unsupported Macs.

I leave it there.

Have a nice day/evening.
 

maxsp97

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Jul 23, 2019
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First big thanks and appreciated to all people created patchers for Big Sur to get the old macs running.

This thread for help out everyone and can we just help the newbie as same as others helped us out as we were newbie.

Can we add Barry K. Nathan / big-sur-micropatcher GitHub.com link to post #1?

That way every one can point newbie to post #1.

Peace brothers/sisters.
 

thatsmeonlyme

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It depends on your definition of "work".
To me (using a 2011 Mac Mini with the same "Sandy Bridge" generation cpu as you), the most significant problem is that we don't have metal capable graphics. If someone figures out a way to make HD3000 graphics work that would be great, but it currently doesn't seem likely. You can hope, but this is a pretty significant problem. Catalina still had OpenGL support, but Big Sur doesn't ... 2012 era Macs with "Ivy Bridge" cpus and HD4000 graphics may be the limit of what is reasonable performance with Big Sur ...
 
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thatsmeonlyme

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@bige12

You are right. There's a website which explains the changes and differences between MBP MBA and so on. The problem of only working with a frame buffer is, that this machine are extremely weak for anything as serious Movie-Foto development. Using such machine is possible for Internet and Office and then I had positive experiences with MBP 13" mid 2011 which is Sandy Bridge . Until DP4 this was working. It was impossible to get Airdrop or Handoff working although I changed parameters plist and at side of hardware the WIFI card.

My conclusion: It is a wonderful fully working MBP with Catalina. It is worth a try to run BigSur. I believe it remains Catalina
 
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