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Thanks for your reply. I was thinking of this one:


Still, as I am using OC and not OCLP is there a solution or is my original question for the pcie usb 3 card with a usb header valid?
if you simply move from OC to OCLP, You won't have to do anything to get BT/Wifi working in BS & Monterey.
 
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I successfuly installed Monterey RC2 on my 27 iMac 14,2 (late 2013). I used olcp 0.3.1n and was able to do the OTA updates. Since RC1 my Mac will hang as soon as it went into sleep. It only seems to appear over night. I disabled all energie features but overnight the system hangs next morning. If I press any key the monitor is black but gets a bit lighter. I have to reboot the hard way.

Any idea?

I looked through all posts but so far it seems I'm the only one having this problem... looking through the mails I again recognized how many real macOS wizzards are here doing a hell of great work and who patiently answer questions again and again. I just want to thank you!!
 
Thinking of doing this as I have a late 2014 iMac (5k). Am I correct in assuming that I can download an installer on a usb stick and download Monterrey to the stick and load this as required, retaining big sur on main hard drive ? I.e can go back to big sur for support in the future?
You cannot run Monterey (live) from an USB pen drive.

You can create an additional APFS container (no additional partition, just a volume) on your hard disk and install the upcoming Monterey in parallel (on your internal disk). Test it for some days or weeks, later you can decide to update your Big Sur.

Keep a working Big Sur time machine backup, the way back will need this (just in case).
 
You cannot run Monterey (live) from an USB pen drive.

You can create an additional APFS container (no additional partition, just a volume) on your hard disk and install the upcoming Monterey in parallel (on your internal disk). Test it for some days or weeks, later you can decide to update your Big Sur.

Keep a working Big Sur time machine backup, the way back will need this (just in case).
To add to that... from my experience: This machine runs Monterey since July. Even in beta no situation occurred, where downgrading to BigSur was necessary. But I understand there are certain Apps that maybe require different specs.
 
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My successes with OCLP and Monterey are as follows:

Late 2012 iMac 21.5" - Full Success. Resulted in a usable system. This system maxed at Catalina. I installed Big Sur with OCLP 0.2.5. With Big Sur, the system was fully functional. Upgrading to Monterey 12.0 Beta 10 was flawless. I upgraded the Big Sur EFI with OCPL 0.3.0 first. I upgraded the EFI boot, then I performed the Post-Install upgrade. Seeing that Big Sur was working fine, I then entered the Beta Testing, and then allowed the Apple Update services to perform the update. The update went through flawlessly. I performed the OCLP EFI update and Post-Install updates and ended up with a useable system. System upgraded: maximum CPU, 16 Gb memory, SSD and upgraded wifi to 2013 iMac AirCard/Bluetooth. (This system seems to run better with Monterey and Big Sur than with Catalina).

Mid 2012 MacBook Pro 13" - Full Success. Resulted in a useable system. The system maxed at Catalina. I installed Big Sur with OCLP 0.2.4, upgraded with 0.2.5. From this point, I used the same process with the 2012 iMac above. I am typing on this system now. Fully functional. The only problem so far is the startup screen graphic quality is rough. Once in, the graphic quality returns. System upgraded: 16 Gb faster speed 1600 MHz DDR3 memory and SSD.

Mid 2011 iMac 21.5" - Full success. I had Catalina (DosDude Patcher) on the machine and had been using it for quite a while. Recently, I installed Big Sur using OCLP 0.2.4 successfully (as per Mr. Macintosh's instructions) and continued using it successfully. Performance was equal to Catalina. I created a boot install flash drive with OCLP 0.3.0 to install Monterey. I first updated the EFI with OCLP 0.3.0 and upgraded the Post-Install files with OCLP 0.3.0 for Big Sur. Then I performed the macOS upgrade. The upgrade was flawless through the usb boot installer. The system was snappy even without the post-install updates. I performed the post-install updates. The result was a fully usable system with no noticeable flaws. Watch unlock, hand-off and other features work. This system was upgraded to max CPU, Nvidia 2Gb GPU, SSC, 20 Gb memory, ac Wifi card and 4.0 Bluetooth. The performance of this machine is similar to the 2012 iMac.

Mid 2007 iMac 20" - Good Success. I had been using Mojave (DosDude Patcher) on this system for a long time. I recently upgraded the OS to Catalina (DosDude Patcher) with success. I decided to test Big Sur. I had a lot of trouble installing. The install would automatically circle back to the Big Sur install window. I used OCLP 0.2.5. 0.2.4 stalled in during the initial install process - freezing at the KernelDebug stage. 0.2.5 got passed that point and finished the install. To get around the circle-back annoyance, once each step was complete, I had to turn off the machine and turn it back on, pressing the OPTION/ALT key and selecting the USB installer. The system would complete each step, then I would have to turn off and back on with the OPTION key. I had to continue this until I got a Big Sur HDD boot drive, which I then chose. The system started in Big Sur. At first, the performance was devastatingly slow. I had to be patient as I slowly went through each install window. (frustrating). But once in, I updated the EFI with OCLP 0.2.5 and performed the post-install updates. BOOM! The system was very usable. Hand-off, watch unlock and other features worked flawlessly. Only problem was the graphic transparency has problems. As you move the Mouse in transparent areas, the colors change. I fixed this by reducing transparency in Accessibility settings. Big Sur isn't perfect on the iMac 2007, but usable and in some ways better than Mojave. The process with Monterey/OCLP 0.3.0 was identical with similar performance. The justification for doing this is being able to use the most recent Apple iWorks software which is very functional with this configuration. This system was upgraded to its maximum CPU, 6 Gb memory, SSD and upgraded ac/Bluetooth 4.0 AirCard.
 
My successes with OCLP and Monterey are as follows:

Late 2012 iMac 21.5" - Full Success. Resulted in a usable system. This system maxed at Catalina. I installed Big Sur with OCLP 0.2.5. With Big Sur, the system was fully functional. Upgrading to Monterey 12.0 Beta 10 was flawless. I upgraded the Big Sur EFI with OCPL 0.3.0 first. I upgraded the EFI boot, then I performed the Post-Install upgrade. Seeing that Big Sur was working fine, I then entered the Beta Testing, and then allowed the Apple Update services to perform the update. The update went through flawlessly. I performed the OCLP EFI update and Post-Install updates and ended up with a useable system. System upgraded: maximum CPU, 16 Gb memory, SSD and upgraded wifi to 2013 iMac AirCard/Bluetooth. (This system seems to run better with Monterey and Big Sur than with Catalina).

Mid 2012 MacBook Pro 13" - Full Success. Resulted in a useable system. The system maxed at Catalina. I installed Big Sur with OCLP 0.2.4, upgraded with 0.2.5. From this point, I used the same process with the 2012 iMac above. I am typing on this system now. Fully functional. The only problem so far is the startup screen graphic quality is rough. Once in, the graphic quality returns. System upgraded: 16 Gb faster speed 1600 MHz DDR3 memory and SSD.

Mid 2011 iMac 21.5" - Full success. I had Catalina (DosDude Patcher) on the machine and had been using it for quite a while. Recently, I installed Big Sur using OCLP 0.2.4 successfully (as per Mr. Macintosh's instructions) and continued using it successfully. Performance was equal to Catalina. I created a boot install flash drive with OCLP 0.3.0 to install Monterey. I first updated the EFI with OCLP 0.3.0 and upgraded the Post-Install files with OCLP 0.3.0 for Big Sur. Then I performed the macOS upgrade. The upgrade was flawless through the usb boot installer. The system was snappy even without the post-install updates. I performed the post-install updates. The result was a fully usable system with no noticeable flaws. Watch unlock, hand-off and other features work. This system was upgraded to max CPU, Nvidia 2Gb GPU, SSC, 20 Gb memory, ac Wifi card and 4.0 Bluetooth. The performance of this machine is similar to the 2012 iMac.

Mid 2007 iMac 20" - Good Success. I had been using Mojave (DosDude Patcher) on this system for a long time. I recently upgraded the OS to Catalina (DosDude Patcher) with success. I decided to test Big Sur. I had a lot of trouble installing. The install would automatically circle back to the Big Sur install window. I used OCLP 0.2.5. 0.2.4 stalled in during the initial install process - freezing at the KernelDebug stage. 0.2.5 got passed that point and finished the install. To get around the circle-back annoyance, once each step was complete, I had to turn off the machine and turn it back on, pressing the OPTION/ALT key and selecting the USB installer. The system would complete each step, then I would have to turn off and back on with the OPTION key. I had to continue this until I got a Big Sur HDD boot drive, which I then chose. The system started in Big Sur. At first, the performance was devastatingly slow. I had to be patient as I slowly went through each install window. (frustrating). But once in, I updated the EFI with OCLP 0.2.5 and performed the post-install updates. BOOM! The system was very usable. Hand-off, watch unlock and other features worked flawlessly. Only problem was the graphic transparency has problems. As you move the Mouse in transparent areas, the colors change. I fixed this by reducing transparency in Accessibility settings. Big Sur isn't perfect on the iMac 2007, but usable and in some ways better than Mojave. The process with Monterey/OCLP 0.3.0 was identical with similar performance. The justification for doing this is being able to use the most recent Apple iWorks software which is very functional with this configuration. This system was upgraded to its maximum CPU, 6 Gb memory, SSD and upgraded ac/Bluetooth 4.0 AirCard.
man that was a lot of text but glad you got it all working.
Thanks for the details
 
What I didn’t say above, I’ve gotten a lot of help by people here (both from lurking and asking) and that help bore fruit. My successes was due to this site and you all have my gratitude. Just trying to give something back. :)
 
Hi everyone! I have been checking in on this thread every once in a while since the Monterey announcement and I was wondering if anyone knows if there is going to be a different patcher than OCLP available. Its not that I don't like OCLP but I was kind of still hoping for a new @dosdude1 patcher. (or something else that is similar to that)

The Mac I want to upgrade to Monterey is my Mac Pro 3,1 and for now the best option I think would be OCLP right?
Thanks to everyone who has been working so hard to make all these old machines last!
 
Hi everyone! I have been checking in on this thread every once in a while since the Monterey announcement and I was wondering if anyone knows if there is going to be a different patcher than OCLP available. Its not that I don't like OCLP but I was kind of still hoping for a new @dosdude1 patcher. (or something else that is similar to that)

The Mac I want to upgrade to Monterey is my Mac Pro 3,1 and for now the best option I think would be OCLP right?
Thanks to everyone who has been working so hard to make all these old machines last!
DosDude has been working on a GUI for OCLP. He said he will not be making any more patchers. OCLP is the way to go in my opinion. The information here that works well has been documented in Mr. Macintosh videos in YouTube.
 
Hi everyone! I have been checking in on this thread every once in a while since the Monterey announcement and I was wondering if anyone knows if there is going to be a different patcher than OCLP available. Its not that I don't like OCLP but I was kind of still hoping for a new @dosdude1 patcher. (or something else that is similar to that)

The Mac I want to upgrade to Monterey is my Mac Pro 3,1 and for now the best option I think would be OCLP right?
Thanks to everyone who has been working so hard to make all these old machines last!
I believe OCLP is by far a great if not perfect way to extend the life of our macs. I also have a macpro 3.1 always updated with oclp from catalina up to Monterey and so far no problem at least up to beta 10 with all the native updates downloaded and installed as on a supported mac. Honestly, I find it very effective
 
I can report relative success on a 3.06 GHz MacBook Pro 17" Mid 2009 (MacBookPro5,2) with macOS 12.0.1 Monterey installed via OCLP 0.3.1 nightly (thanks to @hvds for his great support on that): I've initially installed Monterey's latest beta via a OCLP TUI online 0.3.1 nightly-patched USB installer stick and then upgraded to macOS 12.0.1 Monterey via OTA update, followed by patching the system volume via OCLP to enable non-metal graphics acceleration and wi-fi.

Like in High Sierra and Mojave, my machine seems still quite well-supported. The only things not or not fully working I've come across:
  • Wi-Fi connections can't be established via the Wi-Fi finder bar icon, the drivers added by OCLP's system partition patch mechanism are detecting Wi-Fi networks' SSIDs, but no dialog for providing their passwords is displayed. To establish a Wi-Fi connection to a network for the first time, I've applied the workaround documented in OCLP's online ressources, i.e. entering the network's SSID and WPA2/3 password into the network pane of the macOS system preferences.
  • My keyboard layout seems to have been set to a PC layout, very common hotkeys like e.g. Alt+L for the "@" symbol are no longer functional (I really need to press Alt+Q for that now).
  • Instant GPU Switching / GPU Switching on the fly with gfxCardStatus 2.5 is not working yet, the OCLP 0.3.1 nightly I've downloaded today did not exchange Monterey's AppleMuxControl.kext version 6.4.9 for Sierra Security Update 2019-005's version 3.14.52 which re-enables the feature. Edit: I should mention that re-enabling Instant GPU Switching apparently disables brightness control (just tested under Mojave and confirmed for Monterey by @hvds), so this perhaps still needs a bit of refinement. - @khronokernel, could you perhaps re-open GitHub issues #514 or #584 to have a place for potential further analysis?
  • Activating FileVault 2 made the system unbootable which is perhaps the most significant drawback of these otherwise minor limitations for my daily work. I honestly was under the impression FileVault 2 would never be activatable on a Root Volume Patched System until I noticed OpenCore Legacy Patcher 0.2.5's release notes which list

    Allow Root Volume Patched Systems to use FileVault 2
    Requires macOS 11.3 (20E232) or newer


    as an added feature.

    Is that not yet supported on Monterey or did I somehow misunderstand these release notes?
Apart from that I have to say I'm really deeply impressed by what the OCLP developers and the MacRumors community have achieved in keeping these old Apple devices usable under a OS with an active security update supply.

In my opinion, if you're not a video editor, a gamer or heavily compiling large Xcode projects, machines like the MacBook Pro Mid 2009 or Mid 2012 series are still sufficient for most tasks of a person's daily (working) life. And contrary to Apple's unrepairable, glued, soldered and (thus) unsustainable product designs of today, they have the advantage of being really repairable designs as they use standard components (non-soldered, upgradeable RAM, 2,5" SATA SSDs and so on). I think we're all aware that a significant part of a computer lifecycle's CO2 foodprint is caused by its production, and using these machines from 2009/2012 as long as possible instead of prematurely transforming them into electronic waste is a service to the environment.

So, to cut a long story short, thank you, @khronokernel, @dhinakg and everybody who is contributing to this project - your work and your dedication are highly appreciated! ?
 
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DosDude has been working on a GUI for OCLP. He said he will not be making any more patchers. OCLP is the way to go in my opinion. The information here that works well has been documented in Mr. Macintosh videos in YouTube.
Thank you for the response! Yes, OCLP looks very promising and I am definitely going to use it to upgrade to Monterey when it releases later today. Also it is great to hear dosdude1 has also been working on this patcher!

I believe OCLP is by far a great if not perfect way to extend the life of our macs. I also have a macpro 3.1 always updated with oclp from catalina up to Monterey and so far no problem at least up to beta 10 with all the native updates downloaded and installed as on a supported mac. Honestly, I find it very effective
That is very good to hear, its going to be great to have a little more native feel when using my Mac Pro.
 
The first post of this thread should mention the issue with the 5K iMac 15,1 losing its native resolution. That's definitely going to be a deal-breaker for most people (including myself, thankfully I noticed it in the OCLP documentation before jumping in).
 
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Everything works flawlessly... except Airdrop. I can transfer data iPhone -> Mini but not iPhone <- Mini.
No biggie as this is an RC which may get ironed out with further development of Universal Control.

A huge thanks to @khronokernel / @dosdude1 / @dhinakg and the rest of the Dortania team for their work on OCLP!

Menubar Nerd section:

Hidden Bar.app
Podcastmenu.app (for Overcast.fm)
MEGA.io
Macs Fan Control.app

And a LOT of hidden icons in the collapsed section ?

Using the Amora icon set on the desktop and (hidden) Dock
 
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View attachment 1877793Everything works flawlessly... except Airdrop. I can transfer data iPhone -> Mini but not iPhone <- Mini.
No biggie as this is an RC which may get ironed out with further development of Universal Control.

A huge thanks to @khronokernel / @dosdude1 / @dhinakg and the rest of the Dortania team for their work on OCLP!

Menubar Nerd section:

Hidden Bar.app
Podcastmenu.app (for Overcast.fm)
MEGA.io
Macs Fan Control.app

And a LOT of hidden icons in the collapsed section ?

Using the Amora icon set on the desktop and (hidden) Dock

↑ That desktop looks quite nice, even without a notch. ;)
I’m curious, what did you use to get the rounded corners on the menu bar and the bottom corners?
 
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