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OCLP 0.6.2 includes a workaround for legacy metal (3802: Ivy/Haswell/Kepler) crashes on macOS 13.3. Be sure to download the latest OCLP release and build/install OC before updating, and then reapply root patches afterwards. Note, this workaround currently disables AMFI, which may break safe mode, and tccplus may be needed to grant permissions. As always, don't update without making a backup first.
I did consider but I actually quite like Mail. If nothing else works, I'll have to use Outlook as a stopgap until 13.3+ is cracked.
Hehe, I meant a century
, around the same time you started.😄
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A sad news…
I'm back to Ventura 13.2.1 and OCLP 0.6.3 Night Build (but also OCLP 0.6.2 build works fine with 13.2.1).
About PowerPoint, in fact, I also had problems with PPT for Winzozz in Parallels Desktop!…
PowerPoint 16.29 for Mac, on the other hand, works fine with Ventura 13.3 as this PPT version is independent of Metal graphics cards.
The various graphical problems, in fact, even with Preview.app, are caused by the bad management of Ventura 13.3 and Metal API with the unsupported Macs.
For example, disabling Metal in Parallels Desktop made PowerPoint work fine, but then I realized that Parallels go crazy if I re-enable Metal in Parallels.
In the end, in short, I gave up 13.3 and put Ventura 13.2.1 back waiting for the OCLP Staff will solve every problem.
Bye
I'm back to Ventura 13.2.1 and OCLP 0.6.3 Night Build (but also OCLP 0.6.2 build works fine with 13.2.1).
About PowerPoint, in fact, I also had problems with PPT for Winzozz in Parallels Desktop!…
PowerPoint 16.29 for Mac, on the other hand, works fine with Ventura 13.3 as this PPT version is independent of Metal graphics cards.
The various graphical problems, in fact, even with Preview.app, are caused by the bad management of Ventura 13.3 and Metal API with the unsupported Macs.
For example, disabling Metal in Parallels Desktop made PowerPoint work fine, but then I realized that Parallels go crazy if I re-enable Metal in Parallels.
In the end, in short, I gave up 13.3 and put Ventura 13.2.1 back waiting for the OCLP Staff will solve every problem.
Bye
Ahhh, this got me thinking of my relationship with Apple over the years ...
I learned BASIC on an Apple II and IMSAI 8080 in 1979. I was hoping to get a Mac in 1984 when they came out but IBM started shipping the PCjr that year which was colour and less expensive than the Mac. At the end of the summer of 1984, I had saved enough to afford the PCjr and so made the switch to the PC. I did some software development on the Lisa during the summer of 1985. The end of summer of 1985 marked the beginning of a long period away from using Apple computers.
Years go by and various PC computers and DIY home built computers with 286, 386, 486 and various Pentium processors. In 2002, I purchased some shares in Apple thinking "no way this company is going to go out of business" (incidentally, I thought the same thing about Nortel). In 2005, I was at Intel the day they announced their partnership with Apple. Coincidentally, the people at Intel were showing me their Blackberry and I saw a billboard for the iPod. At the time, I had no idea these products existed. The Intel announcement ultimately lead to my purchase of a MacBook Pro in 2006. It was an interesting decision at the time. I compared the specs and price of an IBM and Toshiba laptop with the MBP and a comparable IBM or Toshiba laptop at the time was more expensive than the MBP. So, I switched and I have been using Mac's continuously since.
The experience in 2006 also caused me to resist the temptation to sell my shares. In 2008 I purchased my first iPhone from my carrier, the 3G. The UI was not to my liking and remarkably, you could not copy and paste so I switched to Blackberry. Eventually, returned to the iPhone when the iPhone 5 was released and have been using the iPhone since.
A bit of lag but all works great. Never experienced any issue with graphics except some apps dont work as it requires metal and was very well pointed out by the OCLP developers. 👍
Parallels needs AMFI.
A future version of OCLP will hopefully re-enable AMFI. Until then I use UTM for virtualization.
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On my iMac Parallels Desktop 18 works natural fine with Ventura 13.3 although, due to the known Metal issues, Windows's PowerPoint also shows white thumbnails and slides and the slideshow doesn't work. Everything else, however, works.
THERE IS A METHOD proposed by Parallels Official Support, however, to get PowerPoint working in Parallels and I think the method works even if Parallels Desktop fails or malfunctions.
Look at my attached 2nd image and enter the command
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video.metal=0Anyway, I happily reverted to Ventura 13.2.1 as I need the Mac for work and I was tired of wasting time on it.
After all, only "Continuity Camera" doesn't works whereas all other Ventura's advanced functions work great, included "Live Text" and "Remove background" for images, thanks to the modification that I indicated and illustrated with screenshot in a previous post and that in my iMac (see it in my Signature) is not causing any conflicts or problems.
For some reason, Ventura 13.3 was a PAIN to try and install on my system. I did try quite a few ways to install, i.e wipe ssd, create new installer usb etc etc, normal standard stuff.
It would ALWAYS fail on the macOS update installer, towards the end of the OS install. No matter what I did, wouldn't make it past that part.
I went to my High Sierra drive and created the 13.4 Beta USB through the latest nightly of OCLP. First go it installed and booted just fine.
I guess in short, to me and some on this thread that I briefly read through, 13.3 may be the issue itself. I believe OCLP won't let you create a USB installer, unless it was compatible for your machine. You CAN bypass that in the prompt. But full compatibility doesn't give you the proceed at own risk prompt. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen it since Ventura was released for my machine.
I was trying to stay away from Betas, but this is what I got.
It would ALWAYS fail on the macOS update installer, towards the end of the OS install. No matter what I did, wouldn't make it past that part.
I went to my High Sierra drive and created the 13.4 Beta USB through the latest nightly of OCLP. First go it installed and booted just fine.
I guess in short, to me and some on this thread that I briefly read through, 13.3 may be the issue itself. I believe OCLP won't let you create a USB installer, unless it was compatible for your machine. You CAN bypass that in the prompt. But full compatibility doesn't give you the proceed at own risk prompt. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen it since Ventura was released for my machine.
I was trying to stay away from Betas, but this is what I got.
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Will OCLP 6.3 work on Ventura 13.3 with AMFI enabled? I think not - and I don't know if one can enable AMFI without enabling SIP.
I grew up with Apple computers through school the //e, //c, and IIGS, and then the Mac. I have low vision, so the Mac was the best solution for many years for me until the rest of the industry caught up with was built into the OS / features offered, etc. The other thing for many years was the Mac was the best for professional video, and graphics, photo, I think audio as well, etc. I also liked having the options to customize the OS in classic, and earlier versions of Mac OS X.
With the change of direction Apple has taken in the last several years, more so after Steve's passing, I feel they have taken away most everything from the mac that really made it unique to me, and why I'm considering changing platforms now, since many platforms offer accessibility features that would make them usable to me out of the box now.
The other thing is, I want to learn about and work with formats such as Blu-ray, 4K, HDR, etc that still seem to have limited support for on the Mac. I'm still pretty happy with Apple for a mobile platform phone, iPad, Apple TV, etc. So, these comments are mainly targeted to desktop computing, and related areas.
So, being in this position of my iMac being close to end of official support when Monterey support runs out has really caused me to start looking at other options. I could run Ubuntu Linux on this iMac and it would run very well, as I tested it for a while, but with that said, if I'm going to do that, why bother to stick with apple hardware. Like I've said before, this 27" iMac has been the best Mac I've owned in terms of a good balance of size and portability, not having to deal wit a separate display / monitor. I realize that if I change platforms, I'll probably have to anyway, but when it comes to a Mac, I really would prefer not to. I want more control over the hardware and software which is another reason I've considered changing. So, this has really been the first time, it's been tough to chose a new Mac to upgrade to, that I'd really be happy with.
I think so too.
These are the default settings after build and install OCLP 0.6.3n on my MBP11,1
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VMware Fusion Player 13.0.1 and Ventura 13.3 / OCLP 0.6.2 ... 0.6.3n
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I've got the same error on Ventura 13.2.1 OCLP 0.6.1 on VMware on a Mac Mini 2012
Now I've installed Debian on UTM
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I have an iMac 27 2013 ( 13,2 ) and everything works on 13.2.1
What I did was, first download OCLP 0.6.1 and install it, then create a USB installer with Ventura 13.2.1 and build and install open core in it. Important, backup everything you don't want to loose. Restart holding option key with USB Ventura installer attached, efi boot key, disk utility, erase your hard drive, then install Ventura.
After installation process is complete, flash OCLP 0.6.1 to your hard drive.
Run migrant assistant after OCLP 0.6.1 installation reboot.
That's how I solved my VMWare and Jump Desktop issues
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That is because of intel HD 4000, I have same problem with intel HD 4000, but when I switch to Nvidia 650M everything is fine. on MacBook 2012 15"
Hello,
Do yo know how to modifie OCLP to disable GPU graphic card to use integrate GPU only. The GPU is dead but not the integrate one.
I read
By far the simplest way, all you need to do is add the following boot-arg:
-wegnoegpu
but I don't how to do this
Do yo know how to modifie OCLP to disable GPU graphic card to use integrate GPU only. The GPU is dead but not the integrate one.
I read
By far the simplest way, all you need to do is add the following boot-arg:
-wegnoegpu
but I don't how to do this
@Bmld, -wegnoegpu is a boot argument for WhateverGreen.kext. If your Open Core EFI includes WhateverGreen.kext, then adding the boot-arg is as simple as adding -wegnoegpu to the existing list of boot-args in your Open Core config.plist:
If your Open Core EFI does not include WhateverGreen.kext, then you'll need to add the kext to your EFI/OC/Kexts folder and inject WhateverGreen.kext via your Open Core config.plist:
If I'm speaking a strange language to you, then this will be a good learning experience.
If your Open Core EFI does not include WhateverGreen.kext, then you'll need to add the kext to your EFI/OC/Kexts folder and inject WhateverGreen.kext via your Open Core config.plist:
If I'm speaking a strange language to you, then this will be a good learning experience.
You can find Ventura 13.2.1 via OCLP - selecting 'more options' when you're building an USB installer.