macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[olad]

stuck on apple boot logo after updating to 0.6.7 this morning and running post install root patch. have tried booting into safe mode (still stuck) running first aid via disk utility, and all other fixes not related to command line (terminal).

any thoughts or should I nuke and recovery wipe this back to stock?

This MAY work... Create on a USB OCLP 0.6.6 (or the one that worked last), restart, use the option command to choose OCLP 0.6.6 (on the USB), and let your main SSD take over - bypassing the OCLP 0.6.7 on the SSD. I think the developers of OCLP don't realise how fantastic and useful this ability is. It makes recovery agony a thing of the past - for me, at least.

 

[Rastlin]

I updated to MacOS Ventura 13.2.1 with the OCLP nightly 0.6.2n on a 2012 MacBook Air 11", i.e., MacBookAir,5.2. The key was to hold option key on every reboot to boot info OCLP EFI every time before choosing the MacOS install.

Everything seems to work fine so far. Previously this MacBook was on Catalina and the icloud support was buggy. Now it seems fine.

May i know approximately how long does the whole process took you? I am trying to install Ventura into the same machine and the process was stuck & the apple for 2 hours without any movement.

Possible to share your upgrading process?

 

[Eriamjh1138@DAN]

With the announcement of Sonoma, all of this will become moot with a new thread for OCLP for Sonoma!
Let the new thread begin!

 

[roysterdoyster]

This MAY work... Create on a USB OCLP 0.6.6 (or the one that worked last), restart, use the option command to choose OCLP 0.6.6 (on the USB), and let your main SSD take over - bypassing the OCLP 0.6.7 on the SSD. I think the developers of OCLP don't realise how fantastic and useful this ability is. It makes recovery agony a thing of the past - for me, at least.

This is how I was able to recover from a 13.4 update disaster. I will stick with 13.3.1 and OCLP 0.6.5 for installation, and after that with OCLP 0.6.7 release, until macOS 14 is available for installation via OCLP.

 

[Tockman]

With the announcement of Sonoma, all of this will become moot with a new thread for OCLP for Sonoma!
Let the new thread begin!

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-14-sonoma-on-unsupported-macs-thread.2391630/page-1

 

[TimmuJapan]

Also, does it matter if I reset NVRAM before I wipe the through in Recovery, or does it have to be after?

I would perform the steps in the exact order that I mentioned above. People with more knowledge than me will be able to answer this better, and if I’m mistaken someone please correct me, but per my knowledge, the opencore boot loader injects things into system memory instead of on disk.

“….OpenCore is a sophisticated boot loader used to inject and patch data in memory, instead of on disk…..”

So even if you wipe the drive, there still may be data left over that could interfere with a new native installation, so better to reset the NVRAM to clear that out after wiping the drive….. so I would go 123 like I mentioned above.

If downloading and installing Catalina from Internet recovery works for you, I guess you can do it that way, but a USB boot drive is a safe and sure thing to have on hand if you need to install macOS.

 

[raziel101]

I would perform the steps in the exact order that I mentioned above. People with more knowledge than me will be able to answer this better, and if I’m mistaken someone please correct me, but per my knowledge, the opencore boot loader injects things into system memory instead of on disk.

“….OpenCore is a sophisticated boot loader used to inject and patch data in memory, instead of on disk…..”

So even if you wipe the drive, there still may be data left over that could interfere with a new native installation, so better to reset the NVRAM to clear that out after wiping the drive….. so I would go 123 like I mentioned above.

If downloading and installing Catalina from Internet recovery works for you, I guess you can do it that way, but a USB boot drive is a safe and sure thing to have on hand if you need to install macOS.

Thank you for the clarification. I will work in the order you specified!

I launched Internet Recovery this morning and it only shows the options to download Ventura so I will go with your suggestion and download Catalina from the App Store and create a Catalina Installer on a USB drive.

 

[seninha]

My 2011 IMac is running Ventura, and runs great.
only thing that i am missing is the feature to stream music from my Mac to my Denon receiver.

When running High Sierra , when ever I started You Tube Music i was able to stream to my Denon receiver.
This function is no longer available.

Only when using the Apple Music app then I can choose between internal speakers or my receiver (which is able to use apply air play)

Have no idea if this function is no longer available since High Sierra or is this a Open Core Legacy problem?

 

[raziel101]

I would perform the steps in the exact order that I mentioned above. People with more knowledge than me will be able to answer this better, and if I’m mistaken someone please correct me, but per my knowledge, the opencore boot loader injects things into system memory instead of on disk.

“….OpenCore is a sophisticated boot loader used to inject and patch data in memory, instead of on disk…..”

So even if you wipe the drive, there still may be data left over that could interfere with a new native installation, so better to reset the NVRAM to clear that out after wiping the drive….. so I would go 123 like I mentioned above.

If downloading and installing Catalina from Internet recovery works for you, I guess you can do it that way, but a USB boot drive is a safe and sure thing to have on hand if you need to install macOS.

So I've hit a snag...

I downloaded the Catalina installer and installed it onto a USB drive using Terminal.

Restarted my iMac and help down the option key

I see Macintish HD, Install Mac OS Catalina and and EFI Boot

I selected Install Mac OS Catalina and then went into Disk Utility

I selected my Internal SSD, clicked erase, updated the name and selected APFS as the format type, but when I click Erase, nothing happens - previously when I reinstalled my Mac last month, the drive would be erased at this point.

The same behaviour occurs if I select the container disk.

 

[TimmuJapan]

So I've hit a snag...

I downloaded the Catalina installer and installed it onto a USB drive using Terminal.

Restarted my iMac and help down the option key

I see Macintish HD, Install Mac OS Catalina and and EFI Boot

I selected Install Mac OS Catalina and then went into Disk Utility

I selected my Internal SSD, clicked erase, updated the name and selected APFS as the format type, but when I click Erase, nothing happens - previously when I reinstalled my Mac last month, the drive would be erased at this point.

The same behaviour occurs if I select the container disk.

Use your OCLP Ventura install usb (or the Ventura recovery partition) to erase the drive, then reset the NVRAM, and then install catalina.

Lower versions of macOS that are Apple supported (in your case Catalina) sometimes do not know what they are looking at when they try to interact with an officially unsupported, more modern macOS (in your case Ventura) via OCLP.

Your system is looking at the Ventura partition through the lense of a Catalina recovery environment, and that Catalina recovery environment / system is scratching its head, thinking “what the heck is that? Ventura? That isn’t even supposed to be here…. it is also more advanced than us….. we have no power here…..”

 

[PropClear]

KDK_13.4_22F66.pkg just dropped ;-) works like a charm with newest 0.6.8 nightly on MP5,1 | RX580 | 990 Pro NVMe - big hug to the Dev - Team ;-)

 

[alfon_sico]

I read that to late ... now I'm stuck halfway booting.
Had fixed everything so it was working ... but then I got that much smarter.

Any way to turn it back off from recovery?
Or do I have to make a network reinstall of Sierra and then start over?

Do you know if mediaanalysisd is working in 13.4 with AMFI enabled and OCPL 0.6.7 amfi beta 2
It looks like when I enter a person and force searching more faces stay infinitum looking for screen and only end if you push the button "Accept"
I import new photos with persons but it seems that stop seeking and never detect more face one week later

 

[raziel101]

Use your OCLP Ventura install usb (or the Ventura recovery partition) to erase the drive, then reset the NVRAM, and then install catalina.

With OCLP, lower versions of macOS that are supported (in your case Catalina) sometimes do not know what they are looking at when they try to interact with an officially unsupported, more modern macOS (in your case Ventura) via OCLP.

In your case, your system is looking at the Ventura partition through the lense of a Catalina recovery environment, and that Catalina recovery environment / system is scratching its head, thinking “what the heck is that? Ventura? That isn’t even supposed to be here…. it is also more advanced than us….. we have no power here…..”

@TimmuJapan - thank you so much for your help. I'm back to Catalina

I assume the NVRAM reset worked - I heard a chime twice along with a few restart screens (holding down the required keys for 20 seconds) and had no errors during the Catalina installation. Is there a way to manually check if all OCLP files have been removed? Or is it safe to say they are all wiped out?

 

[makra]

@TimmuJapan - thank you so much for your help. I'm back to Catalina

I assume the NVRAM reset worked - I heard a chime twice along with a few restart screens (holding down the required keys for 20 seconds) and had no errors during the Catalina installation. Is there a way to manually check if all OCLP files have been removed? Or is it safe to say they are all wiped out?

Uninstall | OpenCore Legacy Patcher

 

[Pri-est]

Hi all,
I've got a Mac Pro 5,1, Vega 56 graphic card that drive 3 4k monitors.

On this configuration the post install patches for OCLP only work if I use 0.6.1; 0.6.2 to 0.6.4 don't seem to install the post patches correctly for the graphic card; I get the solid background dock, very sluggish behaviour and only two of the 3 monitors fire up - all signs the graphic card drivers are not as they should be.

I'm keen to get to a newer version of OCLP for video playback issues etc.

Has anyone else had this issue?

Confirm - CMP 4.1 (flashed to 5.1) with Vega56 works only with 0.6.0/0.6.1 rootpatch, all from 0.6.2 to 0.6.7 don't activate graphics acceleration(patched successfully, but after reboot still not works).
Vega56 - still unsupported GPU for macOS 13.

 

[drazen.boat]

Hi!
I use a MacBook pro Mid 2012 (Model 10.1). I had Ventura 13.3 and OpenCore Legacy Patcher 0.65 installed and everything worked great. From the beginning, I was at Monterey for unsupported Macs and they regularly updated to Version Ventura 13.3. I didn't read the news related to Ventura 13.4 and now I have a problem and stuck with the patch on Graphics: Nvidia Kepler and Intel Ivy Bridge. The graphics are horrendously slow because it apparently doesn't use an accelerator. Any advice on how I can fix the problem. Thanks in advance

 

[olad]

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[zfrogman]

Safe Boot login issue: no login with Safe Mode hangs; Normal boot fine

Hello All,
I have been using successfully and efficiently OLCP 0.6.7 with Ventura 10.13.4 install. However I am unable to login with safe mode. Do a NVRAM and SMC reset and tried Safe Mode via Recovery; Impossible safe mode login. Safe Boot hangs @ 50% progress bar. What am I missing? Any ideas? Thanks.

 

[houser]

Have seen this. Installing the relevant OS again from USB fixed it for me. FWIW.

> Impossible safe mode login. Safe Boot hangs @ 50% progress bar. What am I missing? Any ideas? Thanks.

Have seen this. Installing the same relevant OS again from USB fixed it for me. FWIW.

 

[zfrogman]

Have seen this. Installing the relevant OS again from USB fixed it for me. FWIW.

Have seen this. Installing the same relevant OS again from USB fixed it for me. FWIW.

Hello Howser,
Thanks for your reply I had tried this back with 10.13.3 with no result. Doesn't hurt to try again possible with another USB stick; never know. Will keep you posted. Best.

 

[davidlv]

Hi!
I use a MacBook pro Mid 2012 (Model 10.1). I had Ventura 13.3 and OpenCore Legacy Patcher 0.65 installed and everything worked great. From the beginning, I was at Monterey for unsupported Macs and they regularly updated to Version Ventura 13.3. I didn't read the news related to Ventura 13.4 and now I have a problem and stuck with the patch on Graphics: Nvidia Kepler and Intel Ivy Bridge. The graphics are horrendously slow because it apparently doesn't use an accelerator. Any advice on how I can fix the problem. Thanks in advance

Have you tried using OCLP 0.6.7 or even 0.6.8n? The devs have made quite a lot of progress recently. Worth a try anyway.

 

[drazen.boat]

Have you tried using OCLP 0.6.7 or even 0.6.8n? The devs have made quite a lot of progress recently. Worth a try anyway.

Hi, yes I have try with OCLP 0.67 but problem is still here. Not try with 0.68. Is it officially available for download?

 

[PropClear]

Hi, yes I have try with OCLP 0.67 but problem is still here. Not try with 0.68. Is it officially available for download?

Give google a try - "oclp nightly source.md main" may helps...

 

[Sanmiguel71]

If you have any related crash logs, that could help understand what's happening.

Hi educovas,

back from holidays... Here my google Chrom debug log. Genereated by

/Applications/Google\ Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google\ Chrome --enable-logging --v=1

If you need any more information, don't hesitate.

iMac 17,1, AMD R9 M395, OCLP 0.6.7 AMFIpass b2, 13.4

 

[webg3]

Does anyone know if the developers ended up integrating kryptonite into olcp for thunderbolt 1 and 2 egpu support the developer had posted that he was no longer maintaining and had encouraged the devs to add it natively in olcp just curious…. Using krptonite on Monterey but it’s no longer compatible under Ventura…with the cpu issues fixed on the 6,1 Mac Pro I’d like to bump it up but that’s the only snag….

I am also curious to know if we managed to run kryptonite in OCLP 0.6.7 , I am in OCLP AMFIPass2, and I tried to do the procedure via Terminal, for automatic implementation in my EFI, it was in boot looping, I went back to EFI backup (USB) and corrected without kryptonite, I'll try a manual implementation.