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Anyone else have these graphics issues with Xcode when using a Mac that's using OCLP? I have reinstalled Xcode, updated to latest OCLP etc. Not a huge deal as it's on an older machine I use when I'm away, but would be nice if there was a known fix.
I find that if I stick to iOS 15.3 or lower, I don't have any issues. Also, the WatchOS sim doesn't have this issue.
I guess Xcode with iOS 15.4 and up doesn't play well with x86 even with OCLP?
This particular machine is a 11,3 2014 MBP with OCLP 0.6.6 + Ventura 13.4.
I haven't had any issues at all except for this one Xcode iOS sim bug.
I find that if I stick to iOS 15.3 or lower, I don't have any issues. Also, the WatchOS sim doesn't have this issue.
I guess Xcode with iOS 15.4 and up doesn't play well with x86 even with OCLP?
This particular machine is a 11,3 2014 MBP with OCLP 0.6.6 + Ventura 13.4.
I haven't had any issues at all except for this one Xcode iOS sim bug.
AMFIPass beta 3 has been released. For changelogs and the download, please see the GitHub link. Installation instructions have been updated.
It states that it might not work well with macOS 13.2 or below, but didn't 13.3 onward broke the compatibility ?
Unbrick it. You are a student after all.I bricked it
Honestly, if you’re a student and you have limited resources don’t. Just don’t. Leave it to the professionals
Thanks for pointing me to this workaround, that did the trick also on my MBP4,1.
I agree that 13.2.1 is the most stable on our particular machine, but this is not reason enough in my view to stay on that release given that there have been circa 100 security fixes in the subsequent releases, including the RSR in 13.3.1.
Personally I have reverted to an up to date and very stable Monterey for daily use and have a Ventura 13.4 installation on a separate SSD which I can test with the various iterations of OCLP as they become available. I have yet to test the latest beta of AMFI pass.
There was nothing in Ventura apart from some cosmetic upgrades that made it a compelling update as far as I was concerned.
13.2.1 works for some machines, it might not work for all
it's "almost" unbelievable!!! with the nightly version 2.6.8 (of June 15th) now the bluethoot started working correctly again like up to 7-8 days ... I manually injected the kext BlueToolFixup.kext v2.6.8, reset NVRAM and restarted the mac.. I had almost resigned myself to the idea of buying an external USB module and then enabling it as if it were internal with a certain terminal command, I had already identified it.... THANKS
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HD FaceTime camera IS working with Facetime, so not an aiisue with Monterey
SORRY!
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Dear,
long term OCLP user, today I updated to Ventura 13.4 on my iMAC 27 Mid 2011 after having passed Big Sure and Monterey successfully.
Everything is working fine except:
Fotocamera HD FaceTime (integrata):
ID modello: UVC Camera VendorID_1452 ProductID_34059
ID unico: 0xfa20000005ac850b
Black video in Photo Booth, Zoom, etc.
Camera is working in Windows10
Already checked Privacy and Security.
Can you help, please?
Keep up the great work you do to allow us leveraging the investment done on previous model!
Best
SORRY!
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Dear,
long term OCLP user, today I updated to Ventura 13.4 on my iMAC 27 Mid 2011 after having passed Big Sure and Monterey successfully.
Everything is working fine except:
Fotocamera HD FaceTime (integrata):
ID modello: UVC Camera VendorID_1452 ProductID_34059
ID unico: 0xfa20000005ac850b
Black video in Photo Booth, Zoom, etc.
Camera is working in Windows10
Already checked Privacy and Security.
Can you help, please?
Keep up the great work you do to allow us leveraging the investment done on previous model!
Best
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I've been finding that with some older Macs, notably 2013-2015 models, that the BootROM refuses to update even with an Apple OEM SSD installed. It's kind of a catch22, you need the BootROM to be above a certain revision for SSDs to be recognized properly.
In my experience, especially with some revisions of the iMac 2015, what always works for me is this:
Have to open up the iMac first, then I always keep an old 7200 RPM HD to hook onto the built-in SATA cable (usually with a replacement sensor adapter) and wipe it first, then boot from the latest Big Sur installer USB and run the installer as usual, and that will always update the BootROM. Only after that do I apply OCLP and then whatever subsequent BootROM updates are necessary.
If it's not an iMac, attaching the SATA HD to a good USB dock, then to a port, and then telling the BS installer to install onto that also works.
The last time I ran into an issue updating the BootROM it was on a 2015 rMBP that had a no-name SSD adapter and a Crucial 512 GB SSD installed, and installing to an external HD worked fine.
In my experience, especially with some revisions of the iMac 2015, what always works for me is this:
Have to open up the iMac first, then I always keep an old 7200 RPM HD to hook onto the built-in SATA cable (usually with a replacement sensor adapter) and wipe it first, then boot from the latest Big Sur installer USB and run the installer as usual, and that will always update the BootROM. Only after that do I apply OCLP and then whatever subsequent BootROM updates are necessary.
If it's not an iMac, attaching the SATA HD to a good USB dock, then to a port, and then telling the BS installer to install onto that also works.
The last time I ran into an issue updating the BootROM it was on a 2015 rMBP that had a no-name SSD adapter and a Crucial 512 GB SSD installed, and installing to an external HD worked fine.
I did. Ventura 13.3 onwards still having a kernel panic even in a clean installation
You are my hero, @Marfan-58 .
I'm obsessed with what's new and I don't have the courage to give up Ventura, even if Ventura has very few new features compared to Monterey which with OCLP is ultra perfect for our iMacs.
However Ventura has a little extra convenience for me. For example… uhm… it allows me to unsend emails…
(and this has only caused me trouble as I have sometimes shut down my Mac after sending emails and obviously the emails haven’t been send… Grrrr… While instead I never had to cancel a sending, obviously…)Then Ventura has Stage Manager (which I used and gave up using forever after some rehearsals).
And do you want to put the removal of backgrounds?… (which I don't use though because I have an App that does it much better and that I can manage).
That being said, you're doing well since Monterey is stable plus it allows you to get Security Updates.
With Ventura, on the other hand, the known problems appeared from 13.3 and I had to go back to 13.2.1 since I use the Mac for my job.
Regarding Security, however, I use the Firewall and I never frequent porn or dangerous sites and certainly Ventura 13.2.1 is safer than Catalina which is the System supported by our iMacs. Or what about High Sierra that I use on a 2010 MBP?…
Kind regards,
V.
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Ventura has not big new features but it’s a prerequisite if you want to use Xcode 14.3 and upper.
And it’s probably the case for other software
And it’s probably the case for other software
I love the new shiny stuff as well. Ironically, Stage Manager was the feature I was making the most use of. Otherwise, nothing in Ventura is critical for me. Couple that with the reduced compatibility of the Kepler/Haswell GPU which in my case made Find My, Maps and Apple TV virtually useless, together with apps such as Alfred, iMazing and Carbon Copy Cloner all having issues and reduced functionality and the cons outweighed the pros.You are my hero, @Marfan-58 .
I'm obsessed with what's new and I don't have the courage to give up Ventura, even if Ventura has very few new features compared to Monterey which with OCLP is ultra perfect for our iMacs.
However Ventura has a little extra convenience for me. For example… uhm… it allows me to unsend emails…
Then Ventura has Stage Manager (which I used and gave up using forever after some rehearsals).
And do you want to put the removal of backgrounds?… (which I don't use though because I have an App that does it much better and that I can manage).
That being said, you're doing well since Monterey is stable plus it allows you to get Security Updates.
With Ventura, on the other hand, the known problems appeared from 13.3 and I had to go back to 13.2.1 since I use the Mac for my job.
Regarding Security, however, I use the Firewall and I never frequent porn or dangerous sites and certainly Ventura 13.2.1 is safer than Catalina which is the System supported by our iMacs. Or what about High Sierra that I use on a 2010 MBP?…
Kind regards,
V.
Fingers crossed that our machine will get the patches it needs to run Ventura as well as Monterey, but I'm not holding my breath. Saving for an M2 Mini already.
...and that's a serious consideration. If I was using my iMac for business purposes then I would have invested in an up to date machine long before now. Fortunately, my main hobby of digital/astro photography is still possible although painfully slow with some of the new AI features in Photoshop.
I think the AI-powered Photoshop features are slow since they rely on the Cloud. In fact, if you watch the videos on YouTube, you will notice that the response time is long regardless of the hardware and whether it is a Mac or a PC
P.S.
Saying that you love to use Stage Manager makes you even more of a hero in my eyes… I consider Stage Manager as something that hurts the brain and leads to insanity
Please could somebody offer advice- I've been running venture through OCLP for several months on my late 2015 5k iMac but it now fails to complete the boot process. I type in my password, which works but get stuck on the next loading screen before the desktop appears, mouse works but can't get beyond the post log in screen. Any ideas on how to fix?
Boot When your Mac is starting up, you'll need to press and hold the Command + V keys,
Then it will tell you where it gets stuck no doubt you need to update OCLP if you updated your Mac without updating OCLP ?.
Hi, thanks for your reply, how do I update OCLP? I updated the OCLP app within the OS (think that's what caused the issue) guessing you mean update the boot loader? How do I do that? Thanks in advance
Do you have another MacOS installed ? You can repatch from your backup MacOS or install one.Hi, thanks for your reply, how do I update OCLP? I updated the OCLP app within the OS (think that's what caused the issue) guessing you mean update the boot loader? How do I do that? Thanks in advance
again hold Command-V on start up in verbose mode then you will see where it pauses
Don't have another os installed but currently have access to a working Mac at work so I've just created a bootable Mac OS 12 usb drive to take home. Will try command V but not sure I have the knowledge to do anything with that info! Anymore tips you can give whilst I have access to a working Mac will be appreciated!
Have you also tried just holding shift and booting in safe mode?. Always good to have a separate partition with your last supported system for your Mac installed then you can fix most problems as a backup I would try safe mode and revert patches but install OCLP current 6.8 or the AMFIPass beta rebuild the efi it creates , hold alt on boot select EFI then pick your Ventura install.
I do iOS development for a personal app. It's not really professional, but I must follow OS upgrades. If I want to build for new iOS versions, I need an up to date Xcode.
Of course, I could buy a new Mac, but I love my 5K 27" Retina display, and to have a similar experience I need the Studio display + a new Mac mini.
It's very expensive and overkill for my needs. My old 2015 iMac is powerful enough for my needs, it works perfectly, it looks brand new and I'd prefer to continue using it with OCLP ...
But sadly, I have a lot of HEVC decoder problems.
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