macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[davidlv]

Ok, still 0.6.7, I might give it a run under Ventura and see if the versions update sticks this time!

"Ok, still 0.6.7" doesn't tell us anything useful. It could mean you haven't touched the computer since your last post.
Did you download the 0.6.8n from the site posted above?
Did you install (drag and drop) it to the Library/Application Support/Dortania folder and make an alias to that file and put it in the /Applications folder?
Did you open the OCLP app and run the Build and Install to disk option?
!! Did You click on the internal SSD (or HDD) and then click on the sub partition shown?
!! That is two (2) clicks!! If you didn't do that second click, the result would probably be as you are reporting, no update to 0.6.8.

 

[davidlv]

@Bmld
🤔 How could I create a new container if I'm already on OCLP? Disk Utility shows me no possibility to create it.
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You don't want a new container, you want a new volume under that container. Use the + symbol!

 

[gustavopi]

I have just tried to install macOS Ventura with OpenCore 0.6.1 in my Macbook Pro 9,2 (mid 2012) with 16GB RAM and 500MB SSD. I did it in a new APFS volume because (lucky me) I need a clean install due to an unsolvable Safari issue (ok, a new user will solve it, but whatś the point). After some reboots and progress bars now it will always stop in 1/3 of the loading bar. Than, the screen goes very dark, barelly can see the logo, and than total black - and that's it.

What I do find strange is the mouse pointer show up in the top left corner when loading, I can move it, and than it disappears, and than show up again in the corner... Also I am aware ther is some black screen issue with this OS for the supported macs, so it seems is not the very best OS Apple has done so far! In fact, is my first non succesfull install in this mac. Still have a volume with Monterey running.

I am now writting in Linux Mint 21.1 that runs very well, but I still need macOS for some apps as Adobe Cloud. So how to put this Ventura to run? Or should I wait for next macOS?

 

[Larry-K]

May I suggest you put your hardware in your signature? That way we can think about your post and maybe suggest something helpful. Click on your name at the top of the page to the right of the Forums button and edit the Signature.
Next, when you post, as above, it is best to add more details, as shown below.
"Did that and -->" then what happened?
Then "after about 20 Minutes" as I was doing what? "got a Yellow Alert Sign" (do you know what caused that?

Here are the specs for the MacPro 5,1 I'm trying to load OCLP/Ventura on.

--------------------------------------------See Signature---------------------------------------------------------

So I decided to give up on Ventura for now, too many wonky things were happening, I wasted three nights I didn't have to waste, and I can wait till these mysteries reveal themselves on this forum.

Went back to OCLP, and installed Monterey, and that went pretty smoothly. I'll get by on that for now.

I've been to Monterey and Ventura and I prefer the former anyway.

Thanks for your help and suggestions, If anybody has any ideas, please let me know. I've still got another 970EVO Plus left to eventually put Ventura on.

 

[TimmuJapan]

I have just tried to install macOS Ventura with OpenCore 0.6.1 in my Macbook Pro 9,2 (mid 2012) with 16GB RAM and 500MB SSD. I did it in a new APFS volume because (lucky me) I need a clean install due to an unsolvable Safari issue (ok, a new user will solve it, but whatś the point). After some reboots and progress bars now it will always stop in 1/3 of the loading bar. Than, the screen goes very dark, barelly can see the logo, and than total black - and that's it.

What I do find strange is the mouse pointer show up in the top left corner when loading, I can move it, and than it disappears, and than show up again in the corner... Also I am aware ther is some black screen issue with this OS for the supported macs, so it seems is not the very best OS Apple has done so far! In fact, is my first non succesfull install in this mac. Still have a volume with Monterey running.

I am now writting in Linux Mint 21.1 that runs very well, but I still need macOS for some apps as Adobe Cloud. So how to put this Ventura to run? Or should I wait for next macOS?

If you are trying to install the latest version of macOS Ventura, then you probably need an OCLP version higher than 0.6.1. Try using the latest version of OCLP for installing the latest version of Ventura (13.4.1).

Using the latest OCLP version is not what we want to do if only booting Big Sur or Monterey with OCLP, but at this time, the latest versions of OCLP are designed for / geared towards the latest versions of Ventura.

 

[thegdn]

System Version: macOS 13.5 (22G74)
Nicely done Devs

 

[Ready-for-Apple]

You just need another volume to install a second system.
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You don't want a new container, you want a new volume under that container. Use the + symbol!

Thanks!🙏🏻
I did this last night - but if I do it this way, the EFI is the same for both versions.🤔.

Background is that I want to "backup" my main system and use a "test system" for new macOS updates + OCLP updates.

Because if I use the same EFi for both volumes and then something does not work with a newer OCLP, then my main system would be affected, right?!

Also, according to Mr. Macintosh's instructions, you should ALWAYS update the OCLP first and then install the macOS update. Since both are sort of simultaneous, I wouldn't know if the newer OCLP or the macOS update or both created the new problem. And then if the EFI partition is affected, I wouldn't be able to access any of the volumes, would I?

Would be very helpful of you if you could alleviate these concerns for me and explain your installations in more detail.

PS: @Bmld wrote "container", not "volume" – but I couldn't add another container to my disk.

This is how my system looks like:

 

[makra]

Thanks!🙏🏻
I did this last night - but if I do it this way, the EFI is the same for both versions.🤔.

Background is that I want to "backup" my main system and use a "test system" for new macOS updates + OCLP updates.

You can always bypass the OC EFI by pressing alt, if OC interferes with your older macOS. If you run into problem, reset the PRAM/NVRAM first.

 

[deeveedee]

Ok, still 0.6.7, I might give it a run under Ventura and see if the versions update sticks this time!

If "still 0.6.7" means that you ran 'nvram 4D1FDA02-38C7-4A6A-9CC6-4BCCA8B30102:OCLP-Version' and it reported 0.6.7, then you are not booting with an Open Core EFI generated with OCLP 0.6.8. This could be due to:

1. You did not "Build and Install Open Core" with OCLP 0.6.8
2. You have multiple Open Core EFIs and you are not booting from the EFI that you think you are

If you are testing with multiple Open Core EFIs, I have found that it is best to Reset NVRAM before booting with a new (different) EFI. If your Mac has multiple physical drives, you'll save yourself any confusion by having an Open Core EFI installed on only one of the drives.

 

[gustavopi]

If you are trying to install the latest version of macOS Ventura, then you probably need an OCLP version higher than 0.6.1. Try using the latest version of OCLP for installing the latest version of Ventura (13.4.1).

Using the latest OCLP version is not what we want to do if only booting Big Sur or Monterey with OCLP, but at this time, the latest versions of OCLP are designed for / geared towards the latest versions of Ventura.

I have updated OCLP to 0.6.7 that suppose to be the latest stable version. Then I installed it in my boot partition, downloaded macOS 13.4.1 and tried again. Now it will freeze in 1/3 of loading bar (after installation) and boot after a while - stay in looping until I choose other OS. Well, I guess I will have to wait for a OCLP 0.7 and probably jump directly to Sonoma, unless somebody has an idea...

By the way, thanks for trying to help me.

 

[davidlv]

I have updated OCLP to 0.6.7 that suppose to be the latest stable version. Then I installed it in my boot partition, downloaded macOS 13.4.1 and tried again. Now it will freeze in 1/3 of loading bar (after installation) and boot after a while - stay in looping until I choose other OS. Well, I guess I will have to wait for a OCLP 0.7 and probably jump directly to Sonoma, unless somebody has an idea...

By the way, thanks for trying to help me.

I think your install method may not be good. You said you downloaded Ventura and installed it to a boot partition.
I assume you just ran the macOS installer? What OS did you use to do that? And was that from the same partition or a different volume? Something is not clear here?
As you should know, (you have read the install instructions, right?) the standard way to begin with OCLP is to create a USB install disk using OCLP. That can also be done using the terminal command shown below and then using OCLP to Build and Install, writing to the USB disk.
But that requires a viable macOS already installed, do you have a macOS installed? Do you have another Mac, or can You borrow a friend's Mac to get that USB installer made?
You already have Linux installed on that Mac, right? Can you post your "diskutil list" or "diskutil apfs list" results? I am not an expert, but there are many here who can look at that and tell you what needs to be done.
code: (make a USB disk with the name Untitled)
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled

 

[gustavopi]

I think your install method may not be good. You said you downloaded Ventura and installed it to a boot partition.
I assume you just ran the macOS installer? What OS did you use to do that? And was that from the same partition or a different volume? Something is not clear here?
As you should know, (you have read the install instructions, right?) the standard way to begin with OCLP is to create a USB install disk using OCLP. That can also be done using the terminal command shown below and then using OCLP to Build and Install, writing to the USB disk.
But that requires a viable macOS already installed, do you have a macOS installed? Do you have another Mac, or can You borrow a friend's Mac to get that USB installer made?
You already have Linux installed on that Mac, right? Can you post your "diskutil list" or "diskutil apfs list" results? I am not an expert, but there are many here who can look at that and tell you what needs to be done.
code: (make a USB disk with the name Untitled)
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled

Now writing directly from my Ventura just installed!
And, yes, I was a bit lost, tired. I decided to try again with the guide by my side. However, I also erased the previous installation and created a new APFS volume to install Ventura. I suspect the installer was jumping over some step. So I ran the installer again, from cold boot, and did let it do the work - go to market to buy stuffs for a barbecue.

As I realize, one error is to touch the Mac during the process because it will be rebooted and it must follow the right path that is marked in NVRAM. The installer knows what to do...

Finally, I was pleased to know that this time the OS is already patched and with OCLP installed, there is nothing else to do, different from previous installations that it was a painful work to patch it with no even GPU acceleration!

Thanks and hope my story help others to achieve success!

 

[everettk24]

Hey guys, so I just upgraded
from Monterey to Ventura via OpenCore and after I did so, I tried to apply the root patches but for some reason I got an error. Here is a picture for reference.
I also had this same issue with Monterey. (without the os major version unrecognized line and it said it was an APFS bug) Can anyone tell me how to fix? Thanks. (My computer is a 2010 iMac 21.5 inch)

 

[TimmuJapan]

Then I installed it in my boot partition

Are you installing with a usb drive installer? Did you follow the install instructions on the OCLP website?
This is the way…..😉

PS - it also sounds like you are multi booting many OSes on your main SSD. With an OCLP Ventura usb install stick, perhaps try installing on an external SSD to start and see if that works. Sometimes when multi booting unsupported macOS, windows, Linux, etc. on a single machine, the order in which you install the different OSes on the main drive can determine whether or not the outcome successful. Previously, when I triple booted macs with Linux, windows and macOS, I needed to install Linux last of all (not first or second) to get a successful triple boot.


PS - for whatever reason, I wasn’t able to see the previous replies when posting this. Especially @davidlv . He nailed it. Glad that it is working now.

 

[geo_m]

hi there,
first of all: Big thanks to the developers and the community to all the effort!

Mac: Mac mini6,2 (Late 2012), 2,3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 16 GB
OCLP: 0.6.6 -> 0.6.7
Ventura: 13.4 -> 13.4.1
Apple Thunderbolt Display

I prepared an update from mac OS 13.4 to 13.4.1 by updating OCLP 0.6.6 to 0.6.7 (deleted the old one inside the program folder and made an alias of the current one - inside the Library - to the applications folder.
Built and Installed OpenCore (Target: Host Model), restarted…
worked quite fine (except the "Numers/ Pages will crash when dragging an image into an open document"-bug, like it did before)

Then I ran the system update (via Systemsettings to 13.4.1) - some restarts, flawless
Finally installed the Post-Install Run Patch, restarted.

now I have a very slow graphics:
- minimize/ maximize a window takes 5-10 sec to complete,
- finder windows with tabs and safari tabs have a dark appearance
- Safari and DuckDuckGo browser load the content of a page but will show mostly nothing.
(by activating another window the content will becomes visible, and scrollable. Activating this window again: white)
Brave behaves normally

Re-installed the Post-Install Run Patchand restarted. Result: none…

any advice?

and: Systemsettings offers "macOS Ventura 13.4.1 (c)", loading but fails on preparation for installation…
(it´s a pre-Haswell Mac so I´m confused, that this machine becomes this update offered)

 

[makra]

Re-installed the Post-Install Run Patchand restarted. Result: none…

Does OCLP report any errors? I found a trouble shooting scheme somewhere, which measures to take if root patches don't work. But I can't find them any more.

13.4.1 (c): It's macOS reporting this update - not OCLP! And of course macOS can't know, which unsupported machine you're using.

 

[davidlv]

hi there,
first of all: Big thanks to the developers and the community to all the effort!

Mac: Mac mini6,2 (Late 2012), 2,3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 16 GB
OCLP: 0.6.6 -> 0.6.7
Ventura: 13.4 -> 13.4.1
Apple Thunderbolt Display

I prepared an update from mac OS 13.4 to 13.4.1 by updating OCLP 0.6.6 to 0.6.7 (deleted the old one inside the program folder and made an alias of the current one - inside the Library - to the applications folder.
Built and Installed OpenCore (Target: Host Model), restarted…
worked quite fine (except the "Numers/ Pages will crash when dragging an image into an open document"-bug, like it did before)

Then I ran the system update (via Systemsettings to 13.4.1) - some restarts, flawless
Finally installed the Post-Install Run Patch, restarted.

now I have a very slow graphics:
- minimize/ maximize a window takes 5-10 sec to complete,
- finder windows with tabs and safari tabs have a dark appearance
- Safari and DuckDuckGo browser load the content of a page but will show mostly nothing.
(by activating another window the content will becomes visible, and scrollable. Activating this window again: white)
Brave behaves normally

Re-installed the Post-Install Run Patchand restarted. Result: none…

any advice?

and: Systemsettings offers "macOS Ventura 13.4.1 (c)", loading but fails on preparation for installation…
(it´s a pre-Haswell Mac so I´m confused, that this machine becomes this update offered)

You didn't say whether or not you cleared the NVRAM (Option+Command+r+p keys on boot).
Use this site to get the latest 0.6.8n.

OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/SOURCE.md at main · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

Experience macOS just like before. Contribute to dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

I would try that, followed by Build and Install to disk again, and again run the post install patches.
Hope that helps.

 

[geo_m]

13.4.1 (c): It's macOS reporting this update - not OCLP! And of course macOS can't know, which unsupported machine you're using

that makes sense!

NVRAM was cleared, but I did it again… no difference recognized, except booting from second HD (in High Sierra) changed Startvolume in Systempreferences

Downloaded 0.6.8n. placed it manually inside the Libraryfolder with new alias to Applications.

"Build and install openCore again, rebooteed and applied the Post-Install Root Patch. Reboot.

first it was the sam "buggy" appearance (cached graphics?). But after 10 sec. the Tabs went bright again. Looks fine and behaves as supposed.

Manymany thanks!

 

[davidlv]

Does OCLP report any errors? I found a trouble shooting scheme somewhere, which measures to take if root patches don't work. But I can't find them any more.

Maybe that "troubleshooting" scheme was this?

General troubleshooting | OpenCore Legacy Patcher

 

[makra]

Maybe that "troubleshooting" scheme was this?

General troubleshooting | OpenCore Legacy Patcher

No, there were several possible measures to take, if root patching didn't work out. I'm getting old - I thought it was something on the OCLP-site, but I can't find it anymore.

 

[davidlv]

No, there were several possible measures to take, if root patching didn't work out. I'm getting old - I thought it was something on the OCLP-site, but I can't find it anymore.

Don't worry about that! we are all getting older and we often forget things.
I sometimes find myself in the kitchen thinking, "Now why did I come here? What was I thinking to get?"
brain rot.....

 

[JoinMeinHeaven]

This might be a stupid question, Can Opencore nigth builds brick your mac ? I don’t mean your installation, I mean the whole computer.

 

[Larsvonhier]

This might be a stupid question, Can Opencore nigth builds brick your mac ? I don’t mean your installation, I mean the whole computer.

nope
and if so, only temporarily, until you clear the NVRAM again (should there be some reason for not booting, or coming out of POST with wrong parameters)

 

[nekton1]

Just upgrade-installed Ventura 13.4.1 to 2014 MM (7.1) running Monterey from a USB stick and it all went well EXCEPT that the 0.6.7 Patcher post-install root patch for Haswell is not "sticking". I run the patch and it says it is installed and then 5 minutes later the system flashes up another message that the Haswell patch is not installed and we go through the same procedure. There is an error message at the end of patching and I have a screenshot but not immediately to hand now, I'll post it later, but does anyone have a fix for this issue? I tried uninstalling the root patch and rebooting and then reinstalling the root patch again and rebooting but still getting the same message about a missing root patch install. The effect of the missing patch is that Safari does not display web pages as it should.

 

[davidlv]

Just upgrade-installed Ventura 13.4.1 to 2014 MM (7.1) running Monterey from a USB stick and it all went well EXCEPT that the 0.6.7 Patcher post-install root patch for Haswell is not "sticking". I run the patch and it says it is installed and then 5 minutes later the system flashes up another message that the Haswell patch is not installed and we go through the same procedure. There is an error message at the end of patching and I have a screenshot but not immediately to hand now, I'll post it later, but does anyone have a fix for this issue? I tried uninstalling the root patch and rebooting and then reinstalling the root patch again and rebooting but still getting the same message about a missing root patch install. The effect of the missing patch is that Safari does not display web pages as it should.

See post #6,657 above; you could try those steps:
I.e., clear the NVRAM, install the latest nightly 0.6.8n version of OCLP, place it manually inside the Library/Application Support/Dortania folder with a new alias to the Applications folder.
Run the OCLP Build and Install to Disk, and reboot.
Then after the reboot, try the post install patches again.
Without seeing that "error message at the end of patching" that is all that comes to mind.