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Daniel Pascoal

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Successfully installed Ventura to 21.5 iMac 12.2 (2011) with OPCL v1.1.0 - Super great!
iMac NOT refitted with Metal capable gfx card.

a) In Photos app after root patching, full screen pictures are displayed with a blank screen. Without root paching, the Picture shows normally. Any way to revert this behaviour? Tried to revert and reinstallering root matches, which did nothing.

b) Is it possible to disable/block the Sonoma update Notification? Im not gonna further update this particular machine.
There's a "Disable app update" feature in OCLP, but I suppose thats for the OPCL app. Or..?

Thanks for any help in advance.
a) OCLP above v1 is more focused on Sonoma, I also had video problems on Ventura, so rolled back to v0.6.8 and now is working again. To roll back first revert the Root Patch then replace the app, build, install, re-apply root patch after reboot.
 
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deeveedee

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a) OCLP above v1 is more focused on Sonoma, I also had video problems on Ventura, so rolled back to v0.6.8 and now is working again. To roll back first revert the Root Patch then replace the app, build, install, re-apply root patch after reboot.
I, too, am still using OCLP 0.6.8 with Ventura 13.6.1 on my MBP6,2. In my case (MBP6,2 has non-metal Nvidia Tesla), I didn't notice any difference in Ventura when tested with OCLP versions 0.6.8 and 1.0.1, so I remained on 0.6.8 for now.
 

RK78

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Is anyone else experiencing this, either in Firefox esr or Firefox regular:

Running Firefox 115.4esr, Strangely enough, this board or anything macrumors + a few other sites I've so far encountered running FF in Venura can take a full minute or more to load. Same behavior even if I restart with all addons disabled.

Wondering if it's just my particular setup, or something OCLP related. Note, note blaming OCLP - quite likely it's just my setup with OCLP configured out of High Sierra.

And as a FYI, just installed bluesnooze https://github.com/odlp/bluesnooze/ in order to take care of the bluetooth wakeups, as the older setting to uncheck Allow Bluetooth devices to wake this computer appears to be missing in Ventura (and Monterey as well it seems). At least so far, appears to be working properly. Although it may take a few seconds for my magic mouse to re-connect after wakeup while bluetooth restarts.

Installed via homebrew https://thehotcode.com/sleeping-mac-bluetooth-off/
 

deeveedee

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Is anyone else experiencing this, either in Firefox esr or Firefox regular:

Running Firefox 115.4esr, Strangely enough, this board or anything macrumors + a few other sites I've so far encountered running FF in Venura can take a full minute or more to load. Same behavior even if I restart with all addons disabled.
Not experiencing this "take a full minute" behavior with Ventura 13.6.1 patched with OCLP 0.6.8 on MBP6,2 (non-metal Nvidia Tesla).

Shouldn't need to run ESR, since Firefox still supports Ventura.

Screenshot 2023-11-01 at 12.31.41 PM.png


EDIT: Always post your OCLP and macOS version numbers when asking for assistance.

EDIT2: Are you requesting High Sierra support?

EDIT3: @RK78 I am guessing that if you are running FF115.4ESR in Ventura, that you upgraded to Ventura from High Sierra. If that is the case, you may want to upgrade Ventura Firefox to the latest version. If upgrading doesn't resolve the slow response problem, you may want to try removing and re-installing FF in Ventura.
 
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RK78

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Not experiencing this "take a full minute" behavior with Ventura 13.6.1 patched with OCLP 0.6.8 on MBP6,2 (non-metal Nvidia Tesla).

Shouldn't need to run ESR, since Firefox still supports Ventura.

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EDIT: Always post your OCLP and macOS version numbers when asking for assistance.

EDIT2: Are you requesting High Sierra support?
OCLP is v.1.1.0 / Ventura 13.6.1.

Since you're not seeing this with the 119, sounds like it's my particular setup, which doesn't surprise me. Running iMac 10,1 non-metal. Do you think I'd be better off with the 0.6.8?

In fact, even if I can run the 119 here, prefer the ESR, which I've been using for years, and which only makes it necessary to deal with UI modifications once a year, by way of modified or new CSS.

Not requesting HS support. HS runs just fine, and not quite ready to give up many years of customizations there.
 

deeveedee

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No offense, but it was a A or B question. Still don't know what you did, but I would suggest a clean install of Ventura to a new APFS volume. Perform migration from Time Machine backup of HS with Migration Assistant as the last step of the Ventura install when prompted by the Ventura installer.

If that doesn't fix the problem, uninstall FF and then install the latest FF.
 

RK78

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Back to original topic: Just very strange that, for whatever reason, macrumors, of all sites, which is essential for this project, has so much trouble fully loading in my Firefox. Almost all other sites I've visited from Firefox/Ventura load quite fast. (Writing this from Brave). Not much more to say than that -- not ready to go through all the trouble again of a new OCLP Ventura install, at least not at the moment.
 

romaji

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I didn't receive an answer to my earlier question😭 but it's ok.

Can someone make me a recommendation? what should I install on my MBA mid 2013? Ventura or Monterey?
Is Ventura slow compared to Monterey on older machines?

Screenshot 2023-10-27 at 02.34.32.png


Thank you so much!🙏
 

deeveedee

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Can someone make me a recommendation? what should I install on my MBA mid 2013? Ventura or Monterey?
Is Ventura slow compared to Monterey on older machines?
I think that by the time you compile the results from your informal poll, you could complete your own tests of both Ventura and Monterey and decide for yourself. Is there any reason that you don't want to take the initiative to test and evaluate your own results?

After you perform your own tests, contribute your test results and your conclusions in this forum.

If you want an opinion, I'd skip Monterey and install Ventura with OCLP 0.6.8.

EDIT: But Monterey will probably be a little more responsive than Ventura. Is it enough of a difference that you'll prefer Monterey over Ventura? I have no idea.
 

romaji

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I think that by the time you compile the results from your informal poll, you could complete your own tests of both Ventura and Monterey and decide for yourself. Is there any reason that you don't want to take the initiative to test and evaluate your own results?

After you perform your own tests, contribute your test results and your conclusions in this forum.

If you want an opinion, I'd skip Monterey and install Ventura with OCLP 0.6.8.

EDIT: But Monterey will probably be a little more responsive than Ventura. Is it enough of a difference that you'll prefer Monterey over Ventura? I have no idea.
Sorry.. I am a student so I don’t have much time to reinstall and test.
I was thinking maybe people who's got the same system or similar have already installed Monterey previously and Ventura; so would have a preference that they would like to share.

But anyways, thanks I’ll go with Ventura.
 
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romaji

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Understood - much less time than the rest of us with jobs. :cool:

I work part-time too? I am back to this old machine because other one broke, so I can’t just keep clean-installing and time machine-ing everything to “test”.. I need a working machine at all times. I am a med student, that’s why asked on my first post if 'live-text' has any problems on Ventura because well.. endless anatomy and histology.

I mean I just asked questions on a forum towards people with more knowledge and experience with this… I didn’t know it was this unwelcoming here💀💀 Time to find a newbie friendly place~
 

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I mean I just asked questions on a forum towards people with more knowledge and experience with this… I didn’t know it was this unwelcoming here💀💀 Time to find a newbie friendly place~
You misunderstand me. I never assume that I am any more busy than another or that my circumstances are any more challenged than another. Truth is, we each have no idea the extent to which another is busy, challenged, suffering or worse. And definitely don't make the mistake of assuming that I am in charge of the welcoming committee. I tend to get impatient with others too easily, so don't judge the rest of this wonderful community because of my behavior. Everyone else here eagerly welcomes you and your questions.

EDIT: Read this.
 
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ElSooz

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I just noticed an issue with my late 2013 MBP 11,3 FaceTime HD Camera. It just shows a black rectangle when I select the camera in Zoom and Facetime. The camera light on the built-in camera blinks but is not steady green when that camera is selected. I believe this is not a hardware issue-the camera did work not long ago.

A Facetime camera on an old cinema display works when selected, and also another external camera. I noticed various reports of camera issues on this thread when I searched but found no suggested solutions for this. Any advice?

MBP Late 2013 11,3 OCLP 1.2.0n (Nov. 1), Ventura 13.6
 

ElSooz

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My apologies: I just booted into the last supported OS for the MBP 11,3 --Big Sur-- and the camera does not work. Still blinking green light. I now think it is most likely a hardware issue.
 

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My apologies: I just booted into the last supported OS for the MBP 11,3 --Big Sur-- and the camera does not work. Still blinking green light. I now think it is most likely a hardware issue.
When you tested Big Sur, which version of OCLP did you use to "Build and Install Open Core" and apply post-install patches?
 
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