macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[deeveedee]

@RK78 Very clever use of the Safari18.1.1.VenturaAuto.pkg!

EDIT: I, too, am running Ventura 13.7.2 with Safari 18.1.1.

EDIT2: @RK78 Your recommended use of Safari18.1.1.VenturaAuto.pkg fixed my borked Ventura volume. I hadn't yet trashed my test volume that had been upgraded to Ventura 13.7.2 with Safari 18.2. By installing Safari18.1.1VenturaAuto.pkg over top of Safari 18.2 (no other changes), I was able to revert from Safari 18.2 -> 18.1.1 which then allowed me to apply OCLP 2.2.0 post-install patches.

 

[RK78]

@RK78 Very clever use of the Safari18.1.1.VenturaAuto.pkg!

EDIT: I, too, am running Ventura 13.7.2 with Safari 18.1.1.

EDIT2: @RK78 Your recommended use of Safari18.1.1.VenturaAuto.pkg fixed my borked Ventura volume. I hadn't yet trashed my test volume that had been upgraded to Ventura 13.7.2 with Safari 18.2. By installing Safari18.1.1VenturaAuto.pkg over top of Safari 18.2 (no other changes), I was able to revert from Safari 18.2 -> 18.1.1 which then allowed me to apply OCLP 2.2.0 post-install patches.

Happy to hear that this fixed things for you. Nice to have the compliment, but nothing clever, it was pure dumb luck that the Auto.pkg was the solution to downgrade. Was quite expecting to have to just leave Safari in its unusable state, since I think I've used Safari a total of 2 times since installing Ventura OCLP. My go to browsers are Firefox and Brave, if when Firefox craps out.

Next up, run the 13.7.2 on the Mini, but this time leave out the Safari update. 😀 Also good to know that copying over the Safari folder from the backup wasn't needed.

 

[alphascorp]

Hi everyone

Update from OCLP 1.4.3 to 2.2.0 on EFI (internal) macOS 13.7.1

Creating a macOS 13.7.2 USB installer with OCLP 2.2.0 on EFI (USB)

The macOS 13.7.2 USB installer DOES NOT START with OCLP 2.2.0 (black screen with apple logo and empty progress bar) whether using OCLP EFI (internal) or EFI (USB).

Downgrade EFI (USB) to OCLP 1.4.3 and update to macOS 13.7.2 via USB installer.

Boot macOS 13.7.2 with OCLP 2.2.0 EFI (internal) and post-installation patch with OCLP 2.2.0

Safari 18.2 DOES NOT WORK with OCLP 2.2.0 contrary to what can be read on Github:
"Resolve JavaScriptCore crashes on ... Safari 18,2 (including macOS Ventura ...)"

Downgrade to Safari 18.1.1

Everything else has been running smoothly and stably for the past 10 days.

We can't say it enough: THANK YOU DEVELOPERS!

AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL

 

[K two]

macOS 13.7.2 installed atop 13.7.1 OTA, OCLP 2.2, runs as expected, including Safari 18.2.

 

[K two]

This from Discord, may be of interest here: "it appears that Safari 18.2's JavaScript JIT requires AVX, so please avoid installing macOS 15.2 or any Safari updates on Ventura/Sonoma if you have a pre-Sandy Bridge CPU. if you've already updated and are seeing crashes, launchctl setenv JSC_useJIT false; launchctl setenv __XPC_JSC_useJIT false may allow Safari/Music/App Store to launch, but performance will be drastically reduced. we are investigating further; please be patient." 🤔

 

[Andrejj_T]

[POST TITLE:] Undesirable DISPLAY side-effects of upgrading to Ventura

My hardware:

• A MacBookPro11,1
  (2014-model 13" Retina; 3GHz i7 with Haswell Iris graphics, 16GB RAM and 120GB free disk)
• Various external displays, connected via HDMI: Dell UltraSharp 27" (U2723QE) and 49" Curved (U4924UW)

My software environment BEFORE and AFTER upgrades:

• OpenCore Legacy Patcher (OCLP) 2.1.2 --> 2.2
• macOS [Monterey] 12.6.7 --> macOS [Ventura] 13.7.2

Background / Appreciation
I’ve been using OCLP for over a year now, so I whole-heartedly THANK YOU very much (particularly to Greg Grant/Inaudible Discussion) for bringing - and keeping - my old Mac on current software support levels (relevant for e.g. Mozilla Firefox, Signal and Ms Office 365)!

Situation / Problem
BUT, after upgrading macOS from Monterey to Ventura, the OS’es interpretation of display devices has gone wrong. What has changed is that (1) my System Settings only reports “Unknown Display 42-inch (2560 x 1600)” – even after flipping the GUI switch to “Show all resolutions”. As you can imagine rendering as if you have 42" on an 13" built-in becomes very tiny resolution. On top of that, the selection marker (e.g. within MS-Word) is sometimes imprecise and covers and exaggerated area compared to what I actually select (either via [shift]+[arrow key] or mouse drag). On top of that the system no longer seems to pick up any monitor signal via HDMI cables (yes, I’ve tried several combinations).

Besides, I have joined both (a) your [OCLP] Discord Unsupported Macs channel and (b) the MacRumors “macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs” forums (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-13-ventura-on-unsupported-macs-thread.2346881/), unfortunately without finding a solution for my graphics issue. All of this was written on the above-mentioned system, so it’s possible to use it, but far from optimal.

– I would be very grateful if you would be so kind and guide/help me a bit further here, please!

 

[Bigwaff]

BUT, after upgrading macOS from Monterey to Ventura, the OS’es interpretation of display devices has gone wrong.

And reapplied root patches after updating to Ventura?

 

[ottermatic]

I am trying to use OCLP to install Ventura on a MacBookPro12,1 (Early 2015). I downloaded OCLP 2.2.0 to another MBP, selected MacBookPro12,1 from the Settings drop-down and used it to create a USB installer for Ventura. Booting from the USB stick, I am able to pick the OCLP EFI from the boot menu, then select Install Ventura, but instead of booking into the Ventura installer, it boots into macOS Recovery (Recovery Assistant Version 1.0 / 144.5), giving me only options to recover one of the other two OSes I have installed (High Sierra and Monterey, both normal installations). Where should I go from here to get the installer to run normally?

 

[Bigwaff]

Recommended you install full version to separate disk or partition. Create a Ventura partition first. Recommend you watch guide very carefully

 

[ottermatic]

Recommended you install full version to separate disk or partition. Create a Ventura partition first. Recommend you watch guide very carefully

I watched the video in its entirety. The only difference between the video and what I was doing was erasing the USB stick to start, so I retried and did that (with a fresh USB stick), and I got the same results. I selected the OCLP EFI from the boot menu, then I selected the Ventura installer, and it booted into macOS Recovery, giving me only the option to "Select a volume to recover:" with my High Sierra and Monterey partitions shown. One note: the Recovery window looks to be the native Retina resolution (smaller text, etc.).

Other suggestions? I've Googled extensively, but I can't seem to find this issue detailed elsewhere. I also retried with OCLP version 1.5.0, but I got the same result.

 

[ottermatic]

Another data point -- I created a Sonoma installer on a separate USB stick, but booting from that has the same issue.

 

[makra]

Another data point -- I created a Sonoma installer on a separate USB stick, but booting from that has the same issue.

What you could do: Start Monterey and write OpenCore to your USB device. I can't tell you, why that should help - at some stage they had removed the possibility to build OpenCore on another Mac. That issue has since been resolved, but it can't do any harm to try...

 

[LookingOut]

What you could do: Start Monterey and write OpenCore to your USB device. I can't tell you, why that should help - at some stage they had removed the possibility to build OpenCore on another Mac. That issue has since been resolved, but it can't do any harm to try...

see below

 

[LookingOut]

What you could do: Start Monterey and write OpenCore to your USB device. I can't tell you, why that should help - at some stage they had removed the possibility to build OpenCore on another Mac. That issue has since been resolved, but it can't do any harm to try...

Another data point -- I created a Sonoma installer on a separate USB stick, but booting from that has the same issue.

Might be an issue with having High Sierra installed. As I recall there have been issues with some sort of bug efi related. Perhaps wipe High Sierra off and just use Monterey.

 

[ottermatic]

What you could do: Start Monterey and write OpenCore to your USB device. I can't tell you, why that should help - at some stage they had removed the possibility to build OpenCore on another Mac. That issue has since been resolved, but it can't do any harm to try...

The 1.5.0 build I'd done from the native machine, although I can retry with 2.2.0. Would it make a difference which machine I created the OS install from?

 

[ottermatic]

Might be an issue with having High Sierra installed. As I recall there have been issues with some sort of bug efi related. Perhaps wipe High Sierra off and just use Monterey.

This one will be more of an undertaking, and I liked the idea of still having the High Sierra installation.

Anything else I can try before I go down that route? Maybe an even older version of OCLP than 1.5.0?

 

[RK78]

This one will be more of an undertaking, and I liked the idea of still having the High Sierra installation.

Anything else I can try before I go down that route? Maybe an even older version of OCLP than 1.5.0?

Note, haven't read through the full discussion, but FWIW, I'm running both my High Sierra and Ventura OCLP (2.1.2) on separate partitions.

 

[makra]

Note, haven't read through the full discussion, but FWIW, I'm running both my High Sierra and Ventura OCLP (2.1.2) on separate partitions.

Actually, when I had High Sierra and Ventura on my MBP 9,1, it was on different partitions (not volumes), too. Worked as expected.

 

[ottermatic]

Actually, when I had High Sierra and Ventura on my MBP 9,1, it was on different partitions (not volumes), too. Worked as expected.

The plot thickens... so, I decided to just try upgrading my High Sierra installation to Monterey and seeing if then I could then install Ventura. I put a Monterey install partition (the normal Apple way, not with the OCLP utility) onto one of my OCLP USB sticks, and when I tried to boot from it, it still booted into macOS Recovery. Doing a little bit of Google research, it might be that something's going wonky and it's defaulting to the recovery partition on the HDD. I decided to try something different, and I ran the OCLP EFI from the USB stick, but instead of then selecting the Ventura installer, I booted from my Monterey volume, then ran the Ventura installer on the USB stick, and voila! I was able to install Ventura to a separate volume I'd created on my HDD.

I still have no idea why I can't get an installer to run from a USB stick, which I'd like to solve should I ever have an issue that needs repair, but for now, I'm off to the OCLP Ventura races.

 

[Andrejj_T]

And reapplied root patches after updating to Ventura?

Yes!

 

[Furka]

Apple Mini 2012 Ventura OCLPed: Keynote crashes after trying to paste an image on it.

 

[5T33Z0]

I've installed Ventura on a 27" 2013 i7 iMac with a Kepler GPU from a friend and applied root patches with OCLP, so that he could run the latest version of DaVinci Resolve on his system. A couple of days ago, he told me that the machine wasn't working properly any longer.

After checkong out a screenshot of the Dock, I knew that acceleration was no longer working (no transparency). So I told him to re-apply root patches. He did, and afterwards the system was working as expected again. Today, he had the same problem again. It was gone after applying root patches again.

Seems like the root patches are somehow not permanent. Anybody else experienced something similiar?