Not all actually. All macs have different required kexts (apparently) and some kexts are actually only supported for PC such as NVME fix and BlueToolFixup. How has Sonoma been for you?
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There is no need to guess. Use OCLP to "Build and Install Open Core" for various target models and look at the generated EFI (View Build Log without Installing to Disk). You will see that each target model typically does require different kexts. NVMeFix and BlueToolFixup are used in both hackintoshes and real Macs.
Not true.
NVMeFix is a set of patches for the Apple NVMe storage driver, IONVMeFamily. Its goal is to improve compatibility with non-Apple SSDs. It may be used both on Apple and non-Apple computers. Typically used when Apple's SSD is upgraded with non-apple SSD. On newer Intel Macs, Apple relaxed their strict requirement on NMVe SSD's so that NNMeFix was not required those Macs.
BlueToolFixup kext is required for all unsupported Macs with legacy BT hardware from start of Big Sur as Apple changed the bluetooth stack from kernel-space to user-space as detailed in here and here.
If you did not know, Intel based Apple Macs are based on the PC architecture as used by majority PC manufacturers and that architecture was developed with many Industry consortiums (PCIe, USB, etc).
Intel sent over 400+ engineers to Apple to help them design & move from PowerPC proprietary architecture to Intel based PC architecture.
So in essence, now unsupported Intel PC architecture based Macs have now become Hackintosh's.
they don't become hackintoshes cause the have a real SMC unlike the pcs running Mac OS unlicensed
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It would be interesting to get a confirmation from Apple that running macOS on unsupported Mac is licensed.
But... I guess we going off topic now.
If you really try, you might get as far as this guy:
de.ifixit.com
But that only confirms what the license states:
"you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time"
I guess that's what I did!
BEANTWORTET: macOS on unsupported Macs - legal or not? OpenCore - Mac OS X
So… driving on the wrong side of the street legal or illegal?? This is a bit of a grey space as driving on the wrong side maybe needed if the road is damaged or a vehicle is stopped blocking the path. Clearly it does carry risks! So technically Apple doesn’t support older legacy hardware and...
de.ifixit.com
But that only confirms what the license states:
"you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time"
I guess that's what I did!
I thought that multi booting of different versions of macOS is not against the "rules"?If you really try, you might get as far as this guy:
BEANTWORTET: macOS on unsupported Macs - legal or not? OpenCore - Mac OS X
So… driving on the wrong side of the street legal or illegal?? This is a bit of a grey space as driving on the wrong side maybe needed if the road is damaged or a vehicle is stopped blocking the path. Clearly it does carry risks! So technically Apple doesn’t support older legacy hardware and...
But that only confirms what the license states:
"you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time"
I guess that's what I did!
I'm not a lawyer...
What I quoted was the Ventura license agreement. Monterey would have its own agreement. So strictly speaking, you could argue, that two Ventura installations on two volumes on the same computer would not be legal, whereas different OS versions would be fine. But would Apple care?
is it still possible to already install Sonoma beta on macbook pro 15" 2017 14.3 now no longer supported in September for the final version? I have a usb stick with Sonoma installation ready made for imac 12.1, but OCLP does not detect the macbook pro 14.3 model and therefore it does not let me do the "build and install Opencore" operation on the stick...
where is it written its illegal to install different versions of mac os beside each other? apple doesn't care if u run 2 versions of macOS beside each other. even they say u can do it in VMs aswell.
it is not illegal or a grayzone to get newer versions of mac os to run on ur unsupported machine cause its real mac hardware even if apple no longer supports the machine
it is not illegal or a grayzone to get newer versions of mac os to run on ur unsupported machine cause its real mac hardware even if apple no longer supports the machine
the license states the device must be apple branded. which it is even though its a unsupported mac
So glad we're finally debating the legality of hackintoshes and multi-booting macOS, since it's never been debated before. How will the conclusion of this debate help us to install Sonoma on unsupported Macs?
The expected conclusion of this debate is Apple coming to their senses and realizing that in the onset of the Great Depression it is important for any company "to be with the people" as much as possible at least in terms of support of older Macs. In the end it is not too much of an effort not to remove one WiFi kext or a couple of older frameworks.
I mean Microsoft provided an official way to bypass the installation requirements of Windows 11 on older hardware with the disclaimer that the user accepts all responsibility.
It's been debated plenty of times, you just missed it the last two plus decades. Looking for sarcasm in case I missed it in your post.
Hi guys,
Long time reader first time poster. Some of you might know me and some of you might not, either way I'm glad to be here.
Long time reader first time poster. Some of you might know me and some of you might not, either way I'm glad to be here.
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An early preview of Sonoma support is now out. Notably, it is currently Metal-only.
Please read this fully before downloading anything, or we'll be very disappointed...
As usual, this is a beta operating system and a bleeding-edge patcher version. Don't try this if you're not already familiar with OCLP, don't try this if you're not willing to have to deal with any data loss, and especially don't try this if you don't know how to troubleshoot.
Please read this fully before downloading anything, or we'll be very disappointed...
As usual, this is a beta operating system and a bleeding-edge patcher version. Don't try this if you're not already familiar with OCLP, don't try this if you're not willing to have to deal with any data loss, and especially don't try this if you don't know how to troubleshoot.
Hi guys,
Thanks to the OpenCore Legacy Patcher developers I have acceleration on my 2014 iMac (iMac15,1) and the WiFi is now seeing all the networks around me but I can't connect to any of them (yet) I might need to do a clean install.
Kudos to all the people that made this possible.
Here is the link to Sonoma branch: https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/tree/sonoma-development
Commit 55e6aea made it possible
Thanks guys! You Rock!
Thanks to the OpenCore Legacy Patcher developers I have acceleration on my 2014 iMac (iMac15,1) and the WiFi is now seeing all the networks around me but I can't connect to any of them (yet) I might need to do a clean install.
Kudos to all the people that made this possible.
Here is the link to Sonoma branch: https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/tree/sonoma-development
Commit 55e6aea made it possible
Thanks guys! You Rock!
I own a MBP 14.3 (2017 TB). Build and installed the latest Sonoma built. Using an ethernet dongle hangs the machine after reboot (with a panic after restart). I need the dongle to let OCLP download KDK. Stuck on this. Anyone else experiencing this? Touch Bar and ethernet work when i start with OCLP 0.6.7. After applying wifi-patch the machine stops halfway. Used USB for KDK. Stil hangs halfway boot after applying Wifi-patch (with EFI 067 and 068). Re-installing fixes boot, but no Wifi. Using latest KDK. Thanks for helping.
Everything seems to work well (except HP Officejet scanning over the network from Image Capture or Preview, which crashes; and also Photo Booth doesn’t work: will retry later, to see if it gets any better); BTW, on this machine the Sonoma root patching isn’t KDK-less anymore (requires downloading the full KDK), and thus patched extensions now are all back in /System/Library/Extensions (none anymore in /Library/Extensions)…
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Hello to all,
Installed Sonoma beta 3 via OTA over Ventura 13.5 on iMac 13,2
Download OCLP associated with Sonoma through link provided in post #419 by dhinagk; clicking on word "this" (highlighted in blue) in phrase "Please read this ..." making sure to actually heed his advice.
Installed Sonoma associated OCLP onto the internal disk, reverted patches (both without rebooting), and only then initiated OTA Sonoma Beta3 download using the Software Update function. Installation required couple of auto-reboots, but was otherwise uneventful.
Once "on the Sonoma desktop", I attached Ethernet cable directly to computer port before installing Sonoma OCLP (second time) onto the disk, and only then initiated patching. Ethernet connection may be essential for the patcher to download appropriate KDK version (WiFi would be unlikely to work at that point), which OCLP does during patching process. Once patching was completed machine was rebooted.
Functions and most programs which were available under Ventura 13.5 are fully usable under Sonoma beta3 (including WiFi and graphic acceleration, however, Preview crashes, while LibreOffice works fine)
An addendum to avoid possible misunderstanding:
The name of Boot Disk, on the attached PDFs, is "Ventura Beta" while the Mac OS is listed as "Sonoma"; I didn't rename the disk after OTA update. The attached files are PDFs I exported from LibreOffice, after importing screen shots from desktop and editing some content (serial number , etc.)
Preview crashes, however, Apple TV seems to be working.
@hvds
There is a high probability (but just a probability) that I am able to update OS via OTA, because I only install updates to the Mac's internal disk. That is true of the iMac 13,2 and MacBook Pro 5,2 (the latter is actually quad-boot: Catalina, Monterey, Ventura and Sonoma).
Superb job by developers and associated testers -thank you.
Installed Sonoma beta 3 via OTA over Ventura 13.5 on iMac 13,2
Download OCLP associated with Sonoma through link provided in post #419 by dhinagk; clicking on word "this" (highlighted in blue) in phrase "Please read this ..." making sure to actually heed his advice.
Installed Sonoma associated OCLP onto the internal disk, reverted patches (both without rebooting), and only then initiated OTA Sonoma Beta3 download using the Software Update function. Installation required couple of auto-reboots, but was otherwise uneventful.
Once "on the Sonoma desktop", I attached Ethernet cable directly to computer port before installing Sonoma OCLP (second time) onto the disk, and only then initiated patching. Ethernet connection may be essential for the patcher to download appropriate KDK version (WiFi would be unlikely to work at that point), which OCLP does during patching process. Once patching was completed machine was rebooted.
Functions and most programs which were available under Ventura 13.5 are fully usable under Sonoma beta3 (including WiFi and graphic acceleration, however, Preview crashes, while LibreOffice works fine)
An addendum to avoid possible misunderstanding:
The name of Boot Disk, on the attached PDFs, is "Ventura Beta" while the Mac OS is listed as "Sonoma"; I didn't rename the disk after OTA update. The attached files are PDFs I exported from LibreOffice, after importing screen shots from desktop and editing some content (serial number , etc.)
Preview crashes, however, Apple TV seems to be working.
@hvds
There is a high probability (but just a probability) that I am able to update OS via OTA, because I only install updates to the Mac's internal disk. That is true of the iMac 13,2 and MacBook Pro 5,2 (the latter is actually quad-boot: Catalina, Monterey, Ventura and Sonoma).
Superb job by developers and associated testers -thank you.
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Graphics, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth all working well on my iMac 13,2, Late 2012, with Opencore Legacy Patcher 0.6.8 Public Preview from cyberdevs post above #420.
So far only found Photo Booth and Preview quitting.
Fantastic Work Devs!
