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iPhone 16e Many complain about 16e price, but their body action is the most honest

ThailandToo said:
I agree with your sentiment. But some older people in my family like aunts and uncles or my father in law cannot operate a modern iPhone without a home button. They all wear glasses and want something that fits in their pocket they primarily use as a phone but will use for something on the go. I tried for over an hour to teach my father in law to swipe but he couldn’t get it. He’s 84 years old. Sometimes it just doesn’t work. I think Apple screwed up by eliminating everything that made the iPhone simple to use when Steve introduced it. People can complain about skeuomorphic designs and etc, but it let people know how to intuitively use something. The home button was just simple. And people without the best dexterity or understanding of tech could easily get it. F/cked up, hit home button and I will figure it out. Literally, Apple is missing a mark here. New users from Android, sure. Young people or those who want to save, sure thing. But I don’t think Apple can sell these to people who they think they are also targeting. My father in law cannot use a modern iPhone. Has to have that home button. Seen it with many elderly too. Young people have the mind to learn anything. Those who love tech will figure it out. But those who aren’t understanding the basic framework or fundamentals or capable of operating by them are screwed.
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A black button is so hard to see, the much bigger monitor of 16e is much better for elderly
 
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we can't ignore it
 
ChrisMac47 said:
The 16e is just too big and heavy If Steve were still alive, and Jony back at Apple, we would have a fabulous small one-handed-operation SE4 ... it would look a million dollars and sell like hotcakes.
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If Jobs, if Ive....people keep holding themselves back because some PERSON they like is gone for whatever reason. We don't know what Jobs or Ive would have done. We should give it a rest.
TgeekB said:
I think it’s difficult to prove this as times have changed and they were both innovators. They wouldn’t have continued to do the same thing, they would have changed with the times. You’re not giving them enough credit.
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You said it better than I did.
klasma said:
That's so true, it was looking ridiculous.

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Oh that's awesome! It looks like somebody put a 3270 credit card skimmer on an iPhone!
Compote said:
Trolling with a gaslight from the get go shouldn't be allowed in any sane and salubrious community.
I will never buy that piece of garbage, and the issue isn't the price.

For The price I would have gotten it had it had Magsafe and UW1.

The price isn't the issue. The issue is that it's garbage.
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You made a lot of words about "garbage", but you didn't tell us why you think it's garbage.
Mike57000 said:
A phone with this old horrible notch in 2025? (till.. 2028?) : It's a no go of course !
And don't remind me this notch is also on my MacBook Pro M1. I've tried to get used of it several weeks, but no : I just can't work without being disturbed. I'm using TopNotch to make it disappear, waiting for a new MacBookPro design next year. I don't know if the same exist for iOS to tolerate this major design flaw.
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If it's not about Jobs and Ive, it's about the notch!
ayephoner said:
...This is not a phone for power users (the SE series never was). this is a phone for elderly people, children, and people that don't use their phone much, don't care about specs much, and just want a nice, stable phone that they can keep for 5+ years. If it doesn't make sense for you, just don't buy it...
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Hey, mind your manners! The fact is, today's "elderly people" cut their teeth on assembler and COBOL code. They got brain damage by learning PL/1 and RPG! Then they wrote the code that allowed NASA to go to the moon, and for the Hubble telescope to actually make useful images of something other than cats. They wrote the code and built the devices that kept you alive when you were an infant in the ICU.

And a fair percentage of them were more than involved in writing the underpinnings of Windows, Mac, Linux, and Unix, as well as the variations of those that run all manner of test and diagnostic equipment currently running in hospitals, schools, automobile repair service centers, and aerospace-defense companies.

They created Alexa, Siri, and a whole host of imitators. And they gave Siri the ability to find you a recipe while simultaneously planning, executing, and covering up your murder by making it look like a freak accident.

Not power users, hah!

Some of today's "elderly people" are the power users of the 70s thru the 00s. Modern computing wouldn't be modern without these "not power users". ;)

Oops, I think I hear Siri calling you from the kitchen...she wants you to mix a couple of things together and do a taste-test. Good luck!
 
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I do wish they had put a hole pin camera in it and TouchID on the side button. Better solution. FaceID ruins the user experience until they can hide it under the display. So tired of looking at islands and notches.
 
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ChrisMac47 said:
The 16e is just too big and heavy If Steve were still alive, and Jony back at Apple, we would have a fabulous small one-handed-operation SE4 ... it would look a million dollars and sell like hotcakes.
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As a 13 mini fan the world and tech has moved on from 3.5 in screens. Ya let me use a 3.5 in device to shop on target. That sounds fun or reading news. Nah it’s a different world demo 2007.
 
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Flight Plan said:
Hey, mind your manners! The fact is, today's "elderly people" cut their teeth on assembler and COBOL code. They got brain damage by learning PL/1 and RPG! Then they wrote the code that allowed NASA to go to the moon, and for the Hubble telescope to actually make useful images of something other than cats. They wrote the code and built the devices that kept you alive when you were an infant in the ICU.

And a fair percentage of them were more than involved in writing the underpinnings of Windows, Mac, Linux, and Unix, as well as the variations of those that run all manner of test and diagnostic equipment currently running in hospitals, schools, automobile repair service centers, and aerospace-defense companies.

They created Alexa, Siri, and a whole host of imitators. And they gave Siri the ability to find you a recipe while simultaneously planning, executing, and covering up your murder by making it look like a freak accident.

Not power users, hah!

Some of today's "elderly people" are the power users of the 70s thru the 00s. Modern computing wouldn't be modern without these "not power users". ;)

Oops, I think I hear Siri calling you from the kitchen...she wants you to mix a couple of things together and do a taste-test. Good luck!
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These are great points and I appreciate you bringing them up.
Being in my 60’s I can relate. Most of us use computers and smartphones for what they were intended for, being productive. Being efficient. Watching TikTok videos all day does not make one an expert. 😉
 
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throAU said:
Coming from 13 mini Logic:
The 16e is missing too many things so ruled out
No iPhone is small enough for one handed operation now so may as well go plus size for more battery
Once you get to 16 plus price the step to pro max isn’t huge.

I can afford any phone I want outright.
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ha ha that is exactly why 16e is designed like this. Having a price closed to all iPhones more expensive than it, then people like you would think: ho, paying so much still lack so many functions, why not buy regular 16 or whatever. Then the pro is similar price as plus, why not buy the pro mix

ha ha
 
drugdoubles said:
A lot of people complain about 16e pricing while their bodies are moving to the Apple Store to buy one or more 16e once it is available.

16e should be one of the top 3 best selling phones. Very simple, a XR with a name sounds better, a big Apple logo on the back.
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It is not an XR. The XR didn't have PWM issues.

The 16e will be the biggest flop after the 5c. As MKBHD states, it is a phone that nobody asked for at a price that makes no sense.
 
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ghanwani said:
It is not an XR. The XR didn't have PWM issues.

The 16e will be the biggest flop after the 5c. As MKBHD states, it is a phone that nobody asked for at a price that makes no sense.
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That depends on the metrics you are using to define “flop”. If it hurts Apple’s overall sales, maybe, otherwise I don’t think you can predict this.
 
ghanwani said:
It is not an XR. The XR didn't have PWM issues.

The 16e will be the biggest flop after the 5c. As MKBHD states, it is a phone that nobody asked for at a price that makes no sense.
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Apple have a good track record of releasing products that the market buys with very few exceptions…
 
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ayephoner said:
I'm not sure how pricing is set, but in the US the 16e is 17% cheaper than the regular 15.

An while you're right about the compromises, it also has some areas where it's better. It has apple intelligence, it has an A18 chip set, a better battery life, and probably most important; will get a couple more years of support than the regular 15.

This is not a phone for power users (the SE series never was). this is a phone for elderly people, children, and people that don't use their phone much, don't care about specs much, and just want a nice, stable phone that they can keep for 5+ years. If it doesn't make sense for you, just don't buy it...
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True true true. But it still is 100-125$ too expensive. Not because you are "elderly people, children, and people that don't use their phone much, don't care about specs much, and just want a nice, stable phone that they can keep for 5+ years" that you're dumb enough no to see the overpriced thing. I'm a buyer but not at that price. Love Apple products since day one but not crazy enough to throw my money out of the window.
 
Racineur said:
True true true. But it still is 100-125$ too expensive. Not because you are "elderly people, children, and people that don't use their phone much, don't care about specs much, and just want a nice, stable phone that they can keep for 5+ years" that you're dumb enough no to see the overpriced thing. I'm a buyer but not at that price. Love Apple products since day one but not crazy enough to throw my money out of the window.
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Good for you but you are not the majority, you are one person. You do you.
 
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