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burgman

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Exactly, I have been doing it for awhile and never had data issues. I think they just want to know what device you have as well. Like the other day when i picked up my Nexus 6, I went to AT&T and got a sim card and left the Nexus 6 in the car. I walked in and asked for a sim and the rep told me to go and get my phone. I told him that it was an unlocked device and he needed to activate the phone...I just gave him a blank stare and went and got my phone.
When I was on AT&T and did that every thing was fine except mobile Hotspot wouldn't work until I did a chat and registered the IMEI.
 

Dmaynard83

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It may be a very good phone for the price but my experience here is that lots of folks don't care for a "mid priced plus tier" performer which reviews seem to indicate in my browsing this morning, they want flagship quality and are willing to spend to get it.

Battery life
Screen quality
Camera quality with low lighting
Overall Performance

These were the bigger issues in the reviews I browsed versus the higher priced flagships , I really don't want a mid priced plus tier performer with what has been accomplished up to this point with some really nice flagships lately and don't mind spending more and being happier with those.

The thing is this mid priced phone does compete with the flagships, with almost half the price.
 

spriter

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The thing is this mid priced phone does compete with the flagships, with almost half the price.
I'd say it kinda completes which is good enough for most people, and considering the price tag, it'll always get concessions allowed.

But, for me, no fingerprint scanner is a clear sign (or not) of a flagship these days. I'd take something I use every time I pick up the phone ahead of those speakers any day.

I'd also be expecting OIS and a more premium build that is mostly metal and/or glass (wood just doesn't cut it). The jury is still out on the battery and camera, too.

But, as I said above, it does most things that most people need so should sell well. However, even if they keep with plastic or wood and forego OIS next year, I'm sure ignoring the fingerprint scanner again would be a bad, bad move. Trouble is, they'd have to lose the speaker, have a monster chin, or shove it on the back so you have to always pick it up (really bad move... Hello Nexus).

I'm inclined to agree with AppleRobert in that after trying wannabe flagships and being 80-90% satisfied, I'd rather pay up to get the big dogs and not be wishing down the line.
 

AppleRobert

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The thing is this mid priced phone does compete with the flagships, with almost half the price.

Not from what I've read in the reviews, I will obviously defer to actual user reviews though when more start rolling in. But I already know from past prior experience here the things I mentioned above like battery life, overall performance, camera quality etc. will be an issue with many folks on this forum that post quite frequently.

I'm not saying it isn't a better smartphone then the lower priced mid range smartphones (Acatel Onetouch Idol 3, Asus Zenfone 2, Lg Stylo, etc) as it is a higher quality mid ranger but if Joe/Jane is looking for good enough then those mentioned suffice at a lower price. Wanting better and a "flagship" which Motorola deems this, reviews say look elsewhere cause this ain't it compared to the top doggies in the recent past and currently.
 
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nfl46

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I have finally decided on which one I will keep: Nexus 6 or Moto X PE.

I've used the N6 for over a week, put Android M on it and its been solid.

I've used the Moto X for three days or so, and I definitely see the potential once the dev community gets to working on this device.

Ultimately, I am choosing the Moto X PE. I will be paying an extra $50 more (compared to the N6) for it but overall, it'd fit me better.

Three things to tip me over to choose the Moto X:

Camera
Moto X software enhancements
Smaller footprint (this thing feels great in the hand. I can even use it with one hand compared to the wide N6)

In the past month I've had these Android phones:

N6
Moto X PE
Idol 3
ZenFone 2

My favorite is the Moto X.
 
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Dmaynard83

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Not from what I've read in the reviews, I will obviously defer to actual user reviews though when more start rolling in. But I already know from past prior experience here the things I mentioned above like battery life, overall performance, camera quality etc. will be an issue with many folks on this forum that post quite frequently.

I'm not saying it isn't a better smartphone then the lower priced mid range smartphones (Acatel Onetouch Idol 3, Asus Zenfone 2, Lg Stylo, etc) as it is a higher quality mid ranger but if Joe/Jane is looking for good enough then those mentioned suffice at a lower price. Wanting better and a "flagship" which Motorola deems this, reviews say look elsewhere cause this ain't it compared to the top doggies in the recent past and currently.

I had an iPhone 6 before I tried the note 5 for 2 weeks, which I ended up returning.

So coming from a note 5 and iPhone 6 I think I can say the moto x competes with them and in my opinion is at least better than the note 5. TW makes the note 5 a really ****** experience with the all the stuttering, also the lock screen is horrid on the note 5.

It's hard to compare it against the iPhone because they are two different OS's. You get more customization with the moto x pure and more google integration, but the iPhone has a quality app store, fingerprint sensor, iMessage, and few other apple only items.

Anyways, I don't think we should even be putting samsung devices on the top 3 because the horrible software, but that's just me.
 

mel823

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Not from what I've read in the reviews, I will obviously defer to actual user reviews though when more start rolling in. But I already know from past prior experience here the things I mentioned above like battery life, overall performance, camera quality etc. will be an issue with many folks on this forum that post quite frequently.

I'm not saying it isn't a better smartphone then the lower priced mid range smartphones (Acatel Onetouch Idol 3, Asus Zenfone 2, Lg Stylo, etc) as it is a higher quality mid ranger but if Joe/Jane is looking for good enough then those mentioned suffice at a lower price. Wanting better and a "flagship" which Motorola deems this, reviews say look elsewhere cause this ain't it compared to the top doggies in the recent past and currently.

May I ask which reviews because to my knowledge they were no review units give out for the Moto X.
 

Dmaynard83

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May I ask which reviews because to my knowledge they were no review units give out for the Moto X.

The verge gave it an 8.6, but said its not a flagship oddly. Most people are waiting for MKBHD and anantech for their review on the moto x.
 

MRU

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The verge gave it an 8.6, but said its not a flagship oddly. Most people are waiting for MKBHD and anantech for their review on the moto x.


It's the Verge. It scores very close to the Note 5 & S6 Edge review score wise.


Lisa from Mobile tech review

Very positive

 

mel823

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The verge gave it an 8.6, but said its not a flagship oddly. Most people are waiting for MKBHD and anantech for their review on the moto x.

Never cared for either The Verge and anantech so their reviews mean nothing to me.
 

AppleRobert

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It's the Verge. It scores very close to the Note 5 & S6 Edge review score wise.


Lisa from Mobile tech review

Very positive


I skipped forward a few times reading her review this afternoon but it wasn't as in depth as I would have hoped so waiting on some others.

I could get one tomorrow if I want to.
I had an iPhone 6 before I tried the note 5 for 2 weeks, which I ended up returning.

So coming from a note 5 and iPhone 6 I think I can say the moto x competes with them and in my opinion is at least better than the note 5. TW makes the note 5 a really ****** experience with the all the stuttering, also the lock screen is horrid on the note 5.

It's hard to compare it against the iPhone because they are two different OS's. You get more customization with the moto x pure and more google integration, but the iPhone has a quality app store, fingerprint sensor, iMessage, and few other apple only items.

Anyways, I don't think we should even be putting samsung devices on the top 3 because the horrible software, but that's just me.

Appreciate your viewpoint, thanks much. Waiting on others to chime in.
 

AppleRobert

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My thoughts are it is a step above the Moto X 2014 and a step below the Nexus 6, both of which I own so where would I get a benefit has me pondering other than the Pure being easier to handle than the N6. And I don't give two crickets about the camera. :)
 

MRU

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My thoughts are it is a step above the Moto X 2014 and a step below the Nexus 6, both of which I own so where would I get a benefit has me pondering other than the Pure being easier to handle than the N6. And I don't give two crickets about the camera. :)

How is it a step below the N6 ?
 

nfl46

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Day 1 and 2 I got 4 hours SOT.

Day 3: 5 hours +!

Woot!!!!!!

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AppleRobert

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How is it a step below the N6 ?

Well for one thing I don't think it is going to be the performance champ the Nexus 6 is, the N6 should get the updates lickety split and I do not feel the screen quality will be as good.

All assumptions until I use one but I am pretty sure comparisons made in reviews I read had the N6 as one of the flagships the Pure falls short of.

The biggest benefit would be ergonomics which many folks are alluding to on xda that have tried both.
 

Lava Lamp Freak

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Well for one thing I don't think it is going to be the performance champ the Nexus 6 is, the N6 should get the updates lickety split and I do not feel the screen quality will be as good.

All assumptions until I use one but I am pretty sure comparisons made in reviews I read had the N6 as one of the flagships the Pure falls short of.

The biggest benefit would be ergonomics which many folks are alluding to on xda that have tried both.

I should have my Pure in a few days, but I'm about to return my recently purchased N6 to BB today. I like the size of the N6, but I don't like the saturation and brightness of the AMOLED screen. So, I certainly hope the screen on the X isn't a step down, but I prefer LCD to AMOLED.

My only real concern is the speed of the 808 vs the 805.
 

MRU

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Well for one thing I don't think it is going to be the performance champ the Nexus 6 is, the N6 should get the updates lickety split and I do not feel the screen quality will be as good.

I actually don't think the N6 has the greatest screen in the world tbh. I find it's poorly colour calibrated and it's absolutely useless outdoors in daylight. I'm hoping going to LCD with the Style/Pure we will get more colour accurate colours (if less saturated which personally I prefer as I think Moto X 2014 & N6 were too saturated and very yellow in white balance) and that outdoor visibility will be aided by switch to LCD. Many times I've taken my N6 to the beach to take photos and it's a physical struggle to see the screen, I'm almost shooting blind.
 

AppleRobert

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I actually don't think the N6 has the greatest screen in the world tbh. I find it's poorly colour calibrated and it's absolutely useless outdoors in daylight. I'm hoping going to LCD with the Style/Pure we will get more colour accurate colours (if less saturated which personally I prefer as I think Moto X 2014 & N6 were too saturated and very yellow in white balance) and that outdoor visibility will be aided by switch to LCD. Many times I've taken my N6 to the beach to take photos and it's a physical struggle to see the screen, I'm almost shooting blind.

There was a screenshot or review video somewhere but with all readings in this forum I forget which smartphone it was that showed it against the iPhone 6 plus and the Samsung S6. It had the worst yellowing out of the three, I just don't remember if it was the Pure that was referenced.

I am going to get it, BB makes returns real easy for me. They better with the business they get from me. I always like to try a device first before buying but that ain't gonna happen with this one.

Problem is resale value for the Nexus 6. Who will be interested in that one if the Pure turns out to be very very good, especially for the price. I'm screwed! :)
 
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MRU

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I've changed my mind !!!!


Ordered the 32gb Black Moto X Style .... decided as I'm going black iPhone 6S Plus (from my white 6 plus) - so as I've only ever had black motors - i've decided to go white / champagne with the Moto X Style so changed my order.
 

AppleRobert

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I read elsewhere the Pure is using almost 1GB ram with nothing opened after startup. My Moto X 2014 only uses half of that. And the 16GB storage has only 9.5 available. Anyone can confirm?

And why the heck would the system be using 1GB of ram initially?
 
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HiDEF

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Is the Moto X Pure edition an upgrade over to the Nexus 6?

Edit: A few things I'm hoping some can answer: how's the screen on a sunny day? Does it support VoLTE?
 
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MRU

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Is the Moto X Pure edition an upgrade over to the Nexus 6?

Edit: A few things I'm hoping some can answer: how's the screen on a sunny day?

I'll be snapping away when I get mine so outdoor viability will be one of first things I'll test. Yeah the n6 is awful outdoors.

Tbh, as long as it's got better cameras, better screen visibility, same speedy performance and is easier to hold especially width wise but still offer big screen size, not to forget expandable storage - for me that's enough to call it a worthwhile upgrade. Especially as it's cheaper then the N6 was.

I'm looking forward to getting it, hopefully sooner than the 21st.
 
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AppleRobert

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I'll be snapping away when I get mine so outdoor viability will be one of first things I'll test. Yeah the n6 is awful outdoors.

Tbh, as long as it's got better cameras, better screen visibility, same speedy performance and is easier to hold especially width wise but still offer big screen size, not to forget expandable storage - for me that's enough to call it a worthwhile upgrade. Especially as it's cheaper then the N6 was.

I'm looking forward to getting it, hopefully sooner than the 21st.

I can see folks going for it as an option to the N6 if they did not already own the latter and a bevy of other android smartphones. :)

Would you be happy with it minus the performance of the N6 and probably the Moto not equaling it as far as app refreshes go?
 

nfl46

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Is the Moto X Pure edition an upgrade over to the Nexus 6?

Edit: A few things I'm hoping some can answer: how's the screen on a sunny day? Does it support VoLTE?
I'd say yes since I recently own both.

Screen: I like N6's, but then again, I love Amoled screens. But in sunlight, Moto X was way better.

Camera: Moto X

Comfort: Moto X

Battery: Similar but I was getting slightly better battery life on N6 (probably due to me having Android M).

Honestly, the Moto X felt like Moto saying, "Let's fix N6 problems and create the Moto X Pure Edition."

If I had to recommend one of them to a person, I'd say: Moto X.
 

MRU

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I can see folks going for it as an option to the N6 if they did not already own the latter and a bevy of other android smartphones. :)

Would you be happy with it minus the performance of the N6 and probably the Moto not equaling it as far as app refreshes go?

Until I get mine I can't say definitively but I'm very hopeful. I preferred the Moto X 2014 over the N6 other than battery life & screen real estate. The 2015 Pure/Style looks to be perfect hybrid of the two.
 
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