New Control Center (Love it or hate it?)

[mattoligy]

As for the design choices that Apple has made, I have criticism.

Notifications and widgets need to be smaller and need to have an edge to edge design rather than this Apple Watch rounded corner look.

Control center needs to be customizable, and it's look should stay the same, the new one wastes space at the edges and ruins the beauty of the previous one. I don't like how the new one isn't edge to edge, I think that what makes most of iOS 9 beautiful.

The 3D Touch animations for notifications need to be more like the ones we've had for peek and pop.

Give the rounded corners a while to settle in, you might change your mind. I didn't much like them at first but I think they're rather nice now, and the space wasted is minimal!

Check out this thread in regards to notifications and space optimisation...
The state of iOS's notifications, and the steps Apple needs to take

 

[mrochester]

I'm the one who started the thread lol. I support bitching about this. It's this other guy who came in here to tell us to stop bitching meanwhile his post history is full of bitching. I was replying back to him using his own silly logic
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If that's the case, why don't they give night and dark mode its own seperate card/tab/pane/etc instead of the music player. That's the mind blowing part.

I can guarantee that the buttons pause/play/skip/volume are used 400X more than people will ever be clicking on night/dark mode.
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Why do I need a giant square with a music note?

Here is the simple solution. Replace "timer" with dark mode or whatever. Or get rid of the calculator. Or just let us customize our control center. Easy, done, everyone is happy.

But no, Apple is hell bent on telling it's consumers what they should like. Album art- no, we don't care about that. We don't want it in our control center.

Apple 'told' you to like the control centre as it is now. How is that any different to Apple 'telling' you to like the new control centre?

 

[BeeGood]

Apple 'told' you to like the control centre as it is now. How is that any different to Apple 'telling' you to like the new control centre?

Because the ends shouldn't justify the means.

"Getting it right " in control center 1.0 doesn't validade their approach of giving zero user choice in what displays there. We wanted customizable toggles then, and we still want them.

 

[mrochester]

Because the ends shouldn't justify the means.

"Getting it right " in control center 1.0 doesn't validade their approach of giving zero user choice in what displays there. We wanted customizable toggles then, and we still want them.

But they didn't get it right in control centre 1.0 either, hence the revision now.

The point I'm trying to make is that things change all the time and you might as well just adapt and go along for the ride; it saves yourself so much hassle.

 

[BeeGood]

But they didn't get it right in control centre 1.0 either, hence the revision now.

The point I'm trying to make is that things change all the time and you might as well just adapt and go along for the ride; it saves yourself so much hassle.

This revision doesn't correct anything. CC 1.0 was fine. It's change for the sake of change. No one can explain how this is better, all I'm hearing is "they're paving the way for it to get better", which is an acknowledgment that, today, the beta is crap.

I don't consider voluntarily voicing an opinion about an Apple product on an Apple forum a hassle. I figured that's why everyone comes here.

 

[mattoligy]

This revision doesn't correct anything. CC 1.0 was fine. It's change for the sake of change. No one can explain how this is better, all I'm hearing is "they're paving the way for it to get better", which is an acknowledgment that, today, the beta is crap.

I would say they have changed the appearance of Control Center to better match that of other areas in iOS 10 such as Notifications, Today Widgets, Home Screen Widgets and Folders! Moving Music Controls to a separate pane was in my opinion, a step to introduce Glance esque Control Center pages which from what we've heard will be open to developers and will hopefully also include more stock "glances" such as Siri App Suggestions and other expandable Today View Widgets.

 

[CooKieMoNs7eR]

My 3D touch works with bluetooth and wifi

 

[lagwagon]

As for the design choices that Apple has made, I have criticism.

Notifications and widgets need to be smaller and need to have an edge to edge design rather than this Apple Watch rounded corner look.

Control center needs to be customizable, and it's look should stay the same, the new one wastes space at the edges and ruins the beauty of the previous one. I don't like how the new one isn't edge to edge, I think that what makes most of iOS 9 beautiful.

The 3D Touch animations for notifications need to be more like the ones we've had for peek and pop.

The new look fits way more inline with how app icons have rounded corners. Notifications and widgets also look more like OS X (macOS) windows but with the more rounded corners to match app icon corners as previously stated. Overall it fits a lot more together as a whole. (A lot more of iOS needs to be redone to match now)

 

[mattoligy]

My 3D touch works with bluetooth and wifi

Omg, how...

The new look fits way more inline with how app icons have rounded corners. Notifications and widgets also look more like OS X (macOS) windows but with the more rounded corners to match app icon corners as previously stated. Overall it fits a lot more together as a whole. (A lot more of iOS needs to be redone to match now)

Lots more attention needs to be directed towards toggle customisation and expansion now imo.

 

[CooKieMoNs7eR]

Omg, how...

Lol JK its just a jailbreak feature...

 

[mattoligy]

Lol JK its just a jailbreak feature...

You had me going then lol. Speaking of JB features, the tweak by Ryan Petrich called "Flip Control Center" was bringing user customisation to Control Center years ago! I don't think people should have to chase Jailbreaking to acquire this level of functionality...

 

[vertsix]

Lol JK its just a jailbreak feature...

go awai pls

you had us excited

 

[Shirasaki]

Customizable CC would be great but not a real deal breaker for me.
Sure, software need a good number of feature set to satisfy as many users as possible. What Apple does is: satisfy as many users as possible using a single feature set without enough options.
I don't like new CC, but also don't hate it. Music control is just one swipe away, not multiple swipes or even involve into button clicks. Heck, it has artworks now. I pretty like Apple promoting Music in Control Centre this way, although I hate new Music app with non-removable Apple Music stuff wholeheartedly.
Night Shift button is huge, obviously. It will be fixed in later beta. I don't really mind that huge button.
Integrating third party apps into CC has no difference on just 3D touching app icon on home screen. All we can do are the same, nothing more. Why bother? Putting some settings on that place would be cool though.
OK. Nothing much. Don't want to spend time reading the rest pages.

Yeah you're right, we are only the paying customer, we should follow this example throughout our everyday lives... No more menus in restaurants because the chef knows what is best for us to eat, no more cars on showroom floors as the manufacturer knows what is best for us to drive, no more looking at real estate before we purchase a house as the builders and estate agents know better where we should live! No more TVs on display, no grocery isles in supermarkets, we should all just wait in a line and get what we're given!

What a wonderful world that would be... I'm not entertaining this arrogance any further.

Your statement perfectly reminds me one thing: Planned Economy.
And it is bad. And that's why we have Market Economy.

Also, if you're currently playing music, the CC will default to the music controls when you swipe up (or at least it does on my iPad).

Nope. At least not on this beta.

 

[mattoligy]

Integrating third party apps into CC has no difference on just 3D touching app icon on home screen.

The Control Center can be accessed from anywhere in the entire OS including the lockscreen! And not all devices have 3D Touch! What about iPad users...

 

[iTom17]

I like the design of the new Control Center, but do think that - like others are saying - Apple should let us at least change a few toggles. I'd be replacing the rotation lock button with a 3G/4G button right away.

 

[Shirasaki]

The Control Center can be accessed from anywhere in the entire OS including the lockscreen! And not all devices have 3D Touch! What about iPad users...

However, apps pinned at control centre needs to be accessible on everywhere including Lock Screen. This means what? If I allow Twitter to be accessed in Lock Screen then everyone can check my twitter account, sent tweets, like tweets. This is simply horrible. You may argue "then we should use Touch ID or enter passcode", but after that, you eventually unlocks your device, having access to everything on your phone.
Just this point only, I can say such "customization" would better not exist at all. See those apps pinned at control centre: Flashlight -- just lights up LED flash, nothing. Clock -- setting up a few new alarms don't create even collateral damage. Calculator -- you can do what using just a calculator program? And Camera -- iOS only allows you to view photos you have taken, not every single photo in your photo library.
Apple would not allow this to happen, in foreseeable future.
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My 3D touch works with bluetooth and wifi

Are you still at iOS 9.0.2?

 

[mattoligy]

However, apps pinned at control centre needs to be accessible on everywhere including Lock Screen. This means what? If I allow Twitter to be accessed in Lock Screen then everyone can check my twitter account, sent tweets, like tweets. This is simply horrible. You may argue "then we should use Touch ID or enter passcode", but after that, you eventually unlocks your device, having access to everything on your phone.
Just this point only, I can say such "customization" would better not exist at all. See those apps pinned at control centre: Flashlight -- just lights up LED flash, nothing. Clock -- setting up a few new alarms don't create even collateral damage. Calculator -- you can do what using just a calculator program? And Camera -- iOS only allows you to view photos you have taken, not every single photo in your photo library.
Apple would not allow this to happen, in foreseeable future.
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Are you still at iOS 9.0.2?

Today Widgets can already be accessed on the Lockscreen via a swipe right so all the privacy concerns you mention already exist! This was true for iOS 9 also via the Notification Center, but, there was preferences in the settings app to remedy this and the simple solution would be to adopt this method again via similar preferences in the settings app to exclude third party Control Center Pages and or Today View Widgets.

 

[Shirasaki]

Today Widgets can already be accessed on the Lockscreen via a swipe right so all the privacy concerns you mention already exist! This was true for iOS 9 also via the Notification Center, but, there was preferences in the settings app to remedy this and the simple solution would be to adopt this method again via similar preferences in the settings app to exclude third party Control Center Pages and or Today View Widgets.

OK. Even though privacy concern already exists, look at how much things they can do on those widgets.
Plus: based on current implementation, those apps pinned at Control Centre needs to be a full app with all features, not something like widget. You can use a full calculator without unlocking the device. You can use a full clock app without unlocking device. You can use a full camera app without unlocking device.
Again. Apple would never allow customizing those apps without strict limitations. I would hope they can allow customizing those toggles though.

 

[Creek0512]

All of which can be disabled.

 

[mrochester]

This revision doesn't correct anything. CC 1.0 was fine. It's change for the sake of change. No one can explain how this is better, all I'm hearing is "they're paving the way for it to get better", which is an acknowledgment that, today, the beta is crap.

I don't consider voluntarily voicing an opinion about an Apple product on an Apple forum a hassle. I figured that's why everyone comes here.

They made it better by not having everything crammed together so tightly as it currently is. It increases usability as it minimises the chances you'll accidentally tap the wrong thing or inadvertently change another setting.

There you go, I've explained how this will be better.

 

[mattoligy]

They made it better by not having everything crammed together so tightly as it currently is. It increases usability as it minimises the chances you'll accidentally tap the wrong thing or inadvertently change another setting.

There you go, I've explained how this will be better.

But maximises the chances you'll accidentally tap the NightShift button

 

[mildocjr]

I like it but there are definitely some things I'd change like the too large night shift button. Instead swap it out with the flashlight button and separate the 3d touch intensities into 3 different buttons spanning the same area. That's more useful.

 

[BeeGood]

They made it better by not having everything crammed together so tightly as it currently is. It increases usability as it minimises the chances you'll accidentally tap the wrong thing or inadvertently change another setting.

There you go, I've explained how this will be better.

Didn't even know this was an issue, but if you say so.

 

[mattoligy]

"A new framework has been discovered in iOS 10, named “ControlCenterUI”. Inside of this framework is a class named “CCUICellularDataSetting”. When hacked to run inside of the iOS Simulator, it shows what amounts to an unmistakable placeholder." Source

It's fantastic to see work being done in this area and hopefully it paves the way for some form of personalisation in Control Center. Very good news indeed.

As a side note, another toggle crammed in to the same row proceeded bellow by huge banner buttons doesn't seem very logical but then this is only a beta and still being actively worked on so I'm pretty confident this isn't how the final UI will look. I'm guessing the new framework paves the way for users to add a selection of toggles that will form scrollable pages when more than five toggles are being displayed. I am very much looking forward to the outcome

 

[CooKieMoNs7eR]

go awai pls

you had us excited

Lol sorry
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Are you still at iOS 9.0.2?

Yes! I'll never upgrade till iOS 10 and the new iPhone drops!