Nexus X and Nexus P ( 2015 ) Smartphones

[MRU]

But what about the extra RAM used by 64-bit apps?

Why would they suddenly use extra ram ? Stock apps like calculator is hardly likely to make much of a difference, same with dialer, contacts, clock, messenger, or any other stock google apps. 3rd Party Apps much of a muchness too.

I don't see implication that a 64bit OS would need more memory than a 32bit OS ... Yes in theory it can access more memory - but 'accessing' and 'needing' are two very different things.

 

[Michael Goff]

Why would they suddenly use extra ram ? Stock apps like calculator is hardly likely to make much of a difference, same with dialer, contacts, clock, messenger, or any other stock google apps. 3rd Party Apps much of a muchness too.

I don't see implication that a 64bit OS would need more memory than a 32bit OS ... Yes in theory it can access more memory - but 'accessing' and 'needing' are two very different things.

Maybe somebody else can explain why 64-bit applications can use up to 30% more memory than their 32-bit counterparts. I can't really say why. I just know that they do. The only answer I can get is that the memory pointers are bigger, but I'm too tired to tell you what that means right now.

 

[nviz22]

I think 4gb would be overkill really on stock. Rarely has my N6 ever got over 2gb used even with a couple of games open and multiple other apps open.

Putting 4gb in to look good on paper whilst being no discernible difference to the end user would be pointless. They should put those efforts into camera, battery etc.

4gb actually can make under the hood benefits possible. With more RAM and 64 bit architecture, 4gb is the bare minimum to make the RAM worthwhile which increases battery life. Imagine how worse the S6 battery would be if it didn't have the 14nm Exynos? The ram on it is the opposite, but if laptop computers are standards, the general rule is the better the ram efficiency, the less work on processing cores.

As for the user, it gives them a future proof device for about 2 yrs since 64 bit will be a standard and the device can get all the latest and greatest updates without issues. Especially with app support once it moves to 64 but as the standard.

 

[apolloa]

Some more info:

Last year saw Google give the Nexus-phone nod to Motorola rather than returning to LG for a third model in a row, but to hear the rumors LG could be back in the running for 2015, with reports of a 5.2-inch handset in development. We’d already heard about some interesting hardware that could be on the table, like some manner of 3D camera, and now a new source further expounds on LG’s intentions for the phone, including where it likely won’t find inspiration.

The LG-made Nexus 4 took heavy design notes from the Optimus G, and though it divulged a little more, the Nexus 5 (above) shares a thing or two with the LG G2. That makes it easy to wonder if LG might draw upon the design, if not the internal hardware, of the G4 for for this new Nexus phone. But according to one source, at least, this is not at all the direction LG intends to take, and instead of arriving as some kind of G4 variant, the 2015 LG Nexus would very much be a phone of its own.

Now, just what that means so far as specs and things, we can’t yet say, though the theory sounds plenty compatible with that earlier talk about a 3D camera – there’s certainly nothing like that on the G4 we know today. But for info on what this direction for the Nexus phone’s design means for things like SoC, RAM, and more, we’ll just have to wait and see.

http://pocketnow.com/2015/07/07/lg-nexus-design

 

[robE89]

I really hope for a smaller nexus device like n4/n5 but improved. N6 is just way too big for most people and i really want the pure android experience.

 

[Cromulent]

Putting 4gb in to look good on paper whilst being no discernible difference to the end user would be pointless. They should put those efforts into camera, battery etc.

My priorities for a new phone are increased CPU speed, better GPU and more RAM. Obviously better battery life would be a welcome addition as well but that isn't so important to me. Having a decent camera is the least important aspect for me.

Perhaps I'm different but those are the features that interest me the most as an Android developer.

 

[robE89]

How would 4gb of ram be more beneficial from an android developer point of view since all other devices still have 2-3gb? Obviously you don't develop just for nexus. I still think that 4gb of ram is still somewhat useless and i would gladly mitigate the cost for 1gb of ram to other areas if it's possible. I agree that it adds future proofing but i seriously doubt it will be vital in the next year or 2, even most laptops come with 4gb of ram and it's OK for basic stuff.

 

[MRU]

How would 4gb of ram be more beneficial from an android developer point of view since all other devices still have 2-3gb? Obviously you don't develop just for nexus. I still think that 4gb of ram is still somewhat useless and i would gladly mitigate the cost for 1gb of ram to other areas if it's possible. I agree that it adds future proofing but i seriously doubt it will be vital in the next year or 2, even most laptops come with 4gb of ram and it's OK for basic stuff.

Yep I agree and can see the benefit on an OS like Touchwiz (on the S6) which runs over 2gb standing still, but when a Nexus device sits at around 400-600mb standing still - leaving well over 2GB free currently - I can't in all honesty regardless of 64bit overhead - see how an extra 1gb myself would offer a tangible benefit to the end user experience when the current memory is not in any way stressed as is.

Whereas a better screen - especially better outdoor visibility and again improved battery - would offer a realistic improved end user experience to all - not just the 0.1% of those who could possibly push the nexus to run over 3gb ram used in a developer environment ....

Now saying that of course - should it be 4GB then fair enough - no one will say no. But if they do go there, then I hope it's not at the expense of other elements of the Nexus device that would impact a majority of its users in day to day use such as those mentioned above.

 

[Cromulent]

How would 4gb of ram be more beneficial from an android developer point of view since all other devices still have 2-3gb? Obviously you don't develop just for nexus. I still think that 4gb of ram is still somewhat useless and i would gladly mitigate the cost for 1gb of ram to other areas if it's possible. I agree that it adds future proofing but i seriously doubt it will be vital in the next year or 2, even most laptops come with 4gb of ram and it's OK for basic stuff.

As an Android developer you need to develop for both the best phones on the market and the worst. If you have a device that returns more RAM available in the Dalvik heap via the getMemoryClass() method in ActivityManager you can enable more features due to more RAM being available. Likewise if it returns a lower number you can disable features to conserve RAM.

So yeah having a device with a large RAM pool allows you to test apps with more features than a phone with less RAM. Although I'm not sure it'll be that important for the app I'm currently developing having the extra RAM helps with flexibility in the future. Plus then I'd have a device with 2GBs of RAM (the Nexus 4) and a device with 4GBs of RAM (the new 2015 Nexus) which would be nice for testing.

 

[Cnasty]

Give me the sexiness of stock android on the N6 with some beautiful hardware like an S6/Edge and I am in heaven. I love my N6 but it is a pretty ugly device compared to most smartphones out there.

 

[gotluck]

I just want a nexus 6 but smaller

if they could continue to improve the camera, great

I think the only android phone i will buy in the foreseeable future is nexus, maybe moto or sony if they can really pull a surprise. I bought a moto e 2015 at bestbuy for $35 + $25 back in best buy rewards and moto is simply wonderful on the low end (for gods sake it cost $10, granted this is verizon prepaid phone model that also works on gsm), it's nice to have a phone I don't have to worry about. It also really makes me sad that a $10 phone has 5.1 while my gs4gpe is on 5.0. Pushing me to nexus...

Just give me stock android with updates, a good camera, nonphablet.. please!!

 

[OrangeInc]

If the nexus 5 had removable battery/storage and added capacitive buttons similar to the samsung galaxy series (without the physical home button) instead of on-screen buttons as to make the overall usable screen real estate larger plus a smaller bottom bezel, that would be the perfect phone for me. I really like the all black, covert design and the rubber back feels great in my hand. Very grippy.

 

[epicrayban]

Whre do you think a finger print scanner is going to fit into this new Nexus 5? Back?

 

[Fireblade]

https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/621209532610560000?s=09

Can't wait for this phone...

 

[gotluck]

hopefully the lg nexus gets the 820 too I would love it if they stuck with 1080p too

starting to get hyped, uh oh

5.7" kicks huawei to the curb for me unfortunately, unless it had virtually no bezel (even then I doubt I'd like the size) which I can't imagine is the case with a fingerprint scanner

 

[Tig Bitties]

Huawei Nexus leak reveals QHD display, SD820, fingerprint scanner
http://www.androidauthority.com/hua...qhd-display-sd820-fingerprint-scanner-625651/

The Huawei Nexus will reportedly feature a 5.7-inch Quad HD display with 2560×1440 pixel resolution. Also, the Huawei Nexus will be powered by a Snapdragon 820 processor.

Other than this, there’s not a lot of other details about Huawei’s Nexus. The rumour that both LG and Huawei are making versions of the Nexus has persisted for a while now and past rumours have suggested that the Huawei version will be the high end flagship while LG’s Nexus will be the lower end budget phone, available at a lower price.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Whre do you think a finger print scanner is going to fit into this new Nexus 5? Back?

I doubt the cheap low end Nexus 5 ( 2015 ) will have the fingerprint scanner. This will just be a cheap Moto G type Nexus device. The good high end Nexus will be the Huawei

 

[epicrayban]

I doubt the cheap low end Nexus 5 ( 2015 ) will have the fingerprint scanner. This will just be a cheap Moto G type Nexus device. The good high end Nexus will be the Huawei

That'll be a real shame and a terrible move by Google if true!

 

[Tig Bitties]

That'll be a real shame and a terrible move by Google if true!

Everything I have read, is that Google will release two new Nexus phones this Fall. One high end, and one regular phone.

All rumors and news have pointed to the perfect 5.7" sized Huawei as being the top dog, because Google wants to help them gain brand name recognition in the States, and Huawei in turn will help Google in China, get their Play Store going there.

The LG Nexus is just being made to appease the few fans that want a postage stamp size retro phone. The LG Nexus will have basic specs, not bad, but not great.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Huawei Nexus leak reveals the Android phablet of our dreams
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/07/15/huawei-nexus-leak-reveals-the-android-phablet-of-our-dreams/

We already expected the device to pack a 5.7-inch display, though that Quad HD resolution is new information. The device will also apparently feature a premium metal frame and Qualcomm’s upcoming Snapdragon 820 chip. The fingerprint reader is also news, though it doesn’t come as much of a surprise since it’s already a key feature of Android M.

We’re also expecting the new Nexus phablet to pack a 3500mAh battery, which should be more than enough to get you through the day. A reversible USB-C port seems guaranteed as well considering Google’s recent emphasis on the technology.

Rumor has it Google will also unveil a smaller budget friendly LG-made Nexus phone at the same time. The device allegedly packs a 5.2-inch display a 2700mAh battery and a Snapdragon 808 processor.

 

[gotluck]

The LG Nexus is just being made to appease the few fans that want a postage stamp size retro phone. The LG Nexus will have basic specs, not bad, but not great.

Haha

iPhone 6 outsells the plus
Galaxy s6 outsells the note

You may be right on processor specs but that'd be a shame, along with skimping on the fingerprint sensor being a shame

 

[epicrayban]

Agree. A real shame if the nexus 5 is geared toward more mid range with missing features. Would be a mistake by Google.

If true, it'll be the S6 until 2016. Small chance anything else will pull me away from it this year. The nexus 5 and iPhone 6s has the best chances.

 

[epicrayban]

But the Nexus 5 MIGHT come with 4GB RAM?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-t...agon-808-and-4GB-RAM-visits-Geekbench_id71611

 

[Tig Bitties]

But the Nexus 5 MIGHT come with 4GB RAM?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-t...agon-808-and-4GB-RAM-visits-Geekbench_id71611

The new Nexus 5 ( 2015 ) will still very much be an upgrade over the original Nexus 5 ( 2013 ). 4GB RAM is the new standard on all new smartphones the second of 2015, so no surprise there. But the new Nexus 5 will be a good solid phone, just not top spec's or the best hardware.

The super uber top of the line Nexus, will be the Huawei made version.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Huawei and Google: it’s more than just the Nexus
http://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-google-background-relationship-626062/

Interesting article. Seems like both sides really will benefit from this new partnership. I am very excited for this Huawei Nexus phone, they are saying it will have top of the line best hardware available at the time, and priced in between Nexus 5 and Nexus 6 range, so some are guessing this Huawei Nexus will sell in the U.S. for around $525 or so, but that's just rumors for now.