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When will the iMac be refreshed?

  • September/October Event

  • November/December Event

  • March/April Event

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craigrusse11

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I don't know, I'm not sure I want a screen that just kinda blends with its surroundings. I do graphic design for a living and I like having the 1 inch black separation between my monitor and the room. To me it puts more of a focus on what I'm doing. Reducing the bezels would look great when I walk into the room, so I get the appeal, I'm just not sure it's practical while working.

Again, a load of apple koolaid nonsense. . I'm sitting at work in front of two Dell 24" infinity edge monitors and the thin bezel is not making it difficult to concentrate in the slightest. If anything, i appreciate the fact the ultra thin bezel allows for the physical size of the monitor to not take over the whole desk and also pair them up closer.
 
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Release

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Gotcha. So the way you work is the way we all should. Thanks. You converted me.
 

Freida

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Again, a load of apple koolaid nonsense. . I'm sitting at work in front of two Dell 24" infinity edge monitors and the thin bezel is not making it difficult to concentrate in the slightest. If anything, i appreciate the fact the ultra thin bezel allows for the physical size of the monitor to not take over the whole desk and also pair them up closer.

I think he has a point. At work I have Dell screens and they have about 6-7mm bezel (from the screen itself) otherwise its edge to edge. I think that is about the maximum that is comfortable and even now when I look at the edge of the monitor (not the edge of the screen itself) then I can feel that my eyes work harder because they have 2 depths to work with. Seeing that the screen itself is just 6-7mm away from the edge + the fact that I don't really have anything needed on the super edge of the screen then its fine.

I can't imagine working with no bezel and have stuff on the edge constantly. I would get massive eye strain in few hours.

Others might not care but I feel this is actually ergonomic thing. So, Apple can reduce them and maybe have them like this Dell I'm using but no no no to edge to edge screen with no bezels at all.
 
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fokmik

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Gotcha. So the way you work is the way we all should. Thanks. You converted me.
Back at you...So the way you work is the way we all should work.. :)
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So, Apple can reduce them and maybe have them like this Dell I'm using but no no no to edge to edge screen with no bezels at all.
Yes, like on the Surface Studio...its still have thick bezels but not that thick
 

Release

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Hahaha, well played! I've never worked on the infinity edge monitors so they might be fine for me but I've never had a problem with the bezels on the iMac. I like the visual separation.
 

Fishrrman

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Release wrote:
"I've never had a problem with the bezels on the iMac. I like the visual separation."

Nor have I.
Look at the display -- not "at the bezel".
 
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CmdrLaForge

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I think the bezels are too big. The screen to bezel ratio just ain’t right. If Apple could reduce the size and increase the display at the same time would be great. I assume 5K on 30” would still look fantastic? Makes it easier to work with the machines.

Anyhow - looking forward to 2019 to see what Apple will do with Mac mini, iMac and Mac Pro and than decide which one to get. I am not in a hurry but want a new desktop for longevity.
 
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lishaoalox

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Apple, i will buy 2x 27" iMacs space grey with reduced bezels...so October, come sooner plz
At least each year we have a chance to wait for all of these updates in October.
Only the 8th gen CPUs update is enough for me though.
Hope to see what would we get from Apple this year.
 

fokmik

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At least each year we have a chance to wait for all of these updates in October.
Only the 8th gen CPUs update is enough for me though.
Hope to see what would we get from Apple this year.
yes, 8th gen is a bigger step than was the others, but i also love the BT5 and want/need it, 2T it would be nice but i can live with 1T, but i hope, since Apple waited this long, to have dGPU VEGA and not 580X
[doublepost=1534058965][/doublepost]https://wccftech.com/intel-9th-gen-coffee-lake-s-cpu-z390-platform-launch-1st-october/amp/
 

enc0re

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yes, 8th gen is a bigger step than was the others, but i also love the BT5 and want/need it, 2T it would be nice but i can live with 1T, but i hope, since Apple waited this long, to have dGPU VEGA and not 580X
[doublepost=1534058965][/doublepost]https://wccftech.com/intel-9th-gen-coffee-lake-s-cpu-z390-platform-launch-1st-october/amp/

If Apple gives us Vega, I’m thinking instant buy for me. A top GPU adds a lot to the longevity of a computer.

Clearly the real reason they haven’t released yet is that Apple needs the NVIDIA GTX 1180 to drop first. ;)
 

Lammers

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I think the bezels are too big. The screen to bezel ratio just ain’t right. If Apple could reduce the size and increase the display at the same time would be great. I assume 5K on 30” would still look fantastic? Makes it easier to work with the machines.

Anyhow - looking forward to 2019 to see what Apple will do with Mac mini, iMac and Mac Pro and than decide which one to get. I am not in a hurry but want a new desktop for longevity.
5K on 30" would look worse than the current 5K on 27" screen. It's extremely unlikely Apple would do that.
 

cwanja

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When was the last time Apple skipped a generation of processors, though? It would be odd for them to not release an iMac with the 8th gen processors.
You make a good point, but given that the 8th generation desktop CPUs have been announced for a while (8700K in Q4/2017 and 8700T Q2/2018), I would have already expected a silent update similar to the MacBook Pro update we recently saw already. The MacBook Pro processors (8750H, 8850H, Q2/2018, Q2/2018, respectively) were mostly announced earlier this year and already hit a product.
 

Zdigital2015

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When was the last time Apple skipped a generation of processors, though? It would be odd for them to not release an iMac with the 8th gen processors.
Think 8th gen in the 21.5” and 9th gen in the 27” iMac. Apple did this with the Broadwell 21.5” and Skylake 27” back when Apple introduced the 4K iMac. Apple skipped the Broadwell H-Series CPUs in the MacBook Pro 15”, 2015 was 4980HQ and the 2016 was the 6920HQ, and so never saw a 5th gen.
 

alien3dx

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Think 8th gen in the 21.5” and 9th gen in the 27” iMac. Apple did this with the Broadwell 21.5” and Skylake 27” back when Apple introduced the 4K iMac. Apple skipped the Broadwell H-Series CPUs in the MacBook Pro 15”, 2015 was 4980HQ and the 2016 was the 6920HQ, and so never saw a 5th gen.
even in second hand laptop windows i rarely see 5 or 6th gen. my rip acer 4th gen and mac mini also 4th gen. Now i'm really unsure even worthy macbook anymore or IPAD remote to IMAC in home if urgent. My samsung tab 7 is nice but for some extra work i think i need a bigger screen and good keyboard. I dam scare macbook keyboard nowdays.
 

fokmik

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So an October event for the imac mac mini and ipad pro (maybe also a sneak peek for the 2019 mac pro and apple display) could happen
 

Fishrrman

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There was a post in today's rumors section about the upcoming replacement for the MacBook, but to date there have been no rumors at all of new iMacs in the pipeline.

I'm beginning to think that there isn't going to BE an "iMac update" for 2018.
Looks like late 1st quarter 2019 or 2nd quarter 2019 at this point.

Speaking for my own needs, I'd prefer that they hold out until 2019, just BEFORE Mac OS 10.15 is introduced.
I'd like to see the new iMac as "the last iMac that will run in 32 bit mode". I have LOTS of older software that may be non-upgradeable that I'd like to keep using, and a 2019 iMac that can still run in 32-bit mode will "fit the bill". Probably for a lot of others, too.
 

Kurri

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I'm beginning to think that there isn't going to BE an "iMac update" for 2018.
Looks like late 1st quarter 2019 or 2nd quarter 2019 at this point.

I'm starting to think that as well. I'm not too familiar with the imac pro (introductory version) specs, but would the pro still be more powerful if the imac was a i9 with 6 cores?
 

Zdigital2015

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So an October event for the imac mac mini and ipad pro (maybe also a sneak peek for the 2019 mac pro and apple display) could happen
It could...but I think it only will as long as Apple has a separate event for the rumored 13" MacBook(Air) in October, which I strongly believe will happen for these reasons:

  • Rumors started circulating earlier this year and pointed to a WWDC launch, but then the news changed that the intro was pulled at the last minute. October/November is the time to launch to capture holiday spending dollars.
  • I do not want to say "desperately needs" when referencing a $1 Trillion dollar company, but the strategy of pushing the iPad to replace the low end of the Mac lineup has not panned out as upper management had hoped and they recognize that they need to refresh the lower end of the Mac for a for a variety of reasons, none which I will not spend time here outlining.
  • There is pent up demand from many Mac users unhappy with Apple's lack of updates, judging by the drop in Q3 Mac sales in the last earnings call.
  • Apple could simplify the lineup and clearly delineate MacBook from MacBook Pro, update the iMac to the latest and greatest and show us if the mini is sticking around or clearly dead. No updates would indicate to me that their Mac mini strategy is no strategy.
  • Education is not what it used to be and a shrinking presence there indicates the possibility of less Computer Science/Electrical Engineering professionals coming into the work force to continue to feed Apple's need for personnel/fresh blood to drive them through the next decade plus. A cheaper MacBook is needed whereas an iPhone or an iPad is not going to cut it for those students, period. They are also not interested in a 13" MBA that has 5th-Gen hardware, a 12" MacBook or the 13" nTB MacBook Pro.
  • Intel is slated to release 9th-Gen CPUs suitable for the iMac on October 1, along with Core X-series refreshes and possibly Core Y-Series and Whiskey Lake U-Series refreshes.
  • New iPhones, iPads and Apple Watch) need the spotlight for at least 30 days once they are introduced. So think mid- to late-October. That also allows Intel time to ramp up production.
  • It is a chance to show off the 2019 Mac Pro and display to whet the appetite of those professionals for whom an iMac Pro is not going to cut it, for those who have not jumped ship to Windows or those who are considering it now.
  • It is a chance for Apple PR to end the year on a high note by checking the boxes for every user segment they serve and prep for a MONSTER Q4 earnings call.
If Apple does not update any of its desktops going into the holiday season, I would be incredibly surprised. Not everyone wants a new iPhone (no), iPad (no), Watch (maybe), AppleTV 4K (no) or HomePod (hell, no) and I have a hard time believing that Apple wants to leave money on the table for users/customers to point in anyone else's direction (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Dell, HP, et al). I guess we will see.
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I'm starting to think that as well. I'm not too familiar with the imac pro (introductory version) specs, but would the pro still be more powerful if the imac was a i9 with 6 cores?
Intel will be releasing the 8c/16t Core i9-9900K in October if rumors hold true and it will be very powerful, which may mean there is some overlap with the base iMac Pro with 8-core Intel Xeon W-2140B. Intel is set to refresh the Core X-series, which may give us a 22-core Xeon variant this year that Apple could put in the iMac Pro and then discontinue the 8-core base in favor of making the 10-core the base CPU in the Pro.

Overall, the iMac Pro is more powerful than the Core-series based iMac for a variety of reasons. Until the Core i9-9900K is released and benchmarked officially, it will be hard to tell how close it gets to the Xeon W-2140B in the base iMac Pro. Should be interesting, nonetheless.
 

gusping

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The current iMacs can’t really cool a 4 core i7 properly, so can you imagine an 8 core version. Ouch. A new cooling syetem would definitely be needed, although knowing Apple, they won’t bother if the 2018 MBP is anything to go by.
 
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