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Basically think of Home screens as an app and App Library as an app, they have different purposes and usage. The Home Screen allows user customisable folders and can now hide screens that are not used as much. The App Library is an App Store category based indexing system. You can't customise categories yourself in the App Store, same applies to App Library.

There is no point in having the App Library do what you want with folder naming, as that basically is just what the Home Screen is, and therefore makes it redundant.

App Library isn't for you, you'll never be happy with it, so therefore just don't use it and move on and use customisable Home Screen folders like you have been, as that's all you want.

I don't have any use for the Today screen, and I ignored it and wasn't bothered by it's existence ever since it was added to iOS.

That said, it would be great if we could turn it off....
To avoid swiping to it I found tapping the dots works well...
 
That said, it would be great if we could turn it off....
To avoid swiping to it I found tapping the dots works well...

well, we’ve never had the option to turn the Today page off and I accidentally ended up there a ton of times when it was released.
 
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well, we’ve never had the option to turn the Today page off and I accidentally ended up there a ton of times when it was released.

Wouldn’t it have been good if you could have though? Having the ‘well we’ve never been able to’ mindset doesn’t encourage choice.

I still don’t know if i’ll find a use for the App Library as time goes by. It could be another maps, files, or Apple Music for me where it has a presence but is an annoying part that pops up every now and then. I’ve got widgets on my homescreen too and so far they’ve been cosmetic more than useful. It’s cool to try new things but not everything sticks.
 
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Wouldn’t it have been good if you could have though? Having the ‘well we’ve never been able to’ mindset doesn’t encourage choice.

I still don’t know if i’ll find a use for the App Library as time goes by. It could be another maps, files, or Apple Music for me where it has a presence but is an annoying part that pops up every now and then. I’ve got widgets on my homescreen too and so far they’ve been cosmetic more than useful. It’s cool to try new things but not everything sticks.

Yes, but after all this time, and feeding it back to Apple, it’s never happened, so I’m being realistic.

Widgets will be better when we get third party ones on release.
 
Yes, but after all this time, and feeding it back to Apple, it’s never happened, so I’m being realistic.

Widgets will be better when we get third party ones on release.

Hopefully and the thing I like about widgets is you don’t have to see them if you don’t want to. I’ve now got the terrible weather widget which is about 20% accurate and hoping there is a Dark Sky widget eventually. Hopefully Apple won’t take years to open this up to third parties.
 
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Hopefully and the thing I like about widgets is you don’t have to see them if you don’t want to. I’ve now got the terrible weather widget which is about 20% accurate and hoping there is a Dark Sky widget eventually. Hopefully Apple won’t take years to open this up to third parties.

seeing as Apple owns Dark Sky, and they’re integrating it into the stock weather app (albeit gradually), I suspect we won’t get a separate dark sky one. Anyway, that’s OT.
 
Wouldn’t it have been good if you could have though? Having the ‘well we’ve never been able to’ mindset doesn’t encourage choice.

I still don’t know if i’ll find a use for the App Library as time goes by. It could be another maps, files, or Apple Music for me where it has a presence but is an annoying part that pops up every now and then. I’ve got widgets on my homescreen too and so far they’ve been cosmetic more than useful. It’s cool to try new things but not everything sticks.

Interested in the part about Apple giving its users choice. I don't see that option happening at all.
 
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My main page is the clock widget, calendar widget and the weather widget...all wide format.

Clock is currently about 5 hours behind, Calendar is up to date and showing my next appointment (and I have appointments booked all day, so it is on the correct time), and weather is still showing 6 am through 10 am, but has been very accurate as far as the weather itself during the correct time periods.
 
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Hopefully and the thing I like about widgets is you don’t have to see them if you don’t want to. I’ve now got the terrible weather widget which is about 20% accurate and hoping there is a Dark Sky widget eventually. Hopefully Apple won’t take years to open this up to third parties.
I fully expect to see a Carrot Weather Widget at the end of September. May be NSFW, but it'll be there!
 
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Tried Weather Widget - States the right location but is not very accurate. Comparing it to Today Weather app and the little weather setup I have out front.

Tried Clock Widget - sorry but I gave up. It was more often wrong than right.

Tried Calendar Widget - It seems to work.

Tried Stocks Widget - Suffers similarly to the Clock and Weather. Less than useless.

Tried Batteries Widget - If there was a way to make is smaller and more detailed.

Tried Maps Widget - Not sure why but it burned through a lot of "background" battery.

Trying News Widget next ...
 
What i love about widgets is seeing just news widgets like the apple news app you can make it news for a certain sport or tech news. I love swiping and seeing news at a glance that’s why i always wanted widgets.
 
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Remember that iOS 14 is more of a "catch-up" release like iOS 12 was. Not much in the way of groundbreaking features and more about subtle improvements and solving problems.

After the mess that was iOS 13, we need one of these. Look to iOS 15 for the "wow!" stuff.

I feel like we've been saying this since iOS 8.
 
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I feel like we've been saying this since iOS 8.

And yet if you look at the differences between 8 and 14 there are many. Once a solid foundation is built with any company’s product, there is more of a slow evolution from then on out. Or there should be. Company’s that try to innovate too much shoot themselves in the foot because as people start to adopt their product, they scrap it and move on.
 
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iOS 14 hasn’t really changed my use in that I’ve found one widget that is remotely useful and an App Library that I don’t use.

I’ve realised my way of organising apps and shortcuts is better for how I use my phone anyway. Nice to have choice, I just wish you could disable the App Library so it doesn’t occupy that extra screen that I accidentally swipe to.
 
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Remember that iOS 14 is more of a "catch-up" release like iOS 12 was. Not much in the way of groundbreaking features and more about subtle improvements and solving problems.

After the mess that was iOS 13, we need one of these. Look to iOS 15 for the "wow!" stuff.
No idea where you are coming from. iOS 13 was great, not a mess and iOS 14 is perfectly fine. I am on beta seed so have been on it awhile. Nothing really to report it’s been working fine
 
Also for @MauiPa

13 and now 14 have had some issues despite an extensive beta run. IMO they both could have, should have gone much better especially based on the feedback to Apple from both beta runs.

Have to see how 14 is going forward. Here’s to hoping.

iOS 14 is much better than iOS 13 on my iPhone 8. I haven’t seen critical issues tbh.
 
Remember that iOS 14 is more of a "catch-up" release like iOS 12 was. Not much in the way of groundbreaking features and more about subtle improvements and solving problems.

After the mess that was iOS 13, we need one of these. Look to iOS 15 for the "wow!" stuff.

I keep reading this on the forums. What evidence is there to being a “catch up release” ? Has Apple said anything to validate that? Or because it’s devoid of what users see as nothing groundbreaking ?
 
I’m loving my SE (2nd generation); just been told that iOS14 is here: I don’t use Siri; I don’t really appreciate what a widget is (and with the speed with which I can open apps on this phone, why would a widget help) and I’m not fussed about memojis- and everything I’ve read in reviews of the new iOS is bad. Although to be fair - you’re more likely to write a bad review than a favourable one. But - is there much point to updating from iOS13?
 
I’m loving my SE (2nd generation); just been told that iOS14 is here: I don’t use Siri; I don’t really appreciate what a widget is (and with the speed with which I can open apps on this phone, why would a widget help) and I’m not fussed about memojis- and everything I’ve read in reviews of the new iOS is bad. Although to be fair - you’re more likely to write a bad review than a favourable one. But - is there much point to updating from iOS13?

Even if you don't care about any of the major new features, like App Clips, PiP on iOS, improvements to Messages and Maps, etc. - I would say Upgrade for Safari 14. Web standards continually change and the only way of getting a browser engine capable of the newer standards on iOS is with a newer version of iOS.

Also, there's no point in not upgrading anyway
 
I'm not loving the NFC reader thing that pops up automatically now when I tap my iPhone case with my transport (bus/train) card. On iOS 11 I had no issues. I'd tap my case, the iPhone would buzz as Apple Wallet would activate but the card would be read just fine. Worked fine for years. However since updating to iOS 14 the machine gives an error. Yeh, what the! How can that be possible. LOL .. ok, so on my phone I noticed that NFC reader thing was popping up. So it appears that when I tap my iPhone case now the iPhone is getting in ahead of my card and triggering the error on the machine. And there appears to be no way at the moment to turn off the NFC reader. :( Darn!!!
So now I have to open my phone case and ensure the card is tapped directly against the machine. :(
 
Even if you don't care about any of the major new features, like App Clips, PiP on iOS, improvements to Messages and Maps, etc. - I would say Upgrade for Safari 14. Web standards continually change and the only way of getting a browser engine capable of the newer standards on iOS is with a newer version of iOS.

Also, there's no point in not upgrading anyway
Fair enough - and thank you for taking the time to reply. I know I will update eventually, knowing myself as I do. I don’t use safari - I use chrome: basically my concern is - is iOS 14 stable now? Might as well have the latest OS - after all, I finally have a phone that can stay up to date...
 
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