Except that Apple doesn't offer a 3GB upgrade option on the MB. I'm pretty sure it can handle 3GB, but Apple doesn't offer that option in the Apple store.
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Except that Apple doesn't offer a 3GB upgrade option on the MB. I'm pretty sure it can handle 3GB, but Apple doesn't offer that option in the Apple store.
It can...but people who need 3GB RAM are better off buying it away from Apple anyway; they save a LOT of money...
yeah, i dont see how getting 3 GB of ram through apple will save any money.
just want to clarify something, if they do put santa rosa in the MBP, can we put 4 gigs into it?
just want to clarify something, if they do put santa rosa in the MBP, can we put 4 gigs into it?
Are you serious? The only real difference between the MB and the MBP is the GPU which doesn't effect audio. As long as I max out the RAM to 3GB I'll be fine. Which I plan to do away from apple anyhow.. Of course, even if I only upgraded to 2GB the extra 1GB on the MPB isn't going to make much a difference unless I get into recording in logic pro with more than 5 tracks recording at a time in real time. (which isn't likely to happen.) I do plan to get the 2.16 macbook, y'know.
I'm currently running an 8 channel firewire(400) mixer on a windows PC... A 1ghz windows PC. With Ableton Live and Adobe audition. 512mb RAM. If my ancient PC can handle it with only modest hicups then surely a macbook could do it smoothly, and *more*. I've been recording demo's/albums for myself and other peoples bands for years like this.
It can be slow, but it works. A macbook will be a godsend for me. I also run an alesis compresser and a tube preamp, nevermind that most of the time I'm never recording more than 2-3 tracks at a time anyhow, and playback isn't that big of an issue once you have it recorded.The macbook pro just doesn't justify the 2000+ pricetag when all you're doing is audio. It's the same once you upgrade RAM in the regular mb. I mean heck, I have friends who do larger compositions than I do on old iBooks.
The pro is for visual stuff. My only real decision is whether or not I wait the 6+ months for the next upgrade which will (hopefully) include a GPU boost. But I'm starting to think I should just buy it now and enjoy myself -- The GPU should be good enough for whatever I decide to do, even if (from what I can tell) being slightly inferior to the eventual santa rosa upgrade whenever the heck/if it actually happens.
I mean, I really WISH it had just a slightly better GPU, but you can't have everything. I'll still wait to order until after WWDC though, just out of curiosity of what they'll release there. I mean, unless someone wants to convince me to wait for the GPU upgrade. 
Just had to add this. I run a 17" PB 1.67 PPC and Logic Pro 6. I use a Motu 828 mkII for an audio interface, and also use a M-Audio Firewire 410 on the move. In my recordings I use a ton of plugins as well as amplitube, and other outside plugins. I never have any problems on my dusty Old 17" PB. I also used to use a a PC with Logic 5.0 and I had more problems with dropout with my PC then I ever have with my PB. So... To tell him that a Macbook "doesn't cut it", which already surpasses my PB in terms of performance is ignorant, especially since you say you run a pro studio on a pc.
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Hence why I said, if you are recording yourself then the Macbook is fine. The more headroom you have the better, plus I was saying wait for the new SR MBP not thinking that the MBs were just updated to the MBP speed basically. So in that aspect you are correct. I use a 2.8ghz PC with 3 GB of RAM and my 32 track sessions start running sluggish with all the plugins active. Maybe it's just Protools, maybe it's just my computer, but when I was in audio school, every teacher told me to go for the highest of the high end computer that I can get. When asking about the new MB, this was back a year ago, they said that I'd definitely need a MBP, I don't really know how much more power has been added since then. All I know is when mentioning a MB to my teachers/ some audio engineers in major studios they all laughed at the thought of it handling a big session/ arrangement. I am far from a Pro studio, nor did I even say I was a Pro Studio, I just said I record bands, double tracking, guitars, recording drums is 8 or more tracks alone, it uses a lot of CPU power and Ram, I mostly use Protools so I am speaking as a Protools user. But whatever, I have never used a MB to record, like I said, I am just taking more then one Pros opinion on the matter, I have yet to hear from one Pro say that they can record a full session on a MB unless they were doing an electronic kind of thing, like Rap.
PS. MB max RAM is 2 GB not 3, MBP maxes at 3GB of RAM which makes a huge difference.
PS. MB max RAM is 2 GB not 3, MBP maxes at 3GB of RAM which makes a huge difference.
GHz is meaningless, especially over the last 2 years, and even more if you're talking about a P4.
Max MB RAM is 3GB, whether or not Apple offer it on their store - the only reason they dont offer more than 2 is that the GPU potentially gains from having matched dual channel RAM.
Max MB RAM is 3GB, whether or not Apple offer it on their store - the only reason they dont offer more than 2 is that the GPU potentially gains from having matched dual channel RAM.
Maybe I am conflating Intel's different technologies, but I thought several of the recent computers to ship that had santa rosa also included Intel Dynamic Acceleration, is this correct? I was on Intel's website and it sounded like this was not associated with santa rosa, but rather the move to 45nm.
It's there in Santa Rosa.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/05/09/intel_santa_rosa_mobile_platform/1
Check further down.
I went to best buy just now to find a Micro SD 2gb card for a good price... and lemme just say, They do NOT have the BEST BUY...
Not 1 Mac computer in sight, no laptops, imacs, pros, nothing... not even accessories.
only thing they had apple were ipods.
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My mistake, that is pretty weird though. You would think they would offer the boost for more cash.
MB *can* be upgraded to 3gb, actually.
My mistake, that is pretty weird though. You would think they would offer the boost for more cash.
Thanks. There has been very little discussion of that technology in these forums, anyone have some views on what we might expect to see in relation to Intel Dynamic Acceleration in a MBP? I will wait a little and then start this as a separate thread if no one bites or it generates a good deal of discussion.
Well, theoretically, if you do the calculations, If one core is completely shut down, the other core should get quite a boost multiplier of the square root of two. That means a 2.4 GHz Merom will be boosted to about 3.4 GHz.
No doubt the actual speed boost will be less, as the other core is not completely shut down, but I would think that we should be looking at speeds kicking up over 3 GHz, if not over 3.2 GHz. Which will be really great for many programs.
AppleInsider has this report, also discussed on the MR thread in the news on the new MBP rumours.
Apple preps MacBook Pro updates, launches online outlet
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...cbook_pro_updates_launches_online_outlet.html
Apple preps MacBook Pro updates, launches online outlet
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...cbook_pro_updates_launches_online_outlet.html
Cool, AppleInsider basically saying 15" LED displays within the week. That's great news if true, and I'm very happy to be wrong about my previous "no-LED" prediction.
And did you see the 2ghz MBP in the outlet store for 1350? That has to be a sign that updates are around the corner. I'll go out on a limb and predict that there will likely be updates next tuesday.
And did you see the 2ghz MBP in the outlet store for 1350? That has to be a sign that updates are around the corner. I'll go out on a limb and predict that there will likely be updates next tuesday.
Ok guys, you know the drill, everyone jump on the 'next tuesday' bandwagon, then be bummed if it doesn't happen, say we told you so if it does, yada yada yada....
Next tuesday would be cool though
Next tuesday would be cool though
Ok guys, you know the drill, everyone jump on the 'next tuesday' bandwagon, then be bummed if it doesn't happen, say we told you so if it does, yada yada yada....
Next tuesday would be cool though
Definitely, that's our the Tuesday Standard Operating Procedure (TSOP).
The only difference now is that my confidence that something will break loose over the next two Tuesdays is higher than ever before.
Definitely, that's our the Tuesday Standard Operating Procedure (TSOP).
The only difference now is that my confidence that something will break loose over the next two Tuesdays is higher than ever before.
Yeah, same here.. I haven't been able to sit still since yesterday. This is really exciting stuff... The problem I'm faced with is, do I buy on June 5 (assuming it comes out then) right away and risk having something unveiled at WWDC -- including a possible coupon for Leopard -- that I would have wanted? Or do I wait until after WWDC, and risk having my order delayed for a long time due to waiting an extra week and therefore being way in the back of the line for a new MBP?
i'm having kinda the same issue, but then i remember my friend who ordered the original MBP a week after it came out
it arrived a month later. no thanks. not worth the voucher for Leopard.
it arrived a month later. no thanks. not worth the voucher for Leopard.
Totally agreed. This is the first time in a few weeks I've actually been really thinking something's going to happen.