OnePlus One

[jamezr]

What video are you talking about? Almost all of them said the phone was great, except the camera. Also there was a low speaker issue but that was fixed with the update. I'm not saying it's the best phone, but for it's price it's the best you can get right now. I do agree that they should have more available and invite thing is stupid.

The video a few posts above mine..... Shows some lag and other issues. Did you see it?

 

[bmt134]

The video a few posts above mine..... Shows some lag and other issues. Did you see it?

It wasn't lag. It's an issue with the home button. It's also not the final OS release. Cyanogen team has been awesome the past couple of years and I have faith that they will iron out the bugs.

LG G3 and HTC One Prime still are 2x the cost. They should blow the OnePlus One out of the water.

 

[jamezr]

It wasn't lag. It's an issue with the home button. It's also not the final OS release. Cyanogen team has been awesome the past couple of years and I have faith that they will iron out the bugs.

I agree with you about Cyanogen team. But also know this is a new release phone. You would think they would have tested these things out to make a great first impression. Then with all the hype and gimmicks in the marketing. It puts a rather large audience in focus for every little issue. I mean NEVER SETTLE right?

 

[Tig Bitties]

Yes....but what good is a phone for half that price if no one can buy it? Then they have all these childish marketing gimmicks to hide that fact that they cannot produce the phone in anywhere near the quantities needed to satisfy the hype they generated. If you watch the video review...the phone does not live up to the hype nor does it perform as well as expected. Because they are several flagship phones being released soon....the OPO will soon be just an over hyped phone that could have been something special except for the childish marketing gimmicks and hype. Soon the LG G3 will blow it away....then the M8 Prime....and so on.....

Yep. Every review I have read of the One+ One, say it's a good phone, not great. And I know, it's half the price of all other phones, blah, blah, blah.

But Oppo, I mean One+ doesn't market it that way, they say it has current flagship specs, top of the line, beating the new Samsung galaxy S5 and HTC One M8 hardware. But then why does it lag in areas, or have shorter battery life than expected, or the screen not as good as the S5 or even the M8, etc...

The One+ guys sold it on "Don't settle" meaning they went out of their way to stuff the top internals in the phone. They were bragging their phone would be a beast of all smartphones, the top hardware dog, the best spec'd smartphone ever.

But next week, it will be quickly outdated, with the LG G3, the One M8 Prime in a couple of months, all sporting higher res displays, bigger batteries, much better hardware, etc...

And then the worse part, how they are selling it, or rather not selling it. It's pretty simple. If you have a kick butt awesome new smartphone for sale, you make a website that allows to you click on it, then add to cart, and select purchase, and shipping method. Done.

Not some stupid, smash your perfectly good phone, or beg a forum buddy for an extra invite crap How bout, just sell the frigging phone online.

 

[jamezr]

Yep. Every review I have read of the One+ One, say it's a good phone, not great. And I know, it's half the price of all other phones, blah, blah, blah.

But Oppo, I mean One+ doesn't market it that way, they say it has current flagship specs, top of the line, beating the new Samsung galaxy S5 and HTC One M8 hardware. But then why does it lag in areas, or have shorter battery life than expected, or the screen not as good as the S5 or even the M8, etc...

The One+ guys sold it on "Don't settle" meaning they went out of their way to stuff the top internals in the phone. They were bragging their phone would be a beast of all smartphones, the top hardware dog, the best spec'd smartphone ever.

But next week, it will be quickly outdated, with the LG G3, the One M8 Prime in a couple of months, all sporting higher res displays, bigger batteries, much better hardware, etc...

And then the worse part, how they are selling it, or rather not selling it. It's pretty simple. If you have a kick butt awesome new smartphone for sale, you make a website that allows to you click on it, then add to cart, and select purchase, and shipping method. Done.

Not some stupid, smash your perfectly good phone, or beg a forum buddy for an extra invite crap How bout, just sell the frigging phone online.

Yep....by the time OPO...I mean OPPO gets phones in consumers hands....the G3 will be released and have better specs........and be AVAILABLE!

 

[JH-]

While I agree with everything you all have said about the detriments of the distribution and marketing scheme they have employed, the price is still very attractive. If I hadn't just rooted and modded my Nexus 5 I would probably pick one up.

 

[jamezr]

While I agree with everything you all have said about the detriments of the distribution and marketing scheme they have employed, the price is still very attractive. If I hadn't just rooted and modded my Nexus 5 I would probably pick one up.

But see there in lies the rub.........unless you jump through all hoops and do all the things to get an invitation. You can't just go buy one.....

 

[Tig Bitties]

While I agree with everything you all have said about the detriments of the distribution and marketing scheme they have employed, the price is still very attractive. If I hadn't just rooted and modded my Nexus 5 I would probably pick one up.

" I would probably pick one up " And how would you do that ? Where can you order it ? You can't, you need to beg some stranger online for an extra invite, and then wait in line for whenever your production is ready The price means nothing if you can't buy it. Well the One+ One isn't an option, because you can't even get it.

That's so stupid.

Basically, it's almost vaporwear in a way. Build hype for something that doesn't even exist, except to the very select few that get lucky enough to maybe get one. But Oppo know this phone will never reach the mass audience, they are just hyping up the new company name.

And by the time the One+ One is easily and readily available for all, the Nexus-Six will almost be out, for the same price, with much better hardware, nicer screen, and running Android 5.0 Liquorice.

 

[ichii]

That's very generous and I appreciate the offer. But all in all I'm due for an upgrade at the end of June. I'm gonna hold out for the iPhone 6. I have high hopes for iOS 8.

Why did you enter if you're going to get an iPhone 6

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The video a few posts above mine..... Shows some lag and other issues. Did you see it?

I think there was some issues with the OS, think there was lag with the home button, but it had to do with double tap option. I'm not saying it's a great phone, I just thought it was good for the price it's selling at. If the nexus 6 is release I would get that instead since that's a more reputable company. I do think they're shooting themselves in the foot for the stupid invite thing. The more they wait people are going to loose interest and get other phones.

 

[bmac4]

Yes....but what good is a phone for half that price if no one can buy it? Then they have all these childish marketing gimmicks to hide that fact that they cannot produce the phone in anywhere near the quantities needed to satisfy the hype they generated. If you watch the video review...the phone does not live up to the hype nor does it perform as well as expected. Because they are several flagship phones being released soon....the OPO will soon be just an over hyped phone that could have been something special except for the childish marketing gimmicks and hype. Soon the LG G3 will blow it away....then the M8 Prime....and so on.....

Are you kidding me? What are you talking about. Aren't you the same person that defended the S5 to no end? Is Samsung not doing the same thing? Over hyped marketing gimmicks with a phone that will be blown away (or already is by the M8 other than the camera) by the G3, M8 Prime, next Moto X, and whatever Google decides to do. I even think the OPO is better. This over hyped marketing should be nothing new to you.

 

[Robster3]

Are you kidding me? What are you talking about. Aren't you the same person that defended the S5 to no end? Is Samsung not doing the same thing? Over hyped marketing gimmicks with a phone that will be blown away (or already is by the M8 other than the camera) by the G3, M8 Prime, next Moto X, and whatever Google decides to do. I even think the OPO is better. This over hyped marketing should be nothing new to you.

Yep and Siri works well too:roll eyes: They are all coming out with gimmicks doesn't mean you have to use them.
I don't use Siri on iPad, s-voice, google voice or whatever its called, heart rate sensor, finger print sensor on S5 or 5S when i had it.

Geez my car has voice control only time i use it is to set up bluetooth on phones.

 

[bmac4]

Yep and Siri works well too:roll eyes: They are all coming out with gimmicks doesn't mean you have to use them.

I don't use Siri on iPad, s-voice, google voice or whatever its called, heart rate sensor, finger print sensor on S5 or 5S when i had it.



Geez my car has voice control only time i use it is to set up bluetooth on phones.

You don't get what I am saying. All you guys have been defending the king of gimmicks, but then some how this phone's gimmicks are too much? I don't get it.

You are right all phones have gimmicks, and I am not sure why the iPhone or anything. Apple was even brought up here. We are talking about android. Saying the phone is going to be blow away by the G3 is crazy too. Every phone you buy will be bested by another phone 3 months down the road. If you try to use that logic you will never own a phone.

The OPO is awesome phone that not many can get there hands on. That makes people mad because they want it, but not be able to get it make people mad and hate the phone. Tell me what gimmicks does this phone have that make it so bad?

 

[jamezr]

Are you kidding me? What are you talking about. Aren't you the same person that defended the S5 to no end? Is Samsung not doing the same thing? Over hyped marketing gimmicks with a phone that will be blown away (or already is by the M8 other than the camera) by the G3, M8 Prime, next Moto X, and whatever Google decides to do. I even think the OPO is better. This over hyped marketing should be nothing new to you.

LOL....you have no idea what you are talking about. You have no idea about OPO or shall we shall the lowend of OPPO. The two things are totally separate. Listen....you got beat to death in the other thread you are referring to. So don't hijack this thread to air your hate for Samsung.
Sales speak for themselves......being wrong in a thread....should be nothing new to you.......

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You don't get what I am saying. All you guys have been defending the king of gimmicks, but then some how this phone's gimmicks are too much? I don't get it.

You are right all phones have gimmicks, and I am not sure why the iPhone or anything. Apple was even brought up here. We are talking about android. Saying the phone is going to be blow away by the G3 is crazy too. Every phone you buy will be bested by another phone 3 months down the road. If you try to use that logic you will never own a phone.

The OPO is awesome phone that not many can get there hands on. That makes people mad because they want it, but not be able to get it make people mad and hate the phone. Tell me what gimmicks does this phone have that make it so bad?

You are so wrong.....no one hates a phone.... The marketing gimmicks used by OPO are childish and sophomoric. They can't produce the phone in any quantities that match the hype they created. They cannot make the phone in the quantities to match the hype and make any money on it as well. It is a half arsed venture at best. All the hype and by the time the general public actually get this phone it will be outdated by the current flagships phones. Yeah nice flagship killer! Don't Settle....for the OPO because their are too many better ones.

 

[mattopotamus]

" I would probably pick one up " And how would you do that ? Where can you order it ? You can't, you need to beg some stranger online for an extra invite, and then wait in line for whenever your production is ready The price means nothing if you can't buy it. Well the One+ One isn't an option, because you can't even get it.

That's so stupid.

Basically, it's almost vaporwear in a way. Build hype for something that doesn't even exist, except to the very select few that get lucky enough to maybe get one. But Oppo know this phone will never reach the mass audience, they are just hyping up the new company name.

And by the time the One+ One is easily and readily available for all, the Nexus-Six will almost be out, for the same price, with much better hardware, nicer screen, and running Android 5.0 Liquorice.

pretty much hit the nail on the head. They are losing out on tons of sales. Granted, they are probably doing this b.c they have hardly any available, and in their minds an invite system is better than the nexus 4 style launch. Either way, new phones will be out by time this is easily purchased.

 

[bmac4]

LOL....you have no idea what you are talking about. You have no idea about OPO or shall we shall the lowend of OPPO. The two things are totally separate. Listen....you got beat to death in the other thread you are referring to. So don't hijack this thread to air your hate for Samsung.

Sales speak for themselves......being wrong in a thread....should be nothing new to you.......

Alright buddy. I believe you are the one that hijacked this thread with garbage about marketing gimmicks. This thread is here to talk about the OPO. Why you bothered posting about marketing gimmicks, and how the G3 will blow it away is beyond me. I believe you are one of the ones that got mad at someone for posting negative things about the S5 in the S5 thread.

So what two things are separate? You say OPO has a marketing gimmick. If in that you are referring to the invite system sure it's marketing gimmicks to get hype up, but so it putting a heart rate censor on the back of the S5. All Samsung ads are built around all these cool things the S5 can do. Rather than throw a bunch of features at a phone to get hype. The OPO decided an invite system could produce some hype. Seems to me the two are trying to archive the same thing.

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LOL....you have no idea what you are talking about. You have no idea about OPO or shall we shall the lowend of OPPO. The two things are totally separate. Listen....you got beat to death in the other thread you are referring to. So don't hijack this thread to air your hate for Samsung.

Sales speak for themselves......being wrong in a thread....should be nothing new to you.......

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You are so wrong.....no one hates a phone.... The marketing gimmicks used by OPO are childish and sophomoric. They can't produce the phone in any quantities that match the hype they created. They cannot make the phone in the quantities to match the hype and make any money on it as well. It is a half arsed venture at best. All the hype and by the time the general public actually get this phone it will be outdated by the current flagships phones. Yeah nice flagship killer! Don't Settle....for the OPO because their are too many better ones.

Really childish? This coming from someone that buys a phone that every single commercial the Samsung produces is childish. "Look at what my S5 can do, and you iPhone can. Look at how much bigger this screen is than the iPhone." There a attack ads. They never just try to sell the phone. It has to be a feature another phone does not have, or what they have is so much better. Seems childish to me.

Is Google childish for using the invite system for there new projects?

 

[jamezr]

Alright buddy. I believe you are the one that hijacked this thread with garbage about marketing gimmicks. This thread is here to talk about the OPO. Why you bothered posting about marketing gimmicks, and how the G3 will blow it away is beyond me. I believe you are one of the ones that got mad at someone for posting negative things about the S5 in the S5 thread.

So what two things are separate? You say OPO has a marketing gimmick. If in that you are referring to the invite system sure it's marketing gimmicks to get hype up, but so it putting a heart rate censor on the back of the S5. All Samsung ads are built around all these cool things the S5 can do. Rather than throw a bunch of features at a phone to get hype. The OPO decided an invite system could produce some hype. Seems to me the two are trying to archive the same thing.

LOL...you just like to argue....how old are you like 12?
Do this for all us that have to read your posts....just so you can defend OPO. Like you seem to really want and get all worked up. Have you read the rest of this thread at all?

GO BUY THE PHONE. Go get a invite...enter all the contests....come back and give us a review. there you go! See you....run along now.....let the adults have a discussion.

 

[bmac4]

OnePlus One

LOL...you just like to argue....how old are you like 12?

Do this for all us that have to read your posts....just so you can defend OPO. Like you seem to really want and get all worked up. Have you read the rest of this thread at all?



GO BUY THE PHONE. Go get a invite...enter all the contests....come back and give us a review. there you go! See you....run along now.....let the adults have a discussion.

Good for you. The same argument you try to use the last time. "You have no idea what you are talking about." You can't actually give anything to back your claims up. Just that I am wrong, and have no idea what I am talking about. Seems real grown up to me. Enjoy you S5, and enjoy hijacking each new phone thread that comes out so that you can justify your S5 purchase. It's ok we know you just spout off because you can't get your hands on the OPO. It will be ok though. Maybe one day you will get a chance to have one then you can stop crying about how terrible it is.

 

[spriter]

OnePlus One

Aside from the obvious price and availability debate, I'm more interested in their medium term plan and how they will make money to exist.

If selling the phone at cost price is true, and they don't appear (yet) to have a software-side revenue steam, what benefit is there to selling 20,000 or 1,000,000 units? Where does the money come from for replacement units? Are they really sailing so close to the wind?

The answer and intention to aggressive (cost) pricing should be for market penetration - gaining market share fast. But this falls down if you can't produce units in volume which looks like the case here. Tech moves so fast, I think they've missed the boat, lost sales and the chance to get established in consumer minds.

Sooner or later the money (profit) has to come from somewhere. And if there's not enough phones in hands to generate revenue from software then what happens? Either increase the hardware buy price which will bring other device choices into play or go out of business.

It'll be interesting to see just what OPO will do and how patient their investors are with a horizontal growth and profit line. They MUST have something in the pipeline.

I was really interested at first but lack of availability has put me off. As I said earlier, I'm more willing to pay significantly more for a device I can buy from a manufacturer that has some credibility with warranty and returns.

 

[jamezr]

Good for you. The same argument you try to use the last time. "You have no idea what you are talking about." You can't actually give anything to back your claims up. Just that I am wrong, and have no idea what I am talking about. Seems real grown up to me. Enjoy you S5, and enjoy hijacking each new phone thread that comes out so that you can justify your S5 purchase. It's ok we know you just spout off because you can't get your hands on the OPO. It will be ok though. Maybe one day you will get a chance to have one then you can stop crying about how terrible it is.

LOL YOU brought Samsung to this thread! Go get ready for school....now your are going to be late......

 

[fr4c]

Back on topic, I've signed up and entered in all possible outlets for a chance to get a golden ticket. Don't have high hopes but since I got free Starbucks coffee this morning maybe it's a sign

 

[jamezr]

Aside from the obvious price and availability debate, I'm more interested in their medium term plan and how they will make money to exist.

If selling the phone at cost price is true, and they don't appear (yet) to have a software-side revenue steam, what benefit is there to selling 20,000 or 1,000,000 units? Where does the money come from for replacement units? Are they really sailing so close to the wind?

The answer and intention to aggressive (cost) pricing should be for market penetration - gaining market share fast. But this falls down if you can't produce units in volume which looks like the case here. Tech moves so fast, I think they've missed the boat, lost sales and the chance to get established in consumer minds.

Sooner or later the money (profit) has to come from somewhere. And if there's not enough phones in hands to generate revenue from software then what happens? Either increase the hardware buy price which will bring other device choices into play or go out of business.

It'll be interesting to see just what OPO will do and how patient their investors are with a horizontal growth and profit line. They MUST have something in the pipeline.

I was really interested at first but lack of availability has put me off. As I said earlier, I'm more willing to pay significantly more for a device I can buy from a manufacturer that has some credibility with warranty and returns.

Those are great points. I wonder what their break even number of units would be. I wonder how many they have to sell to make a profit. Then when they start to ramp up production there will be several new flagships phones being released. By the end of summer they will be a distant memory. When the G3...Motto x+1, M8 Prime, and of course the IP6 are out...no one will remember OPO except for how flawed their marketing strategy was.

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Back on topic, I've signed up and entered in all possible outlets for a chance to get a golden ticket. Don't have high hopes but since I got free Starbucks coffee this morning maybe it's a sign

Good Luck! I hope you get one!

 

[bmac4]

LOL YOU brought Samsung to this thread! Go get ready for school....now your are going to be late......

Haha alright. Well enjoy your S5 until you find the next smartphone that is better. After you find that God help us all because there will be no other phone like it.

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Back on topic, I've signed up and entered in all possible outlets for a chance to get a golden ticket. Don't have high hopes but since I got free Starbucks coffee this morning maybe it's a sign

Best of luck. Let us know what you think if you get your hands on one. It seems like it could be something special.

 

[Switchback666]

I guess a lot of people will buy this over eBay.

 

[Dontazemebro]

Cmon guys, let's not turn this into the OPO forums. That place is a cesspool of dummies, add in some idiotic gifs and we're almost there.

 

[MRU]

Cmon guys, let's not turn this into the OPO forums. That place is a cesspool of dummies, add in some idiotic gifs and we're almost there.

Lol... This is so true