I will install a nvme also but for the other sata ssd: I want to make them faster. I need speed for music production…
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Sata 3 Card ok. There are sata 3 cards for like 20$ so I don’t want to buy it for this price. Why should I ? Sonnet is a good thing… but if not necessary I don’t spend more money.
Changing from SATA2 to SATA3 really only benefits sequential transfers while most of the time transfers are 4K random and even the best of the SATA SSDs never get over 70~80MB/s with QD4K.
So, most of the time being connected to the Mac Pro SATA2 is not the bottleneck that a lot of people think it is and only applications that use constant sequential data, like video editing, benefit from SATA3 cards.
Accessing an audio library is definitively not sequential. Anyway, this is not the correct thread for SATA questions, there is a dedicated thread for that:
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So, most of the time being connected to the Mac Pro SATA2 is not the bottleneck that a lot of people think it is and only applications that use constant sequential data, like video editing, benefit from SATA3 cards.
Accessing an audio library is definitively not sequential. Anyway, this is not the correct thread for SATA questions, there is a dedicated thread for that:
macOS PCIe SATA SSD Adapters (MP5,1 & MP7,1)
Wiki thread for compiling a list of confirmed PCIe SATA SSD adapters for MP5,1 with macOS. They're not as fast as NVMe, but they're widely available. Should also be helpful with options for transition to MP7,1 and (should) achieve faster read/write speeds with native PCIe 3 availability for...
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So if I want to install a sata3 card on pcie and a nvme pcie card (normal 1500mb/s) I could go for a normal 20$ card on Amazon? I wouldn’t need an expensive sonnet… or a raid card to get 6200mb/s…
Like this
ICY BOX PCI Express Karte, M.2 NVMe SSD zu PCIe 4.0 Adapter, Kühler, LED Beleuchtung, M-Key, 2230, 2242, 2260, 2280, IB-PCI214M2-HSL
Hinweis: m.2 NVMe (PCIe) SSD werden offiziell erst ab Windows 10 unterstützt. Bitte prüfen Sie vorher auch, ob Ihr MAINBOARD m.2 NVMe unterstützt oder ein BIOS Update benötigt. mit der Icy Box Erw...
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You don't want to go cheap with the card.
You need one with decent cooling.
Refer page 1.
Hi everyone.
WD SN750, simple M.2->PCIe adapter.
Sometimes I get wake KP:
Has anyone faced such problem?
WD SN750, simple M.2->PCIe adapter.
Sometimes I get wake KP:
Mac goes sleep normally, but sometimes can do cold boot instead of normal wake and give me the KP log. Sleep duration doesn't matter: can run into KP right away, can wake up normally after many hours.
Has anyone faced such problem?
Ok i understand. i didnt know that nvme can get hot... But the icy box is with a good cooling. Amazon rewievs said.
But one with better quality like the ,,aguacomputers Kryo´´would be better. Thanks to KeesMacPro for the advice! I now what i have to buy now.
One thing i wanted to ask.. i know i could connect a fan for the nvme on top but wouldnt it be always on 100percent fan speed? sorry for my english
Yes, since about 12 years ago.cMP could also install a 2½" FF SSD, like a Samsung 870 Eco. That just plugs in like a regular HHD into one of the drive bays with an adapter like this:
ORICO 2.5 SSD SATA to 3.5 Hard Drive Adapter Internal Drive Bay Converter Mounting Bracket Caddy Tray for 7 / 9.5 / 12.5mm 2.5 inch HDD / SSD with SATA III Interface(1125SS)
ORICO 2.5 SSD SATA to 3.5 Hard Drive Adapter Internal Drive Bay Converter Mounting Bracket Caddy Tray for 7 / 9.5 / 12.5mm 2.5 inch HDD / SSD with SATA III Interface(1125SS)www.amazon.com
Lou
Another option to use 2.5" drives in cMP bays if you happen to own a 3D printer :cMP could also install a 2½" FF SSD, like a Samsung 870 Eco. That just plugs in like a regular HHD into one of the drive bays with an adapter like this:
ORICO 2.5 SSD SATA to 3.5 Hard Drive Adapter Internal Drive Bay Converter Mounting Bracket Caddy Tray for 7 / 9.5 / 12.5mm 2.5 inch HDD / SSD with SATA III Interface(1125SS)
ORICO 2.5 SSD SATA to 3.5 Hard Drive Adapter Internal Drive Bay Converter Mounting Bracket Caddy Tray for 7 / 9.5 / 12.5mm 2.5 inch HDD / SSD with SATA III Interface(1125SS)www.amazon.com
Lou
Porta SSD para Mac Pro. by jpo41
Porta SSD para Mac Pro.Se trata de un soporte de discos SSD para poder usarlos en un Mac Pro. El diseño es una remix del trabajo de cliffcheney, quien a su vez hizo un remix del diseño de CuriousExistence. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1630550https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:108912Es de...
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Cheap and fast ^^
The original and best are still available on Amazon (UK)
I have 3 of these in my Mac.
I have 3 of these in my Mac.
OWC Mount Pro - 2.5-inch Drive Sled for mounting a 2.5-inch drive in Mac Pro (2009-2012, Nehalem" or "Westmere" Models)
OWC OWCMMP35T25 - 2.5 Drive Sled/ 09-10 MacPro Model COMPATIBLE WITH Mac Pro 12-Core (Mid 2010-2012) (July, 2010 / June 2012) Model ID: MacPro5,1 2.40GHz, 2.66GHz, 2.93GHz, 3.06GHz Mac Pro 8-Core (Mid 2010) (July, 2010) Model ID: MacPro5,1 2.4GHz Mac Pro 6-Core (Mid 2010-2012) (July, 2010 / June ...
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"Me too" chimes in here. They are good pieces of a product if you ask me. Precise, and reliable to fit in there as promised. Much better than the 5,1 replacement caddies for 3,5" to new bigger capacity 3,5" HDD ones ever were.
Late to the party I know but that's the story of my life! 
Adding a 12-Core 2010 Mac Pro to my 'collection' and I know I will end up reading this thread from start to finish but in the meantime I would like to ask a question first if I may?
Am thinking of installing a Samsung 970 EVO Plus on a Silverstone PCIe->NVMe M.2 adaptor as a boot/system drive and have seen that later Samsung drives are now compatible. I also have some spare 850/860/870 standard SSD's kicking around and plan to install them in the drive bays using the OWC Mount Pro which look cool. My questions are as follows;
1. Is this combination a good choice?
2. How does it rank up there for reliability/performance etc. or would I be advised to look at something else instead?
3. Is there a preference for which slot the adaptor card is fitted into? Wouldn't waste the only x16 slot left after fitting the graphics card but does either of the two x4 slots have a priority or might be better suited to a boot drive?
4. Would this combo run OK under 10.13.6 High Sierra? Asking because my oldest iMac is stuck on High Sierra and I would like to keep them on the same OS if possible. Unless there's a huge advantage in 10.14-> of course!
End of questions...
Thanks & kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Adding a 12-Core 2010 Mac Pro to my 'collection' and I know I will end up reading this thread from start to finish but in the meantime I would like to ask a question first if I may?
Am thinking of installing a Samsung 970 EVO Plus on a Silverstone PCIe->NVMe M.2 adaptor as a boot/system drive and have seen that later Samsung drives are now compatible. I also have some spare 850/860/870 standard SSD's kicking around and plan to install them in the drive bays using the OWC Mount Pro which look cool. My questions are as follows;
1. Is this combination a good choice?
2. How does it rank up there for reliability/performance etc. or would I be advised to look at something else instead?
3. Is there a preference for which slot the adaptor card is fitted into? Wouldn't waste the only x16 slot left after fitting the graphics card but does either of the two x4 slots have a priority or might be better suited to a boot drive?
4. Would this combo run OK under 10.13.6 High Sierra? Asking because my oldest iMac is stuck on High Sierra and I would like to keep them on the same OS if possible. Unless there's a huge advantage in 10.14-> of course!
End of questions...
Thanks & kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Welcome!Late to the party I know but that's the story of my life!
Adding a 12-Core 2010 Mac Pro to my 'collection' and I know I will end up reading this thread from start to finish but in the meantime I would like to ask a question first if I may?
Am thinking of installing a Samsung 970 EVO Plus on a Silverstone PCIe->NVMe M.2 adaptor as a boot/system drive and have seen that later Samsung drives are now compatible. I also have some spare 850/860/870 standard SSD's kicking around and plan to install them in the drive bays using the OWC Mount Pro which look cool. My questions are as follows;
1. Is this combination a good choice?
2. How does it rank up there for reliability/performance etc. or would I be advised to look at something else instead?
3. Is there a preference for which slot the adaptor card is fitted into? Wouldn't waste the only x16 slot left after fitting the graphics card but does either of the two x4 slots have a priority or might be better suited to a boot drive?
4. Would this combo run OK under 10.13.6 High Sierra? Asking because my oldest iMac is stuck on High Sierra and I would like to keep them on the same OS if possible. Unless there's a huge advantage in 10.14-> of course!
End of questions...
Thanks & kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
About your questions:
1. Yes, good choice but for the SSDs: use the EVO/ PRO models (850/860) avoid the QVO : they are known for issues and there are reports of issues with the 870 too.
The 970 EVO Plus is excellent , but only works in the MP with a firmware not older than ~ 2years .
So recently bought will be fine.
2.I've never had any issues with the afore mentioned drives , very reliable and good performance.
3. The card is x4 , so the slot doesnt matter . That said, slot 3 and 4 share lanes, so for optimum performance, I wouldnt install for example 2 of these cards in slot 3 and 4.
Might be a consideration to install the card in a slot not directly above a hot GPU.
4.To get NVMe boot support , you will have to update the BootROM to the version that comes with Mojave 144.0.0.0.0
After the BootROM update you can use the NVMe blade as an OS drive running High Sierra.
For a detailed guide on how to install Mojave and/or update the BootROM:
MP5,1: What you have to do to upgrade to Mojave (BootROM upgrade instructions thread)
Please fully read this first post, you will probably find that you have one or more problems described into the various notes below. Mojave will only install if you have upgraded your BootROM to the current release and your Mac Pro have a Metal capable GPU*. If you are trying to install Mojave...
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EDIT: Not sure what Silverstone card you're referring to. Make sure it's for a single blade and with a heatsink or look at the first post for recommendations .
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Thanks for the reply and the welcome KMP,
1 & 2. Yeah the SSD's are all EVO's so I should be good to go then. ?
3 & 4. I'll cast my eye over it when I get round to getting hands-on. I have designed/built many PC's over the years and have been into Mac since 2011 so looking forward to opening up that gorgeous chassis and having a play!
The Silverstone card looks like this and so has a single blade but no heatsink it would seem;
macfinder.co.uk
I've already ploughed through the first few pages in this thread but sometimes I start from the newest post and work backwards as things evolve over time.
I need to go take a look at the GPU thread now...
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
1 & 2. Yeah the SSD's are all EVO's so I should be good to go then. ?
3 & 4. I'll cast my eye over it when I get round to getting hands-on. I have designed/built many PC's over the years and have been into Mac since 2011 so looking forward to opening up that gorgeous chassis and having a play!
The Silverstone card looks like this and so has a single blade but no heatsink it would seem;
Samsung Evo 970 Flash SSD For Mac Pro - MacFinder - Certified Refurbished Apple Systems
Compatible With Mac Pro 2009 to 2012 250GB, 500GB, 1TB, 2TB Up to 1500MB/s Read & Write
macfinder.co.uk
I've already ploughed through the first few pages in this thread but sometimes I start from the newest post and work backwards as things evolve over time.
I need to go take a look at the GPU thread now...
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Personally I'm not sure about the quality of this Silverstone card.... and without a heatsink you may cook your blade.
Which means additional costs or... buy a quality product for the same price.
An all time favorite is the Aquacomputer m2 KRYO (EVO).
Enjoy the classic Mac Pro , IMHO a milestone in the history of (Mac) computers : )
Wow...that's pretty. It'll be here Wednesday!
I intend to and you're right it is!
Thanks & kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Please read the first post of this thread.Thanks for the reply and the welcome KMP,
1 & 2. Yeah the SSD's are all EVO's so I should be good to go then. ?
3 & 4. I'll cast my eye over it when I get round to getting hands-on. I have designed/built many PC's over the years and have been into Mac since 2011 so looking forward to opening up that gorgeous chassis and having a play!
The Silverstone card looks like this and so has a single blade but no heatsink it would seem;
Samsung Evo 970 Flash SSD For Mac Pro - MacFinder - Certified Refurbished Apple Systems
Compatible With Mac Pro 2009 to 2012 250GB, 500GB, 1TB, 2TB Up to 1500MB/s Read & Write
I've already ploughed through the first few pages in this thread but sometimes I start from the newest post and work backwards as things evolve over time.
I need to go take a look at the GPU thread now...
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Btw, without a heatsink you will overheat your 970EVO+ to the point of voiding the warranty the first time you install macOS on it. Yes, it will cook the blade with the install and the Spotlight indexing - don't do the same mistakes we did and documented on the thread.
Thanks for taking the time to reply tsialex.
Oh but I did...and I am ploughing my way through all 111 pages of it albeit slowly. The problem with Page 1 on an 111 page thread is sometimes the info/links can get outdated despite best efforts in keeping it up to date which is why I sometimes start at the last page and work backwards to cross reference!
Interestingly the link I posted to the Silverstone adapter was from a well known supplier of refurbished Mac Pro's and is their recommended solution so I would guess they don't have too many warranty issues or they wouldn't promote it?
As I mentioned I have already ordered the M2 Kryo EVO and also like the look of the Sabrent as it doesn't require removal of the PCI blanking plate so would be interested to hear any opinions as its half the price of the Kryo and doesn't have the tacky LED;
NVMe M.2 SSD to PCIe X16/X8/X4 Card
Enjoy extremely fast transfer speeds via PCIe lanes. Includes a heatsink and thermal padding. SSD bus interface: NVMe. (NOT compatible with SATA M.2 SSD) SSD form factor: M.2 M-Key. (NOT compatible with B-Key SSD) PCI Express physical interface: PCIe x16/x8/x4 slot. Logical interface / PCIe...
Thanks & kind regards,
-=Glyn=-