Planned obsolescence!

[nj1266]

I absolutely agree with everything you say, but you have to realize something:The strategy is working for Apple.
Planned Obsolescence do exists, there's much evidence to support it. But who are the ones that are always denying that? Who are the ones that are always bashing those who complain about the problem?
I'll tell you exactly who:
iPhone 6S Plus 128GB <Bought on launch day> = Most people with the latest devices.]
Those who practically bash the previous iPhone model the day the newest goes on sale. Those who are CAMPING outside Apple Stores before the new iphone is EVEN ANNOUNCED!

People whose preference is so obsessive over Apple that their sympathy regarding other users is limited to this:if you don't buy the latest model then go suffer in silence.
Yet most of them dare to comment on the matter with no info or facts but sarcasm or name-calling.

That's the proof that it's working perfectly as intended.
Needless to say, not every Apple user is like that. There are those who love to get the newest devcies as soon as possible but are perfectly aware of problems with the older ones.
Then there's the "Switch to Android" kind.

Apple is in the business of selling the latest hardware and software. Software is optimized to the latest hardware. You have older hardware? Tough luck. Wait for the iOS updated to have it optimized to your hardware. That is the way Apple has been working since iOS 7. This is the new pattern. We have seen it with three iOSes so far.

Knowing this, you have options. First, stop buying iOS devices. Vote with your wallet. Second, accept the above fact and wait until your device is optimized. Usually by the second or third major update your device will be optimized to the iOS. If it is not, well, sell your device and get an Android or Windows phone.

 

[nj1266]

Android Central?
XDA is the site to visit for Android. The rest are just pure junk unless you want to read reviews!

Fine go to XDA or any other Android forum. Just leave us alone and quit nagging. It is always the same Android lovers who are telling us how Apple sucks. We get it. Android is the best thing since sliced bread. Apple sucks. Now please go elsewhere.

 

[Elisha]

Fine go to XDA or any other Android forum. Just leave us alone and quit nagging. It is always the same Android lovers who are telling us how Apple sucks. We get it. Android is the best thing since sliced bread. Apple sucks. Now please go elsewhere.

Have you ever considered that the whiners, complainers, and naggers are the ones that are pushing for improvement?
If it were left to the likes of you, iOS would be stagnant and Apple would be complacent!

 

[Act3]

Yes, I know a whole lot more about Apple devices than a 20 year old student who joined the forums on June of 2015. I have owned almost every iPhone since the 4. I currently own a 4, 5s, 5c, and 6s plus, an iPad mini 2 and a MacBook Pro. I have jail broken and tweaked almost all of them.

I like Apple devices and I do not complain about the minor things that I do not like. I do not pollute these forums with Apple hate like most do. They are the same people over and over again. You hate Apple so much. Great. Sell your device and go buy something else. Show Apple that you will not accept their BS anymore. Polluting this forum with the same talk gets you nowhere.

I like Apple devices too, but since when is complaining about things one doesn't like considered Apple hate? What's the point of having a forum to discuss the products if people don't share their experiences, whether it be praises or gripes?

 

[sanke1]

I love Apple products. I criticise when I feel Apple starts to slip with their QA.

I own 6S Plus and 5S and the performance gap between them is obvious. iOS from 7 hasn't improved that much visually. All those Gaussian blurs were present since iOS 7. It was ok with iOS 8.4.1 but suddenly it's not ok with 9.3.

We all want Apple to give us best products. If you love someone, you tend to criticise them at times.

 

[Michael Goff]

Have you ever considered that the whiners, complainers, and naggers are the ones that are pushing for improvement?
If it were left to the likes of you, iOS would be stagnant and Apple would be complacent!

Complaining on a forum that Apple doesn't read won't do anything.

 

[Radon87000]

Have you ever considered that the whiners, complainers, and naggers are the ones that are pushing for improvement?
If it were left to the likes of you, iOS would be stagnant and Apple would be complacent!

Hey stop being factual.Its forbidden here.If you dont praise Apple seven ways to Sunday,you are just a troll or a hater

 

[C DM]

Hey stop being factual.Its forbidden here.If you dont praise Apple seven ways to Sunday,you are just a troll or a hater

What is factual about any of that? There is actual data backing it up?

 

[Armen]

Hey stop being factual.Its forbidden here.If you dont praise Apple seven ways to Sunday,you are just a troll or a hater

Since when is your personal perception of what is lag and stutter considered fact? If what you declared was fact you wouldn't have people like myself and others questioning your statement. Heck, I even uploaded a video on YouTube showing there is no lag or stutter and you conveniently ignored it.

 

[I7guy]

Hey stop being factual.Its forbidden here.If you dont praise Apple seven ways to Sunday,you are just a troll or a hater

The concept of planned obsolescence is a valid concept. It's the reason manufactured goods are priced affordably and manufactures can build new models and revisions quickly.

What seems hyperbolic (as does this quoted post)and common sense says this as well the concept of corporate sabotage as has been put forth on these forums is ludicrous.

Can you imagine the class action lawsuits that would accrue if Apple is found to be sabotaging its software such that consumers on older devices would be forced to upgrade?

The thought of Apple purposefully sabotaging its newer iOS releases such that consumers would be forced to upgrade their Idevices is laughable.

More likely they drew a line in the sand for performance they consider acceptable for new releases on older devices.

 

[Armen]

The concept of planned obsolescence is a valid concept. It's the reason manufactured goods are priced affordably and manufactures can build new models and revisions quickly.

What seems hyperbolic (as does this quoted post)and common sense says this as well the concept of corporate sabotage as has been put forth on these forums is ludicrous.

Can you imagine the class action lawsuits that would accrue if Apple is found to be sabotaging its software such that consumers on older devices would be forced to upgrade?

The thought of Apple purposefully sabotaging its newer iOS releases such that consumers would be forced to upgrade their Idevices is laughable.

More likely they drew a line in the sand for performance they consider acceptable for new releases on older devices.

Apple includes older devices people cry "planned obsolescence, they made it run slow so I'm forced to upgrade!"

Apple excludes older devices people will cry "planned obsolescence! they left my device out because they want me to upgrade to get the new features".

 

[MEJHarrison]

Planned Obsolescence do exists, there's much evidence to support it.

There's no evidence to support it. Just wild speculation and rumors from people who know little to nothing about what is involved in creating something as complex as an iPhone. It's people with a smattering of facts that they twist and turn until they support whatever point it is they're trying to prove. If you have real, actual proof, please let me know. I'd love to be proved wrong on this and finally put this argument behind us. And by "proof", I mean factual, verifiable evidence, not some wild hypothesis like all the other "proof" in this thread.

By the way, before you waste a bunch of time providing the proof I'm after, let me throw this out there. If such evidence did exist and was posted here, there would be no argument. There wouldn't be thread after thread after thread created on this same topic. The conversation wouldn't carry on for months now with the same people making the same arguments. If you have solid proof, it would end this conversation.

So...

You say planned obsolescence exists and there's much evidence to support that. Do you have any real facts to back that claim up? Or is all your "evidence" simply circumstantial? Because there's also plenty of circumstantial evidence that supports the notion that planned obsolescence is NOT real. That's the problem with circumstantial evidence. It doesn't actually prove anything. It can too easily be twisted to support the theory rather than being examined as is to validate the theory.

 

[Radon87000]

Complaining on a forum that Apple doesn't read won't do anything.

On the contrary,the traffic reports of this and 9to5mac frequently reports on devices with unannounced iOS versions visiting this site so they are not as clueless as you think

What is factual about any of that? There is actual data backing it up?

->Apple fanboys say anything bigger than 4 inches is too unwieldy and tell anyone who says otherwise to switch to Android.But then Apple listens and then we have this comical example of classic bias

->Apple fans say 1GB is more than enough and there is no tab reloading and the "spec maniacs" who care should switch to Android.Result = Apple uses 2GB RAM and suddenly 1GB devices are classified as too "obsolete" to run iOS 9 and you are a troll and you should switch to Android

->Apple fans say there is no need for AMOLED as it looks oversaturated and Samsung's AMOLED are horrible to look at,a higher than 720P screen is unnecessary as color accuracy means everything and resolution nothing and if you disagree you should move to Android.Result = Apple implementing Samsung's AMOLED in 2018,wireless charging and the other things Android has had for years.Oh and the Samsung AMOLED they love to criticise suddenly becomes marvelous because APPLE uses it and then these same guys will say "Yuck.IPS LCD Sucks."

->Apple fans say there are no performance issues with the Plus Editions of the iPhones compared to their small size counterparts and those who disagree are trolls and should switch to Android.Result = iPhone 7 Plus to get more RAM then the iPhone 7

->Apple fans say 16GB is MORE than enough and since its the highest selling iPhone variant,People LOVE it and have no issues whatsoever.If you disagree,you should move to Android.Result= Apple upping storage in iPhone 7

Since when is your personal perception of what is lag and stutter considered fact? If what you declared was fact you wouldn't have people like myself and others questioning your statement. Heck, I even uploaded a video on YouTube showing there is no lag or stutter and you conveniently ignored it.

I know what I see on my phone.The stutters are clear as day.After exiting an app from the app switcher which I do frequently and then rapidly moving my home screen I get stutters.As I said earlier out of 20 minutes of iPhone usage,around 5 minutes would be experiencing these jarring stutters.I actually stopped using CC because of this.
I will upload my OWN video probably some time later showcasing the lag I face
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Apple includes older devices people cry "planned obsolescence, they made it run slow so I'm forced to upgrade!"

Apple excludes older devices people will cry "planned obsolescence! they left my device out because they want me to upgrade to get the new features".

And the solution to both these problems.Allow users to downgrade.Google does it with Nexus.Microsoft does it with Windows.No reason Apple cant do the same

 

[Michael Goff]

On the contrary,the traffic reports of this and 9to5mac frequently reports on devices with unannounced iOS versions visiting this site so they are not as clueless as you think

->Apple fanboys say anything bigger than 4 inches is too unwieldy and tell anyone who says otherwise to switch to Android.But then Apple listens and then we have this comical example of classic bias

->Apple fans say 1GB is more than enough and there is no tab reloading and the "spec maniacs" who care should switch to Android.Result = Apple uses 2GB RAM and suddenly 1GB devices are classified as too "obsolete" to run iOS 9 and you are a troll and you should switch to Android

->Apple fans say there is no need for AMOLED as it looks oversaturated and Samsung's AMOLED are horrible to look at,a higher than 720P screen is unnecessary as color accuracy means everything and resolution nothing and if you disagree you should move to Android.Result = Apple implementing Samsung's AMOLED in 2018,wireless charging and the other things Android has had for years.Oh and the Samsung AMOLED they love to criticise suddenly becomes marvelous because APPLE uses it and then these same guys will say "Yuck.IPS LCD Sucks."

->Apple fans say there are no performance issues with the Plus Editions of the iPhones compared to their small size counterparts and those who disagree are trolls and should switch to Android.Result = iPhone 7 Plus to get more RAM then the iPhone 7

->Apple fans say 16GB is MORE than enough and since its the highest selling iPhone variant,People LOVE it and have no issues whatsoever.If you disagree,you should move to Android.Result= Apple upping storage in iPhone 7





I know what I see on my phone.The stutters are clear as day.After exiting an app from the app switcher which I do frequently and then rapidly moving my home screen I get stutters.As I said earlier out of 20 minutes of iPhone usage,around 5 minutes would be experiencing these jarring stutters.I actually stopped using CC because of this.
I will upload my OWN video probably some time later showcasing the lag I face
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And the solution to both these problems.Allow users to downgrade.Google does it with Nexus.Microsoft does it with Windows.No reason Apple cant do the same

Do you know how easy it would be for somebody to make a site show them as running some new version of the OS?

 

[C DM]

On the contrary,the traffic reports of this and 9to5mac frequently reports on devices with unannounced iOS versions visiting this site so they are not as clueless as you think

->Apple fanboys say anything bigger than 4 inches is too unwieldy and tell anyone who says otherwise to switch to Android.But then Apple listens and then we have this comical example of classic bias

->Apple fans say 1GB is more than enough and there is no tab reloading and the "spec maniacs" who care should switch to Android.Result = Apple uses 2GB RAM and suddenly 1GB devices are classified as too "obsolete" to run iOS 9 and you are a troll and you should switch to Android

->Apple fans say there is no need for AMOLED as it looks oversaturated and Samsung's AMOLED are horrible to look at,a higher than 720P screen is unnecessary as color accuracy means everything and resolution nothing and if you disagree you should move to Android.Result = Apple implementing Samsung's AMOLED in 2018,wireless charging and the other things Android has had for years.Oh and the Samsung AMOLED they love to criticise suddenly becomes marvelous because APPLE uses it and then these same guys will say "Yuck.IPS LCD Sucks."

->Apple fans say there are no performance issues with the Plus Editions of the iPhones compared to their small size counterparts and those who disagree are trolls and should switch to Android.Result = iPhone 7 Plus to get more RAM then the iPhone 7

->Apple fans say 16GB is MORE than enough and since its the highest selling iPhone variant,People LOVE it and have no issues whatsoever.If you disagree,you should move to Android.Result= Apple upping storage in iPhone 7





I know what I see on my phone.The stutters are clear as day.After exiting an app from the app switcher which I do frequently and then rapidly moving my home screen I get stutters.As I said earlier out of 20 minutes of iPhone usage,around 5 minutes would be experiencing these jarring stutters.I actually stopped using CC because of this.
I will upload my OWN video probably some time later showcasing the lag I face
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And the solution to both these problems.Allow users to downgrade.Google does it with Nexus.Microsoft does it with Windows.No reason Apple cant do the same

None of those things show anything about complaining in some online forums being responsible for something that Apple did that they were simply doing to keep up with the market and/or weren't already planning on doing anyway. Certainly nothing factual really--and you really got to love anything iPhone 7 related there in relation to anything factual, as it only proves the opposite.

 

[danleon950410]

Apple is in the business of selling the latest hardware and software. Software is optimized to the latest hardware. You have older hardware? Tough luck. Wait for the iOS updated to have it optimized to your hardware. That is the way Apple has been working since iOS 7. This is the new pattern. We have seen it with three iOSes so far.

Knowing this, you have options. First, stop buying iOS devices. Vote with your wallet. Second, accept the above fact and wait until your device is optimized. Usually by the second or third major update your device will be optimized to the iOS. If it is not, well, sell your device and get an Android or Windows phone.

Can't you teply with another thing? Are those the only words you know?

You want us to buy the newes Apple devices,right?
Would you be willing to provide the money?

 

[Radon87000]

None of those things show anything about complaining in some online forums being responsible for something that Apple did that they were simply doing to keep up with the market and/or weren't already planning on doing anyway. Certainly nothing factual really--and you really got to love anything iPhone 7 related there in relation to anything factual, as it only proves the opposite.

Lol I laid it all out on the table and yet you deny it.All these improvements which Apple implemented are because of those minority whiners and trolls who were giving constructive feedback to improve the iPhone.If Apple listens to its fans,it wouldn't have gotten anywhere.If it weren't for the whiners the iPhone would never have gotten an AMOLED,a high res screen,third party keyboards,and primarily a bigger screen

 

[Armen]

On the contrary,the traffic reports of this and 9to5mac frequently reports on devices with unannounced iOS versions visiting this site so they are not as clueless as you think

->Apple fanboys say anything bigger than 4 inches is too unwieldy and tell anyone who says otherwise to switch to Android.But then Apple listens and then we have this comical example of classic bias

->Apple fans say 1GB is more than enough and there is no tab reloading and the "spec maniacs" who care should switch to Android.Result = Apple uses 2GB RAM and suddenly 1GB devices are classified as too "obsolete" to run iOS 9 and you are a troll and you should switch to Android

->Apple fans say there is no need for AMOLED as it looks oversaturated and Samsung's AMOLED are horrible to look at,a higher than 720P screen is unnecessary as color accuracy means everything and resolution nothing and if you disagree you should move to Android.Result = Apple implementing Samsung's AMOLED in 2018,wireless charging and the other things Android has had for years.Oh and the Samsung AMOLED they love to criticise suddenly becomes marvelous because APPLE uses it and then these same guys will say "Yuck.IPS LCD Sucks."

->Apple fans say there are no performance issues with the Plus Editions of the iPhones compared to their small size counterparts and those who disagree are trolls and should switch to Android.Result = iPhone 7 Plus to get more RAM then the iPhone 7

->Apple fans say 16GB is MORE than enough and since its the highest selling iPhone variant,People LOVE it and have no issues whatsoever.If you disagree,you should move to Android.Result= Apple upping storage in iPhone 7





I know what I see on my phone.The stutters are clear as day.After exiting an app from the app switcher which I do frequently and then rapidly moving my home screen I get stutters.As I said earlier out of 20 minutes of iPhone usage,around 5 minutes would be experiencing these jarring stutters.I actually stopped using CC because of this.
I will upload my OWN video probably some time later showcasing the lag I face
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And the solution to both these problems.Allow users to downgrade

->Apple fans say 1GB is more than enough and there is no tab reloading and the "spec maniacs" who care should switch to Android.Result = Apple uses 2GB RAM and suddenly 1GB devices are classified as too "obsolete" to run iOS 9 and you are a troll and you should switch to Android - The truth is the focus of every Android phone review revolves around hardware specs because primitive hardware specs equals sluggish Android OS performance. This isn't the case with the iPhone because Apple controls the software and the hardware. What does it matter if the iPhone has 512MB of RAM if there is no impact on user experience?

->Apple fans say there is no need for AMOLED as it looks oversaturated and Samsung's AMOLED are horrible to look at,a higher than 720P screen is unnecessary as color accuracy means everything and resolution nothing and if you disagree you should move to Android.Result = Apple implementing Samsung's AMOLED in 2018,wireless charging and the other things Android has had for years.Oh and the Samsung AMOLED they love to criticise suddenly becomes marvelous because APPLE uses it and then these same guys will say "Yuck.IPS LCD Sucks." - The average user does not even know what these terms mean. This is a nerd/geek discussion and nothing more.


->Apple fans say there are no performance issues with the Plus Editions of the iPhones compared to their small size counterparts and those who disagree are trolls and should switch to Android.Result = iPhone 7 Plus to get more RAM then the iPhone 7 - This again is a difference of perception. You focus too much around nerd/geek people as most users won't care about this either.

->Apple fans say 16GB is MORE than enough and since its the highest selling iPhone variant,People LOVE it and have no issues whatsoever.If you disagree,you should move to Android.Result= Apple upping storage in iPhone 7 - There are so many cloud storage solutions out there like Dropbox, Box, Google Drive, One Drive and iCloud. For a tech savvy person 16GB of storage is plenty if you know how to use these services. For the soccer mom who snaps 15,000 pics on her iPhone she needs a larger local storage option.

You are shifting the conversation in different directions. Pick a topic and stick to it.

 

[Radon87000]

Apple is in the business of selling the latest hardware and software. Software is optimized to the latest hardware. You have older hardware? Tough luck. Wait for the iOS updated to have it optimized to your hardware. That is the way Apple has been working since iOS 7. This is the new pattern. We have seen it with three iOSes so far.

Knowing this, you have options. First, stop buying iOS devices. Vote with your wallet. Second, accept the above fact and wait until your device is optimized. Usually by the second or third major update your device will be optimized to the iOS. If it is not, well, sell your device and get an Android or Windows phone.

If I have to wait 10 months to get an optimised iOS what's the difference between Apple and Samsung.Both effectively release their updates at the same time by that count.And for the record I DO NOT have to wait 10 months to get an optimised Android for my Nexus 5.If Apple is resorting to this it further cements the planned obsolescence theory

 

[danleon950410]

There's no evidence to support it. Just wild speculation and rumors from people who know little to nothing about what is involved in creating something as complex as an iPhone. It's people with a smattering of facts that they twist and turn until they support whatever point it is they're trying to prove. If you have real, actual proof, please let me know. I'd love to be proved wrong on this and finally put this argument behind us. And by "proof", I mean factual, verifiable evidence, not some wild hypothesis like all the other "proof" in this thread.

By the way, before you waste a bunch of time providing the proof I'm after, let me throw this out there. If such evidence did exist and was posted here, there would be no argument. There wouldn't be thread after thread after thread created on this same topic. The conversation wouldn't carry on for months now with the same people making the same arguments. If you have solid proof, it would end this conversation.

So...

You say planned obsolescence exists and there's much evidence to support that. Do you have any real facts to back that claim up? Or is all your "evidence" simply circumstantial? Because there's also plenty of circumstantial evidence that supports the notion that planned obsolescence is NOT real. That's the problem with circumstantial evidence. It doesn't actually prove anything. It can too easily be twisted to support the theory rather than being examined as is to validate the theory.

No, it's simply the case that you and a lot of people wanna hide the sunlight with yout bare fingers.

Siri cases, AirDrop cases, lots of things that work really good with jailbreak but are absent from devices and let people wondering if that case really applies.
The problem is that, to you, the only evidence that counts is provided by Apple.

Let me give you the latest example: Night Shift, only available to 64 bit devices.
Now, why's that? There's no extra power needed to dim the screen, it's not like the f.lux jailbreak tweak didn't work on 32 bit devices either, and as it happens to a certain time less resources to none are needed. But you might say find an excuse to make the perfect alibi for Apple, hell, you may say Apple invented it before f.lux.
Why would they do that? It's not like having updates that are absent of features for no reason or are slowing down our devices is gonna force us to buy newer OHHHH WAIT...

You know, you remind me of the guy that said "the iPad Pro lags on the Spotlight search animation too. Planned Obsolescence is a myth confirmed", but you just said that that kind of evidence is trash, so i guess you or they have to do better.

 

[C DM]

Lol I laid it all out on the table and yet you deny it.All these improvements which Apple implemented are because of those minority whiners and trolls who were giving constructive feedback to improve the iPhone.If Apple listens to its fans,it wouldn't have gotten anywhere.If it weren't for the whiners the iPhone would never have gotten an AMOLED,a high res screen,third party keyboards,and primarily a bigger screen

Except all of what you laid out doesn't show what you try to imply it factually shows. Just because some people whined about something and Apple did something related to it doesn't mean that it was done because of that whining. Correlation does not imply causation just because it exists.

(And to further bring up a number of things about iPhone 7 that no one knows anything about--aside from Apple who aren't talking about it--only demonstrates how non-factual any of that is.)

The other part of it that is kind of funny is that if anything the planned obsolescence idea would actually be the exact one that would argue against this very thing too. If Apple has planned all these things then clearly they aren't doing them in response to some whining in some forums, right? Otherwise it wouldn't be planned now, would it? LOL indeed.

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No, it's simply the case that you and a lot of people wanna hide the sunlight with yout bare fingers.

Siri cases, AirDrop cases, lots of things that work really good with jailbreak but are absent from devices and let people wondering if that case really applies.
The problem is that, to you, the only evidence that counts is provided by Apple.

Let me give you the latest example: Night Shift, only available to 64 bit devices.
Now, why's that? There's no extra power needed to dim the screen, it's not like the f.lux jailbreak tweak didn't work on 32 bit devices either, and as it happens to a certain time less resources to none are needed. But you might say find an excuse to make the perfect alibi for Apple, hell, you may say Apple invented it before f.lux.
Why would they do that? It's not like having updates that are absent of features for no reason or are slowing down our devices is gonna force us to buy newer OHHHH WAIT...

You know, you remind me of the guy that said "the iPad Pro lags on the Spotlight search animation too. Planned Obsolescence is a myth confirmed", but you just said that that kind of evidence is trash, so i guess you or they have to do better.

Except it can very well be simple development reality--the code is based on 64-bit libraries and framework and thus it only applies to 64-bit devices.

 

[I7guy]

If I have to wait 10 months to get an optimised iOS what's the difference between Apple and Samsung.Both effectively release their updates at the same time by that count.And for the record I DO NOT have to wait 10 months to get an optimised Android for my Nexus 5.If Apple is resorting to this it further cements the planned obsolescence theory

Your logic seems circular.

iOS 10 is going to be a fully usable o/s on the iPhone 7 and a great update on the 5s and later. As is the pattern there will be updates to iOS 10 along the way.

That is certainly the exact pattern of Samsung providing concrete proof of your errr "factoid".

 

[dk001]

...

Since iOS 7 Apple has optimized to the newest iPhone and worked backwards to the old ones. Their priority is the newest device. You want 100% optimized iOS, buy the new device. Otherwise, wait for the iOS updates to optimize your old hardware. THAT IS THE WAY IT IS.

You have two options: 1. Live with this new reality. 2. Sell your Apple devices and get something else.

Why? It never was before JI took over design of both Hardware/Software and TC became top dog.
Unless things change, that mindset you espoused would lead to a great company accepting mediocrity.
Personally I don't think it is the issue - something else has gone wrong internally at Apple. What? I don't know. I just hope it gets fixed. Both.

 

[MEJHarrison]

No, it's simply the case that you and a lot of people wanna hide the sunlight with yout bare fingers.

That's an opinion. Something you believe which can't be proved.

Opinions are different from facts. Let me illustrate: You haven't the slightest clue if I'd like the sunlight hidden and if so, my preferred method of blocking the light. That's you presenting your opinion as fact even though you genuinely have no idea since we've never met or spoken before today. You literally know nothing about me past what I've shared here on this forum. And I've not mentioned my like or dislike of sunlight anywhere on this forum. You and I have interacted just a single time, yet you claim to already know my motivations. You made a wild guess and are pretending it's the truth.

Present your opinions as opinions and your facts as facts. If you start telling me your opinions are facts, we're not going to communicate very well.

Why is Night Shift only available on 64-bit devices? Honestly, I don't know. You'd need to ask Apple. We can postulate theories all day long. It's no different than content blockers not being available on 32-bit devices. Are they doing it to be greedy? Maybe. I'm not sure; I don't work for Apple. Are they doing it because they're phasing out 32-bit devices and have more important things to focus on at this point (think the worst computing disaster to ever affect computing devices since the history of computing devices... stutter and lag)? Maybe. I'm not sure; I don't work for Apple. Could there possibly be another explanation that the ultra secretive Apple hasn't yet shared with us and we haven't learned through leaked sources? Maybe. I'm not sure; I don't work for Apple. Could it be that we're just taking a few scraps of information here and there and building complete conspiracy theories that are 85% fabricated from our imaginations and not really based on any real information? Absolutely. Unless you have an inside source at Apple you've not mentioned.

What I do know is that when I look at cases like that and then throw in some common sense, I come to a different conclusion than you do. Which is that Apple is not deliberately and intentionally crippling older devices to sell new ones. In fact, I'd say problems with the iPad Pro only strengthen my beliefs. If they're intentionally crippling devices to get people to buy new devices, what device are they pushing iPad Pro owners towards? What phones are they hoping 6S owners will pick up after they dump their brand new piece of junk? If you want me to buy into the planned obsolescence theory, you're going to need to tell me which devices Apple are hoping people will pick up when the best Apple has to offer isn't good enough.

 

[dk001]

Yes, I know a whole lot more about Apple devices than a 20 year old student who joined the forums on June of 2015. I have owned almost every iPhone since the 4. I currently own a 4, 5s, 5c, and 6s plus, an iPad mini 2 and a MacBook Pro. I have jail broken and tweaked almost all of them.

I like Apple devices and I do not complain about the minor things that I do not like. I do not pollute these forums with Apple hate like most do. They are the same people over and over again. You hate Apple so much. Great. Sell your device and go buy something else. Show Apple that you will not accept their BS anymore. Polluting this forum with the same talk gets you nowhere.

Know a lot about .... snicker
No, seriously... Your stated opinion is "acceptance". There are a number of folks that fall into this bucket. Then there is the other bucket. Or two.
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I love Apple products. I criticise when I feel Apple starts to slip with their QA.

I own 6S Plus and 5S and the performance gap between them is obvious. iOS from 7 hasn't improved that much visually. All those Gaussian blurs were present since iOS 7. It was ok with iOS 8.4.1 but suddenly it's not ok with 9.3.

We all want Apple to give us best products. If you love someone, you tend to criticise them at times.

Tuff Luv
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The concept of planned obsolescence is a valid concept. It's the reason manufactured goods are priced affordably and manufactures can build new models and revisions quickly.

What seems hyperbolic (as does this quoted post)and common sense says this as well the concept of corporate sabotage as has been put forth on these forums is ludicrous.

Can you imagine the class action lawsuits that would accrue if Apple is found to be sabotaging its software such that consumers on older devices would be forced to upgrade?

The thought of Apple purposefully sabotaging its newer iOS releases such that consumers would be forced to upgrade their Idevices is laughable.

More likely they drew a line in the sand for performance they consider acceptable for new releases on older devices.

I think your diatribe has one wrong word in it used multiple times and in multiple forms: Sabotage.
Planned obsolescence is not sabotage, it's a feature.
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Apple includes older devices people cry "planned obsolescence, they made it run slow so I'm forced to upgrade!"

Apple excludes older devices people will cry "planned obsolescence! they left my device out because they want me to upgrade to get the new features".

You missed the third option: It runs. Be happy.
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There's no evidence to support it. ...
So...
You say planned obsolescence exists and there's much evidence to support that. Do you have any real facts to back that claim up? Or is all your "evidence" simply circumstantial? Because there's also plenty of circumstantial evidence that supports the notion that planned obsolescence is NOT real. That's the problem with circumstantial evidence. It doesn't actually prove anything. It can too easily be twisted to support the theory rather than being examined as is to validate the theory.

Let's flip this... Do you have any proof it (planned obsolescence) doesn't exist? If so, then please trot out those facts.
Unless Apple is willing to come clean (one way or the other) and allow us access so we can verify it (one way or the other) this is a circumstantial vs. circumstantial case.