is 3g something that can be added in the future with software upgrads, or does it only involve hardware?
I'm sure someone will create an app that will let you access the iPhone in disk mode if Apple doesn't implement this feature.
Has it occurred to anyone that apple doesn't want to release bloated devices? The'll add some things over software update in a staggered fashion, to add function while people get used to it. Look at how simple the "simple" iApps were when launched and what they can do now. It's all about getting people used to things, then building from there.
I can tether for $20/mo (and without my carrier actually giving a damn), so yes, I really did expect AT&T to offer the same.
I'm curious who your carrier is? What model phone do you use? Is it over bluetooth or usb? Did you not want to say for fear that your carrier might actually care?
T-Mobile. HTC P4350. Bluetooth.
I've got no problem saying it either, no fear whatsoever. I just didn't want to get into another "what carrier is better" debate. Been there, done that.
Clearly, it is not the most brilliant of analysts who are complaining that Apple isn't offering a EVDO, a rival provider's technology, or is not forcing users to use bleeding edge 3G networks that are currently under-built and overpriced, when iPhone users will be able to use much faster and cheaper WiFi service in many areas.
With the iPhone, Apple is forcing Cingular to support and subsidize a phone that will save users money. That makes the iPhone far more useful to far more people. Remember that Apple wants to sell lots of hardware, not force users into paying high prices for mobile service.
Again, that puts Apple in the position of giving its users a better product. The prospect of high iPhone hardware sales forced Cingular to court iPhone users to get their business.
It would better suit Verizon to have mobile phones beholden to using its EVDO network for every bit of data that gets transmitted, but Apple isn't in Verizon's pocket the way Palm, Microsoft, and other vendors of phones are.
Remember that Verizon is famous for disabling Bluetooth and blocking WiFi service so that its users have no choice but to use its overpriced and underwhelming EVDO network.
Apple’s disruption in the mobile phone space is good news for anyone sick of paying too much for phone service, as it will greatly increase competition in the mobile phone and service industry. That will ultimately benefit everyone, not just Apple's customers. Analysts mocking the iPhone should know that.
That's fine. I do it with SprintPCS too for $15. But Sprint tries to hide that from users (I guess knowing that some might just stick with them for this feature). Obviously no one would pay $80 per month for laptop data service if they knew they could do it with their phone. With a bluetooth phone its even more convenient than a PC Card.
T-Mobile disables the feature on many of its bluetooth phones (I know someone who has a Blackberry and its disabled). Again, its a very taboo thing with all of the carriers. They just look the other way.
Obviously if we could all just pay $20 for unlimited data we could do our text messages and our voice calls over skype for free and tether to our laptops. $20 per month for all of that. But guess what, if we all paid $20 per month than there wouldn't be a cell phone infrastructure to use (at least not without a rash of corporate bankruptcies first; not that there's anything wrong with that).
It's really a mute point.
I had a BlackBerry on TMo and it worked fine. Bit of a bitch to setup compared to Windows Mobile (Bluetooth PAN FTW!) but it worked. Which BB was it? I had the Pearl. I don't think some of the older BBs even had the DUN profile and just used Bluetooth for headsets (and maybe OBEX)
T-Mobile. HTC P4350. Bluetooth.
I've got no problem saying it either, no fear whatsoever. I just didn't want to get into another "what carrier is better" debate. Been there, done that.
I'm starting to feel that all these iPhone bashers are comparable to some Windows fanboy going onto the Mac forums and saying that Mac's suck. You don't see topics on the Macbook Pro forum about how much better a Dell laptop is. There shouldn't be posts here about how much better other phones are. It's about discussing the iPhone. Discussing the problems is good, but posts bashing and talking about how Sidekicks are so much more functional should be deleted IMO.
I've got TmoB on the 20 dollar data plan. I use the SE 990i to connect to my Macbook. I've gotten a lot of work done on the Acela between New York and Washington DC with this setup. Checking email, editing copy on content publishing systems, prepared proposals and powerpoint slides even ftp'ing files from my server and uploading files to .Mac. It's slow but it works. To suggest I could get that work done on a phone is kind of stupid to me. So not having DUn is kind of ridiculous IMHO. hopefully, the hacks come fast and furiousIf it is hackable at all.
I'm figuring if there is any kind of menu in the settings page that lets you setup Bluetooth devices, maybe there's a way to pair an iPhone with the PC. Then, from there, it's just a matter of using OSX to set it up.
One can only wish...
Despite Pogue's comments, I still find it hard to fathom the phone can't run a laptop. If this is indeed true, there won't be an iPhone purchase in my house. This prospect makes me sad. Not being able to use it as a modem for a laptop is a deal breaker. The lack of 3g also.
Looks like we'll shoot for the 2nd or 3rd version here. Tears.![]()
T-Mobile. HTC P4350. Bluetooth.