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Other Pricing in Europe. Iphones didn't increase in the Us,but got painfully more expensive here [MERGED]
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there are still rumours that is usb 3.0...we just have to wait and receive the new iphones to test that rumour
Great! You will like it.
Here in Sweden our krona has lost a lot against both the dollar and the euro. So prices were increased, also the 13 mini.
I used an SE 1st gen for four years, until this year.
My daughter used an S10e until a few weeks ago, she liked it a lot. Now she has a refurbished Xr.
The countries have differing tax rates. For example Luxembourg has 17% while the Netherlands has 21%. Apart from that, you should also have a look at the average monthly net income:
- Spain: € 1784
- Luxembourg: € 3573
- Germany: € 2913
- The Netherlands: € 2240
- Portugal: € 1004 (no, I did not in fact mistype here)
If you take this into account then an iPhone is much cheaper for someone living in Luxembourg than for someone living in Spain, while the price in the latter country is higher.
Apple can keep their 14’s and I’ll keep this another year.
No skin off my teeth!
Insane prices also in Greece 
iPhone 14 Pro
128GB: 1399€
256GB: 1549€
512GB: 1829€
1TB: 2119€
iPhone 14 Pro MAX
128GB: 1549€
256GB: 1719€
512GB: 1999€
1TB: 2279€
iPhone 14 Pro
128GB: 1399€
256GB: 1549€
512GB: 1829€
1TB: 2119€
iPhone 14 Pro MAX
128GB: 1549€
256GB: 1719€
512GB: 1999€
1TB: 2279€
f... you can rent for 3 or even 5 months a apartment in Athens for iPhone 14 pro max 128 gbInsane prices also in Greece
iPhone 14 Pro
128GB: 1399€
256GB: 1549€
512GB: 1829€
1TB: 2119€
iPhone 14 Pro MAX
128GB: 1549€
256GB: 1719€
512GB: 1999€
1TB: 2279€
fantastic
It's actually a good thing , since apple is going to take a huge hit in sales in EUROPE maybe next time around they will cater to our situation aswell , US is profiting heavily because of the war in UKRAINE ( really don't want to go off-topic ) and EU is drowning because of it , hence EURO dropping below USD which is something that has never been seen in ages , add inflation and everything else and you get these prices listed here.
Prices should be the same worldwide period.
Prices should be the same worldwide period.
Yeah, but again those getting Apple phones think they can afford, those who don't or otherwise not value Apple get Android. Sad but true.
Yes, but Euro lost nearly 20% (1.17:1 vs 1:1 or less now) of its value against USD within one year (mostly happened within few months). Do the match using that and you'll see for yourself.
Welp, going from 1.17 to 1 is actually a drop of 14,6%, which is closer to 10 than it is to 20. You can't just subtract the 17 and then go "Oh, it's a 17% drop", because that is not how math works.
Yes I know but still the math match. That was just rough numbers I gave, plus Euro has dipped few times below 1 already. Use the values and count yourself, it match for the price hike we got.
I don't really understand what exactly you are defending here.
Let's also take the Chinese Yuan into account. The USD has risen 7.5% year over year to it. Even accounting for US inflation, this means that labour and parts has about stayed the same for them.
Let's also not talk about the fact that Apple is routing their money through tax paradises to even further increase profits. You know, the net income Apple has each year, the one that was 57 billion dollars in 2020 and rose to an absolute mind blowing 94 billion dollars in 2021.
As I said, they are a company and it will never be enough.
Edit: source https://www.statista.com/statistics/267728/apples-net-income-since-2005/
Let's also take the Chinese Yuan into account. The USD has risen 7.5% year over year to it. Even accounting for US inflation, this means that labour and parts has about stayed the same for them.
Let's also not talk about the fact that Apple is routing their money through tax paradises to even further increase profits. You know, the net income Apple has each year, the one that was 57 billion dollars in 2020 and rose to an absolute mind blowing 94 billion dollars in 2021.
As I said, they are a company and it will never be enough.
Edit: source https://www.statista.com/statistics/267728/apples-net-income-since-2005/
Every year the new iPhone comes out, we see a rehash of this same post. Keep in mind, many (most?) folks in Europe and the UK don't realize that listed US prices do not include sales tax. Just about everywhere else, the VAT is included in the listed price.
I just ran the numbers on two phones to compare pricing between the US vs. UK, France, and Germany. I looked at the iPhone 14 (128GB) model and the iPhone 14Pro (512GB) model. No rhyme or reason for the specs that I chose.
For the iPhone 14Pro (512GB), the story is a bit different.
This is not to say that a price increase for the newest iPhones isn't unfortunate, because it is. It's just to say that looking at it from a clean slate, the pricing differential this year isn't quite as drastic as it's been in prior years.
EDIT - I checked a few more countries against these two models. Turns out that Japan has the best prices of the countries that I've checked. They are at $751.47 and $1,221.93, both at a discount compared to the US. China has the lowest price on the iPhone 14-128 at $743.24, but has a 2% premium on the iPhone 14Pro at $1325.54. It's very interesting on how the pricing is so varied. I wonder if perhaps Japan has relatively few tariffs, allowing for Apple to price their products lower.
NOTE - I wanted to check Greece as I saw a post earlier mentioning Greece, but they don't have the iPhone 14 on their website yet.
I just ran the numbers on two phones to compare pricing between the US vs. UK, France, and Germany. I looked at the iPhone 14 (128GB) model and the iPhone 14Pro (512GB) model. No rhyme or reason for the specs that I chose.
- US pricing for the iPhone 14 is $799, but for a fair comparision, it's actually $829 for the SIM-free model.
- UK pricing of 849GBP minus VAT (20%), converted to USD (1.15x) is $813.63 ... a 1.9% discount compared to the US price
- France pricing of 1019Euro minus VAT (20%), converted to USD (1x) is $849.14 ... a 2.4% premium compared to US pricing.
- Germany pricing of 999Euro minus VAT (19%), converted to USD (1x) is $839.50 ... a 1.3% premium.
For the iPhone 14Pro (512GB), the story is a bit different.
- US pricing for iPhone 14Pro is $1299 for the SIM free model
- UK price of 1429GBP converts to $1369.46 (5.4% premium)
- France price of 1719Euro converts to $1432.50 (10.3% premium)
- Germany price of 1689Euro converts to $1419.33 (9.3% premium)
This is not to say that a price increase for the newest iPhones isn't unfortunate, because it is. It's just to say that looking at it from a clean slate, the pricing differential this year isn't quite as drastic as it's been in prior years.
EDIT - I checked a few more countries against these two models. Turns out that Japan has the best prices of the countries that I've checked. They are at $751.47 and $1,221.93, both at a discount compared to the US. China has the lowest price on the iPhone 14-128 at $743.24, but has a 2% premium on the iPhone 14Pro at $1325.54. It's very interesting on how the pricing is so varied. I wonder if perhaps Japan has relatively few tariffs, allowing for Apple to price their products lower.
NOTE - I wanted to check Greece as I saw a post earlier mentioning Greece, but they don't have the iPhone 14 on their website yet.
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You can check the prices for Greece here
because they spend more times outdoors, I think they have good weather and in the summer most of them spend the day around beaches
While in London a 25 m square house sells for 300000 pounds , the size of a garage
I think a house that size is outlawed to be habitated in Greece . A studio flat starts from 40 meters square
I think the price increase in Europe is nothing but a failure of their accountants (sitting on their desks crunching numbers) to actually understand the situation in Europe, and see how much money they will lose with those prices. That is what happens when corporations form their prices just by looking at exchange rates.
If a company truly wants to sell a lot of their products, they will adjust their prices according to market, and take a smaller profit but hit bigger sales. Simple. Apple is not one of those companies, it does not seem they have even remotely judged the situation in Europe. Bad for them, good for European customers, who will save money and simply continue to use their old iPhones, or buy an Android. Apple, instead making some profit (with adjusted prices for Europe) will now lose sales and profit.
I anticipated this price hike and got a 13 Pro to replace my loved iPhone X, which I now handed to my mother. In my country, 13 Pro is priced at 2299, and the 14 Pro will be 2799. A 500 difference that I simply cannot justify spending, not that I can't afford it. I will use my 13 Pro in the coming 3-4 years, and Apple just lost a (14 Pro) sale.
If a company truly wants to sell a lot of their products, they will adjust their prices according to market, and take a smaller profit but hit bigger sales. Simple. Apple is not one of those companies, it does not seem they have even remotely judged the situation in Europe. Bad for them, good for European customers, who will save money and simply continue to use their old iPhones, or buy an Android. Apple, instead making some profit (with adjusted prices for Europe) will now lose sales and profit.
I anticipated this price hike and got a 13 Pro to replace my loved iPhone X, which I now handed to my mother. In my country, 13 Pro is priced at 2299, and the 14 Pro will be 2799. A 500 difference that I simply cannot justify spending, not that I can't afford it. I will use my 13 Pro in the coming 3-4 years, and Apple just lost a (14 Pro) sale.
The good thing about the price increase is , iPhone 13 cost 900€ and iPhone 14 1300€, before I was saving 900€ and now I will be saving 1300€.
Long life to my 11 Pro Max!
Long life to my 11 Pro Max!
I do think there's a risk for Apple to price itself out of the market in the long run, regardless of whether price increases can be reasonably explained by inflation and exchange rates. It's uncertain times and many will not want to afford the price of the 14 and particularly the 14 Pro, many will simply not be able to. Costs rise, wages don't keep up and people don't and shouldn't care about Apple's profit margins.
Maybe it'll displace demand to cheaper models, but I wouldn't be surprised if more people switched to Android, particularly because there's no iMessage to hold anyone back. Apple will feel this not just in their phone sales, but it might affect their other products as well.
In any case, we will see, but it's absolutely the time where massive price increases make sense but might go down like a lead balloon.
Maybe it'll displace demand to cheaper models, but I wouldn't be surprised if more people switched to Android, particularly because there's no iMessage to hold anyone back. Apple will feel this not just in their phone sales, but it might affect their other products as well.
In any case, we will see, but it's absolutely the time where massive price increases make sense but might go down like a lead balloon.
In Europe everybody uses WhatsApp and Telegram, almost nobody use iMessage…
But in terms of what you actually pay, what actually matters to the consumer...
UK price. £849
= $978
US price. $829 + 5% average sales tax
= $870
So in the UK you'd pay 12% more.
And for the higher spec'd Pro models that figure will be a lot higher.
Nothing, I just wanted to point out price hike in Europe is nothing else but exchange rate change due to weak Euro against USD.
Product is still priced in USD all over the world, and since Euro is weak now, price is higher here due to that. Just checking EUR/USD exchange rate now vs 1 year ago match the amount of hike in Euros. It is simple math.
It is sad but true, they are a company which makes money for their investors and they only are responsible to their investors and try to keep them happy. Sure they could afford charity but they are not in charity business.