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Other Pricing in Europe. Iphones didn't increase in the Us,but got painfully more expensive here [MERGED]
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Yes this is their MO. They inflate prices that way and ensure ever increasing profits. A part of me is glad so many European governments are investigating and fining them for anti competitive moves or not including chargers, because it’ll hit them in the pocket for the rip off prices they have in the U.K.
I wanted a Max iPhone this year, but I do like the Mini. And I just can’t bring myself to pay the prices for something that will only last around 3 years before ripping it apart to replace the battery removing its water proofing in the process. Or selling it on for something else. So I may for thr first time ever hit the refurb store. Not sure.
But it’s not that clear cut as according to,posters in this website no US state charged anywhere near 20% tax. I think the most is 8%. But still their seems to be a 10% difference that’s unexplainable. Most likely for that extra profit. However it’s sakes will drop I can guarantee that across Europe. But that’s true for all luxury goods at present.
You realise that what we think affects whether we purchase goods or not, which in turn directly affects their sales?
EUR = USD now. So let's see:
1299 w/o tax in the us = 1400USD (100 EUR tax)
The same phone here in the Netherlands is 1719USD (306 EUR tax)
320 EUR difference. (206 EUR from tax) = 114 EUR difference in actual product pricing.
There probably is environmental tax and shipping fees (and tax on shipping) apple is paying on their end.
I now blame the EUR devaluation / Strong Dollar
1299 w/o tax in the us = 1400USD (100 EUR tax)
The same phone here in the Netherlands is 1719USD (306 EUR tax)
320 EUR difference. (206 EUR from tax) = 114 EUR difference in actual product pricing.
There probably is environmental tax and shipping fees (and tax on shipping) apple is paying on their end.
I now blame the EUR devaluation / Strong Dollar
I read these 5 pages about the price increase and as a EU citizen, I totally agree that price hike is way too high but I think we also miss one important point. The iPhone 14 did not deliver anything amazing and the updates were just minimal which also affects how we react to price hike. The iPhone 13 already felt like iPhone 12S but this iPhone 14 is just incremental update and not justifying the price hike. Heck, it does not even justify upgrading from iPhone 13 even in the US unless you have to update every year.
I don't want to back to talking about innovation and boldness of Job's era but last few years we have had improvements in areas which are almost meaningless for regular customers. Faster processors? Thinner chassis? etc. And if you want to change the 1.5k phone yearly, then its over 100€ month without counting the selling of used phone.
Apple has started finally to shift towards luxury goods and while economic downturn might be temporary due the Russia's war, the new Apple products will shift towards even more earning people. For some people the newest is a must just for the sake of it as we have seen in the Apple world.
I don't want to back to talking about innovation and boldness of Job's era but last few years we have had improvements in areas which are almost meaningless for regular customers. Faster processors? Thinner chassis? etc. And if you want to change the 1.5k phone yearly, then its over 100€ month without counting the selling of used phone.
Apple has started finally to shift towards luxury goods and while economic downturn might be temporary due the Russia's war, the new Apple products will shift towards even more earning people. For some people the newest is a must just for the sake of it as we have seen in the Apple world.
Glad I bought my 13 Pro last year, will last me a few years.
I reckon Apple are factoring in the Eurozone’s 10% inflation this year. Just another excuse really.
It won’t do their market share any good. Europe’s already largely Android, I don’t see that changing.
I reckon Apple are factoring in the Eurozone’s 10% inflation this year. Just another excuse really.
It won’t do their market share any good. Europe’s already largely Android, I don’t see that changing.
You can get much more for a 12 Pro on Ricardo or other sites than what Apple offers as a trade-in.
decided to cancel my pre-order. Would have liked to upgrade from 11 pro max but will keep it for another year
crazy to pay 50 pounds a month
crazy to pay 50 pounds a month
Just check they are not sold crippled there or have all the necessary 5G bands for Europe. A while back iPhones destined for the UAE did not have FaceTime. This has now been sorted out, I believe, but the bands still need to be checked. ✋
Yes, the European prices are nuts. I was not planning to get iPhone 14, but was expecting a discount on 13 mini and here is what we actually got before/after the event:
Belgium - 809€/809€ (0 discount)
France - 809€/809€ (0 discount)
Germany - 809€/799€ (10€ discount)
Italy - 839€ now (not sure what it was before)
Switzerland - 779CHF/699CHF (80CHF discount)
UK - £679/£649£ (£30 discount)
And these are all for the last year’s “not very popular” iPhone mini. What’s going on, Apple? 🤷🏻♂️
Belgium - 809€/809€ (0 discount)
France - 809€/809€ (0 discount)
Germany - 809€/799€ (10€ discount)
Italy - 839€ now (not sure what it was before)
Switzerland - 779CHF/699CHF (80CHF discount)
UK - £679/£649£ (£30 discount)
And these are all for the last year’s “not very popular” iPhone mini. What’s going on, Apple? 🤷🏻♂️
It is interesting to see how quickly retailers react when the value of their national currency against the dollar drops which makes anything traded in dollars more expensive. The past few months the UK's Bank of England has been quoting that the UK is heading for a recession and only just this week the govenor of the Bank of England said that the UK is heading for a recession very very soon. This has got the money markets worried and of course it has affected the value of anything traded against the dollar but yes UK retailers have moved very very quickly to increase the prices of goods to combat the effect of weakened sterling (UK national currency) against the dollar.
I am sure other EU countries retailers have done the same, if the vaule of their national currency has weakened against the dollar, up goes the prices of Apple products.
I am sure other EU countries retailers have done the same, if the vaule of their national currency has weakened against the dollar, up goes the prices of Apple products.
I remember the laughs when Samsung presented it,s foldable for almost 2000 dollar. Now Apple presented the iPhone max 1 TB for 2129,00 euro….and it’s not even gold plated.
why you need a iPhone while you there in nice weather by the beach
leave the phone' ''excitement'' for north europeans
Almost certainly it's that they're hedging against further forex drops in Europe into the winter. Forced industry shutdowns in response to power shortages are likely to aggravate already sputtering economic performance, and that will be reflected in €/£/kr./zł. etc.
Very tough situation for UK buyers. My wife and I typically buy older iPhones just after a new model is released. So my wife bought the 11 this time last year for £489. I have checked the 12 this morning and it's actually £650. That's the cheapest 6" model Apple sell. When you compare to the Pixel 6a at £399 it's a tough Apple shaped pill to swallow.
How about people bought phone or contract 24 months before? Your math is funny lol xd
While this may seem minor to many people, it is significant. It shows that if the pound continues to tumble and our economy continues to falter, there is the potential for Apple to increase the prices of products that were released months/years ago.