Even better, only allow genetically and physically fit person to buy their iPhone, so they can press all of those buttons without moving iPhone. Genius.
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Let me guess. You are definitely not a photog. Hence your creation of this thread.
The camera button is a welcome addition. I do think they should try and change the position of the button to be a little closer to the corner, but I’m managing just fine either way. I have found holding the phone with the camera button under my left thumb to be a more comfortable position for now
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None of them are taking pictures where having the phone stay still matters. 🤷♂️
What surprised me was that they made it a button that physically depresses.
I thought they'd trust their Taptic Engine to be able to distinguish between multiple stages of pressing a static element. That's what they're doing with their MacBook trackpads anyway. It could've also been customizable like the iPhone 7/8/SE2+3 home button.
Now, the level of pressure required for the full press is set in stone, at least for the 16 series and that's the one thing even people that find the button otherwise useful (including myself) often complain about: that it's hard to hold the phone still when pressing the button to take a photo.
Doesn't help that you actually have to release the button again for a photo to be stored (so pressing the button doesn't actually fully take a photo until you release the button again), because holding down the button is reserved for quick take video.
I thought they'd trust their Taptic Engine to be able to distinguish between multiple stages of pressing a static element. That's what they're doing with their MacBook trackpads anyway. It could've also been customizable like the iPhone 7/8/SE2+3 home button.
Now, the level of pressure required for the full press is set in stone, at least for the 16 series and that's the one thing even people that find the button otherwise useful (including myself) often complain about: that it's hard to hold the phone still when pressing the button to take a photo.
Doesn't help that you actually have to release the button again for a photo to be stored (so pressing the button doesn't actually fully take a photo until you release the button again), because holding down the button is reserved for quick take video.
Exactly. Either these people have extremely weak fingers or they’re complaining just to complain. I’ve used the volume rocker buttons since forever to take a picture, and I’ve never had an issue of “moving the phone all over the place.”
He/she has weak hands and/or fingers. I’d recommend they work on their grip strength. Captains of Crush make great tools to improve one’s grip strength.
Why oh why does no one at Apple think of poaching all the guys on MR with all those great ideas?
Why don’t they work as developers at Apple?
No honestly, the guys at Apple know what they are doing!
Why don’t they work as developers at Apple?
No honestly, the guys at Apple know what they are doing!
But by that logic all buttons should go. Besides, human hand holding anything will ALWAYS have shake, just in varying degree. That’s what image stablisation is for.
And, you say none of those buttons take pictures? Action button do. Volume up button do. So what’s the deal?
Why are you talking about other buttons? This thread is about the useless camera button.
The volume buttons are also useless, is the point. You can change the volume from control centre, and apps where volume is important (like Music) give you an on screen volume control.
The volume buttons are great. Let’s talk about the useless camera button instead. You can start a new thread about the volume buttons if you like.
They serve no purpose though. Entire physical buttons (on an iPhone!) that just duplicate controls that are already in the iOS. How can you justify that?
I don’t know why you want to talk about other buttons. I like the volume buttons.
Lest we forget it was Apple capitulating to user wants instead of dictating user needs that got us from digital multitool to time-sucking portal. The Jobs era wasn't the end of innovation by a long shot. But it was the end of Apple giving us features but simultaneously showing us why we needed them.
Y’all keep saying add more ram.
For what? iOS doesn’t lag like android on smaller ram. Android NEEDS the ram. Y’all just want it for the sake of having it.
For what? iOS doesn’t lag like android on smaller ram. Android NEEDS the ram. Y’all just want it for the sake of having it.
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I should've been more clear. The primary purpose of all of those other buttons is not photo taking. The entire reason this whole new button was added was for taking photos, and it can't really be used for anything else. It's not a multi-purpose button (yet anyway).
Personally I'm not totally against it. But so far I'm also having an issue with it being kind of awkward. Like any other hardware or physical change, I'm sure it's something we'll all get better at and get used to over the next few weeks/months.
You're stretching a bit here (trolling a bit?) just to try to prove your point.
The location of the volume button is not great though. Because the camera is right behind it, and you can't hold it as comfortable as you would like without taking a snap of your fingers.
You're stretching a bit here (trolling a bit?) just to try to prove your point.
Absolutely. But I’m trying to point out, through example, that a) they shouldn’t remove something from the phone because he doesn’t personally like it, and b) key functions can justify their own physical button, even when the same action can be performed through the on-screen UI.
Watch Vadims video. Pressing it shakes the phone. You get blurry images. Utterly useless button.