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Are you returning your Xs/Xs Max for the Xr?


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Yeah, this is what I’m talking about. In this thread you’ve accused those who prefer the OLED iPhone screens of being spec chasers and painted them as sensitive. It’s obnoxious and unnecessary.
LOL. I haven't accused anyone of anything. You are reading far too much into things i.e. the over sensitivity comment. What's obnoxious is your continuing to turn a harmless thread into something negative. Drama starting is what you are doing. Stop.
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OLED phones are excellent. I wish I could use those devices. Some actually work fine for my eyes (Pixel 2, Oneplus devices) but since I always am on iOS it’s just the PWM settings Apple used on the iPhone X and again on the XS and XS Max. Until they change the frequency of those OLEDs I’ll have to continue using LCD. Whatever LCD device they offer which will be Xr this year.
OLED is an excellent technology for sure! I just prefer some of the characteristics of LCD. Call me old school. ;)
 
LOL. I haven't accused anyone of anything. You are reading far too much into things i.e. the over sensitivity comment. What's obnoxious is your continuing to turn a harmless thread into something negative. Drama starting is what you are doing. Stop.
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OLED is an excellent technology for sure! I just prefer some of the characteristics of LCD. Call me old school. ;)
I think LCD is “better” still, too. Just a way more mature technology. It’s ok to be old school ;)
 
OLED phones are excellent. I wish I could use those devices. Some actually work fine for my eyes (Pixel 2, Oneplus devices) but since I always am on iOS it’s just the PWM settings Apple used on the iPhone X and again on the XS and XS Max. Until they change the frequency of those OLEDs I’ll have to continue using LCD. Whatever LCD device they offer which will be Xr this year.
Dunno about the OnePlus, but I thought the Pixel 2 also uses a 240 Hz flicker.
 
I think LCD is “better” still, too. Just a way more mature technology. It’s ok to be old school ;)
Excellent word, "mature". Best description I have heard of it yet! I prefer mature technology. Thanks for giving that clarity!
 
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Save up more for what and why? Maybe for some the Xr is the wiser choice for a number of reasons. Some of which I just listed above your post.

Two things I wanted to mention that I have already personally experienced with the Xs Max is blue shift and image retention. I look forward to losing those on the Xr!
[doublepost=1537990550][/doublepost]And here's another video that helped sway me the Xr way:


HDR is in LCDs just to clear that up. The LG G6 uses a LCD display and offers HDR. I thought Apple should've used the 2160 x 1080p Japan Displays to get the smaller bezels rather than push at a 2x range.
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To me, I feel as if the Xr will end up like that iPhone 'C' range.

The 5C's chassis and repackaging is different though. You had an older SoC and a plastic chassis with older parts placed into the device.

XR has the latest SoC, a major part of the latest iPhone camera system, more RAM than the 6/6S/7/8 that it replaces as the new entry level product.

The XR is destined to be the best selling 2018 iPhone. The XS Max will finish second probably. Too bad the XR wasn't released this month because I would've loved to try it out before I got the XS Max.
 
HDR is in LCDs just to clear that up. The LG G6 uses a LCD display and offers HDR. I thought Apple should've used the 2160 x 1080p Japan Displays to get the smaller bezels rather than push at a 2x range.
They wouldn't use an 2:1 display. They'd stick with the 19.5:9 aspect ratio, but yeah, a 401 ppi 6.1" display would be excellent.

It would be 1024p at 2218x1024.

Only problem is it would require 3x processing and then downscaling. Not a big deal though, as the 7 Plus and 8 Plus show us.
 
They wouldn't use an 2:1 display. They'd stick with the 19.5:9 aspect ratio, but yeah, a 401 ppi 6.1" display would be excellent.

It would be 1024p at 2218x1024.

Only problem is it would require 3x processing and then downscaling. Not a big deal though, as the 7 Plus and 8 Plus show us.
We all know how Apple likes to make that $$$!
 
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They wouldn't use an 2:1 display. They'd stick with the 19.5:9 aspect ratio, but yeah, a 401 ppi 6.1" display would be excellent.

It would be 1024p at 2218x1024.

Only problem is it would require 3x processing and then downscaling. Not a big deal though, as the 7 Plus and 8 Plus show us.

I still think the XR would have the best battery life with that distinction in place. But why couldn't it be like 2280 x 1080p like the OnePlus 6 since that has minimal bezels and a non 16:9 aspect ratio. If it's 18:9 or 19.5:9, doesn't matter right?
 
I still think the XR would have the best battery life with that distinction in place. But why couldn't it be like 2280 x 1080p like the OnePlus 6 since that has minimal bezels and a non 16:9 aspect ratio. If it's 18:9 or 19.5:9, doesn't matter right?
It matters for consistency. The OnePlus 6 is a 19:9 screen. If they made an iPhone 19:9 then it would just add yet another oddball screen ratio that developers would have to deal with. If they make it 19.5:9, then it makes it a lot easier for the developers to deal with, since the X, XS, XR, and XS Max are all 19.5:9.

If you're set on having it 1080p instead of 1024p like I suggested, then it would be 2340x1080p, which would mean a pretty big phone. With the bezels it'd be bigger than the XS Max.
 
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It matters for consistency. The OnePlus 6 is a 19:9 screen. If they made an iPhone 19:9 then it would just add yet another oddball screen ratio that developers would have to deal with. If they make it 19.5:9, then it makes it a lot easier for the developers to deal with, since the X, XS, XR, and XS Max are all 19.5:9.

If you're set on having it 1080p instead of 1024p like I suggested, then it would be 2340x1080p, which would mean a pretty big phone. With the bezels it'd be bigger than the XS Max.

Nah, I would've compromised w/ the 828p display if I went XR. I went XS Max due to a BOGO deal from T-Mobile.
 
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Big news, guys: Andrew J Shepard over at WiWavelength has discerned from FCC filings that the XR, while dropping the 4x4 MIMO antenna, largely seems to improve upon (if not solve) the antenna gain situation of the XS/XS Max.

“Upon examining the certified lab tested RF data and crunching some numbers, what is immediately apparent is that the iPhone XR has — as expected — dropped the 4x4 MIMO antenna design from the iPhone XS and XS Max in favor of a standard 2x2 MIMO antenna. This tradeoff of fewer antennas and MIMO channels, though, ostensibly has allowed for greater antenna gain and, concomitantly, higher radiated output power compared to those same metrics on the iPhone XS and XS Max.”
 
How are you liking your Max? Any issues?

I love it! Feels nice in the hands, strong build quality, amazing screen, tremendous speakers, top quality camera, great battery life. Highly recommend it to people who like big devices. But you really cannot go wrong with any of the 2018 iPhones.

At first, only small issue was confirming if my device's display was calibrated properly, which it was. I compared to a family member's XS Max and an Apple Store's to see that my device is a quality one.
 
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Big news, guys: Andrew J Shepard over at WiWavelength has discerned from FCC filings that the XR, while dropping the 4x4 MIMO antenna, largely seems to improve upon (if not solve) the antenna gain situation of the XS/XS Max.

“Upon examining the certified lab tested RF data and crunching some numbers, what is immediately apparent is that the iPhone XR has — as expected — dropped the 4x4 MIMO antenna design from the iPhone XS and XS Max in favor of a standard 2x2 MIMO antenna. This tradeoff of fewer antennas and MIMO channels, though, ostensibly has allowed for greater antenna gain and, concomitantly, higher radiated output power compared to those same metrics on the iPhone XS and XS Max.”
That is absolutely fantastic news! One more + for the Xr!!
 
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I'm considering returning mine because of PWM. I can't tell if it's just a mental thing, which is frustrating. I do feel like it hurts my eyes and makes me lightly nauseous. It's certainly not a comfortable display for me to look at.

The unfortunate thing is that I'm going to be on vacation on my 14th day of ownership, so I'd need to return it in the next couple of days before I leave... leaving me with my SE camera on a pretty big vacation.
 
I'm considering returning mine because of PWM. I can't tell if it's just a mental thing, which is frustrating. I do feel like it hurts my eyes and makes me lightly nauseous. It's certainly not a comfortable display for me to look at.

The unfortunate thing is that I'm going to be on vacation on my 14th day of ownership, so I'd need to return it in the next couple of days before I leave... leaving me with my SE camera on a pretty big vacation.
It’s worth the temporary tradeoff, in my view; plus, the SE camera isn’t all that terrible.
 
I'm considering returning mine because of PWM. I can't tell if it's just a mental thing, which is frustrating. I do feel like it hurts my eyes and makes me lightly nauseous. It's certainly not a comfortable display for me to look at.

The unfortunate thing is that I'm going to be on vacation on my 14th day of ownership, so I'd need to return it in the next couple of days before I leave... leaving me with my SE camera on a pretty big vacation.


Ha ha! You think you have it bad?! I will be stuck using this THING for almost 3 weeks!!!

Not to mention that I have a new Apple Watch 4 that will just be sitting here useless until I can get an Xr. Talk about OLD SCHOOL! I will feel young again, er'm maybe... Have a laugh on me peeps! LMAO

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Big news, guys: Andrew J Shepard over at WiWavelength has discerned from FCC filings that the XR, while dropping the 4x4 MIMO antenna, largely seems to improve upon (if not solve) the antenna gain situation of the XS/XS Max.

“Upon examining the certified lab tested RF data and crunching some numbers, what is immediately apparent is that the iPhone XR has — as expected — dropped the 4x4 MIMO antenna design from the iPhone XS and XS Max in favor of a standard 2x2 MIMO antenna. This tradeoff of fewer antennas and MIMO channels, though, ostensibly has allowed for greater antenna gain and, concomitantly, higher radiated output power compared to those same metrics on the iPhone XS and XS Max.”
Okay that’s a good thing for the call quality, right? But does that expose us to more radiation? This sort of thing is not my strong suit.
 
Okay that’s a good thing for the call quality, right? But does that expose us to more radiation? This sort of thing is not my strong suit.
That much isn’t so clear, at least as far as I’ve read. I was under the assumption that the worse the signal is, the harder devices have to work to establish/maintain a signal, leading to greater radiated output. I actually do typically care much more than the average person about radiation exposure but as things stand now I just want my shiny new device to be able to make calls without dropping them.
 
So after owning a Xs Max I have decided that I am going to return it and wait for the Xr.

The reasons why you might ask...

I can think of 5 great reasons.

1. Image persistence/retention
2. Blue shift
3. PWM sensitivity
4. Battery efficiency
5. Saving $

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...of-wi-fi-and-lte-connectivity-issues.2142500/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-x-screen-on-ios12-saturated.2138771/

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...w-tint-xs-xs-max.2140260/page-3#post-26533322


Just wondering who else is following suit?
Surprised the crappy RF the X S Max gets isn't your main reason.
 
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