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Are you returning your Xs/Xs Max for the Xr?


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Long press the space bar to get cursor mode on your iPad.
Thanks for the tip.

Yep I know it's there, it is just the muscle memory I am fighting over anything, and when I do that on my Pixel (with the keyboard I have) it does totally different things, so I usually forget on the iPad.
 
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Thanks for the tip.

Yep I know it's there, it is just the muscle memory I am fighting over anything, and when I do that on my Pixel (with the keyboard I have) it does totally different things, so I usually forget on the iPad.
It's the same on the iPhone too. I have turned off 3D Touch and use long press instead to get cursor mode on the iPhone.

This is one example of better UI consistency offered by the lack of 3D Touch.
 
It's the same on the iPhone too. I have turned off 3D Touch and use long press instead to get cursor mode on the iPhone.

This is one example of better UI consistency offered by the lack of 3D Touch.
Do you know what the implementation of Haptic Touch in the Xr is going to be like?
 
It's the same on the iPhone too. I have turned off 3D Touch and use long press instead to get cursor mode on the iPhone.

This is one example of better UI consistency offered by the lack of 3D Touch.
That or the inverse, the need for 3D Touch on the iPad to keep things more consistent. In some form it is on all MacBooks, the watch but is lacking on the iPad at this point.

I am a bit bull headed about the topic I like the feature and feel it ads value to iOS. But, it is only an opinion and I acknowledge that.
 
I traded my 8 Plus for the regular XS. The screen is about as big but the device is smaller which I love. I’m a guy with big hands too who has used Plus models exclusively since the 6+. But the screen size of 5.8 is plenty big. It’s so nice to have it in a compact size. I don’t need 6 Plus inches of screen. The XS is a seeet spot for me. The XR looks good but I love this oled screen. Nice too as I wear polarized glasses and the oled screen isn’t effected like lcd. Love this phone.
 
That or the inverse, the need for 3D Touch on the iPad to keep things more consistent. In some form it is on all MacBooks, the watch but is lacking on the iPad at this point.

I am a bit bull headed about the topic I like the feature and feel it ads value to iOS. But, it is only an opinion and I acknowledge that.
I don't think the iPad will ever get 3D Touch.

And judging by the way things are going with loss of 3D Touch on the XR with CGS, and CGS coming to the OLEDs in 2019, there is a good chance 3D Touch will be gone for good in 2019. Either that or it will be status quo.

Do you know what the implementation of Haptic Touch in the Xr is going to be like?
No, since I have never handled an XR. However, I suspect it's probably going to be like how long-press haptic touch is now. For example, for the long-press spacebar cursor mode on the iPhone, just before it enters cursor more it sends haptic feedback. I suspect that's all it is on the XR too, but I don't know for sure.
 
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Usually it’s the other way round. OLED is easier to see in sunlight. Be interesting if what you say is true though.

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I don't think the iPad will ever get 3D Touch.

And judging by the way things are going with loss of 3D Touch on the XR with CGS, and CGS coming to the OLEDs in 2019, there is a good chance 3D Touch will be gone for good in 2019. Either that or it will be status quo.


No, since I have never handled an XR. However, I suspect it's probably going to be like how long-press haptic touch is now. For example, for the long-press spacebar cursor mode, just before it enters cursor more it sends haptic feedback. I suspect that's all it is on the XR too, but I don't know for sure.

It's possible, but the SE didn't have 3D Touch, and it is gone, possibly having been replaced by the XR that also lacks that feature. ( I should clarify, it bumped the SE off the table, replacing the low end device with the 7 at this point).

The iPhone 5c had a lesser processor and camera as compared to the 5S of the day as a way of cost saving, perhaps dropping 3D Touch, the 2X lens and moving to LCD on the XR is the modern equivalent.

As of now, we can only really speculate on the fate of 3D Touch until next September's media event.
 
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My signature makes it pretty transparent about what my position is. Yet as a mere mortal I don't think anybody would take an XR for free over an XSMax. It's a money thing which seems to elude you.

Presuming cost wasn’t a factor (i.e. they cost the same, so no bias towards getting a free MAX because it’s worth more), I’d prefer the XR.

LCD offers lower battery consumption than OLED at medium-high (and greater) screen brightness, and fewer pixels, which should result in amazing battery life. It’s also smaller, and that would help me handle the longer screen. I’m fine with the physical size of the Max, as I am of the 8 Plus, but the screen is so tall that I think having a slightly narrower phone would really make it a better phone to own and use in the long term.

I’ll wait until I get my hands on an XR to make sure, but having tried the Max at an Apple Store, I think I’d go for the XR.
 
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If your device had an image retention issue then something was horribly wrong with it. It’s literally a non-issue for these OLED screens for at least 2 years.

And the blue shift thing....seriously...? Another non-issue brought on by people looking for something to complain about. I was unaware that turning your phone to a nearby unreadable angle was such a popular way to use the device!

Anyways, enjoy the XR
 
Presuming cost wasn’t a factor (i.e. they cost the same, so no bias towards getting a free MAX because it’s worth more), I’d prefer the XR.

LCD offers lower battery consumption than OLED at medium-high (and greater) screen brightness, and fewer pixels, which should result in amazing battery life. It’s also smaller, and that would help me handle the longer screen. I’m fine with the physical size of the Max, as I am of the 8 Plus, but the screen is so tall that I think having a slightly narrower phone would really make it a better phone to own and use in the long term.

I’ll wait until I get my hands on an XR to make sure, but having tried the Max at an Apple Store, I think I’d go for the XR.
Excellent point! The playing field changes altogether when you take away the price factor. That way people aren’t falsely attaching the “better” tag to something simply because it costs more.
 
The max nits of the LCD models and the OLEDs is rated the same by Apple. These aren't LCD TVs or OLED TVs.
Totally aware of that. I was just speaking in generalities here that in most cases LCDs can and will be brighter.
 
If you care about battery life, color choices and value, get the XR line.
If you care about the screen quality, 3D Touch, better water resistance and dual camera lens, get the XS line.
There is an iPhone for everyone according to Tim Cook.
 
I have returned my XS and have resumed using my trusty iPhone 8 Plus; I plan to preorder the XR in October. I usually go for the darkest colorway possible (Space Gray is a comfort zone) but I’m feeling a wind of change and may go with the XR in white—the white glass shell paired with the black band around the screen makes for a monochromatic temptation!

On a more practical note, and on top of everything already showcased, I hope for two main things out of the XR:
  1. That the LCD screen will not pulse-width modulate like those of the XR's more expensive counterparts (this being the main reason I returned the XS; apparently I am quite sensitive to PWM since after less than an hour of use my eyes felt incredibly fatigued and strained and I felt a distinct, unsettling nausea)
  2. That although the modem/antenna configuration might not be significantly different than that found in the XS/XS Max, the aluminum (rather than stainless steel) band will yield somewhat-better cellular/WiFi signal: Although the pulse-width modulation display issue is somewhat subjective, the antenna marks a real flaw in these handsets’ designs despite varying user reports. As for my own (admittedly-short) experience using the XS I did in fact notice markedly worse cellular and WiFi reception in my home.
 
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I have returned my XS and resumed using my trusty iPhone 8 Plus and plan to preorder the XR in October. I usually go for the darkest colorway possible (Space Gray is a comfort zone) but I’m feeling a wind of change and may go with the XR in white—the white glass shell paired with the black band around the screen makes for a monochromatic temptation!

On a more practical note, and on top of everything already showcased, I hope for three main things out of the XR:
  1. That the LCD screen will not pulse-width modulate like those of its more expensive counterparts (this being the main reason I returned the XS; apparently I am quite sensitive to PWM since after less than an hour of use my eyes felt incredibly fatigued, strained, and I felt a distinct, unsettling nausea)
  2. That although the modem/antenna configuration might not be significantly different than that found in the XS/XS Max, the aluminium (rather than stainless steel) band will yield somewhat-better cellular/wifi signal. Although the pulse-width modulation display issue is somewhat subjective, the antenna marks a real flaw in these handsets’ designs despite varying user reports. As for my own experience I did in fact notice markedly worse cellular and wifi reception in my home during my (admittedly short) use.
I am with you on both points.
 
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We shall see... I loved my 8+ and I have PWM sensitivity so I am certain I will love the Xr. As I said before, I hope Apple never fully abandons LCDs because there are instances when it is better for certain people. I am one of those people.
[doublepost=1538004197][/doublepost]https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/7uv6m3/iphone_x_uses_pulse_width_modulation_which_is_a/

So what it amounts to is you gotta love the XR because you can't deal with the OLED on the XS models. Gotcha! Since you like to quote analyst most of them say the writing is on the wall chances are pretty high by the 2020 model iPhones there will be no LCD screens.
 
So what it amounts to is you gotta love the XR because you can't deal with the OLED on the XS models. Gotcha! Keep coming back! The writing is on the wall chances are pretty high by the 2020 model iPhones there will be no LCD screens.
I hope you are wrong. There will always be a place for LCD screens in my opinion.

And no, that’s not the only reason I’m sure I’ll love the Xr.
 
Edited for clarity−apparently I can't count.


As far as mainstream OLED technology currently stands (especially Apple's implementation of it), I am with you here; I love a good, reliable, non-nausea-inducing LCD display.
Having your cellphone NOT be the cause of vomiting or seizures is indeed excellent!
 
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I hope you are wrong. There will always be a place for LCD screens in my opinion.

And no, that’s not the only reason I’m sure I’ll love the Xr.

Well I hope the analyst are wrong... I really don't know! I do believe there is a market for LCD displays on the iPhone and Apple doing this is probably going to prove to be a very smart move. I do prefer the OLED, but I'd be happy with the LCD. I think the resolution thing is much to do about nothing, but I guess we'll see when the XR is released. You know most of the cellular plans these days cap video at 480p or 720p, though you can opt for higher resolution on some plans. It just makes sense in todays world especially with US carriers.
 
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I have returned my XS and have resumed using my trusty iPhone 8 Plus; I plan to preorder the XR in October. I usually go for the darkest colorway possible (Space Gray is a comfort zone) but I’m feeling a wind of change and may go with the XR in white—the white glass shell paired with the black band around the screen makes for a monochromatic temptation!

On a more practical note, and on top of everything already showcased, I hope for two main things out of the XR:
  1. That the LCD screen will not pulse-width modulate like those of the XR's more expensive counterparts (this being the main reason I returned the XS; apparently I am quite sensitive to PWM since after less than an hour of use my eyes felt incredibly fatigued and strained and I felt a distinct, unsettling nausea)
  2. That although the modem/antenna configuration might not be significantly different than that found in the XS/XS Max, the aluminum (rather than stainless steel) band will yield somewhat-better cellular/WiFi signal: Although the pulse-width modulation display issue is somewhat subjective, the antenna marks a real flaw in these handsets’ designs despite varying user reports. As for my own (admittedly-short) experience using the XS I did in fact notice markedly worse cellular and WiFi reception in my home.
Personally I don't see a huge benefit of going from the 8 Plus to the XR. More of a cross-grade,

The 8 Plus has a better quality screen and dual-lens camera, and the SoC isn't much slower than the XR's. The XR does show more on-screen, but the screen is narrower with a lower ppi.
 
Personally I don't see a huge benefit of going from the 8 Plus to the XR. More of a cross-grade,

The 8 Plus has a better quality screen and dual-lens camera, and the SoC isn't much slower than the XR's. The XR does show more on-screen, but the screen is narrower with a lower ppi.
Right…which is exactly why I’m not sure if I’ll end up keeping the XR. The improved battery life, upgraded SoC, and unique colorways are all intriguing selling points, and I honestly couldn’t care much less about the camera. The notched, lower-PPI display, although lending itself to overall better battery life and greater performance, may honestly be the deal-breaker.

Typically I haven’t been in love with the displays of 326-PPI devices I’ve owned (iPhone 5, iPhone 6, iPhone SE), but the 6.1” size and specific form factor are admittedly rather compelling.
 
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