Safari on macos 12 is so clean and functional

[mikecwest]

Both Pin tabs and fav bar is still there on the new safari

Yeah, they are there, but they do not function as previously. I want my pinned tabs to stay in one spot. I find it annoying that the. URL bar jumps around and the order of the pinned tabs changes plates. I like how previously, I could rename a pinned tab to be simpler the "H" for my employers website for example.

 

[mango316]

Private Relay is slowing my browser speed. Anyone else having the same issue?

It’s not just slow but halted altogether and I had to reboot my Mac to get websites load again! Such a pain in the arse! Hopefully Apple could resolve this soon with whicnever DNS‘s companies they partner with to provide the new Privacy feature!

 

[dburkhanaev]

It’s not just slow but halted altogether and I had to reboot my Mac to get websites load again! Such a pain in the arse! Hopefully Apple could resolve this soon with whicnever DNS‘s companies they partner with to provide the new Privacy feature!

You aren’t alone in this. It’s stalled me a few times. At first I was at a loss. Having used a VPN and not being able to use the VPN in Monterey I couldn’t figure out what the deal was. Then I remembered the private relay and private IP masking.

Seems it can get bogged down sometimes.

 

[dburkhanaev]

So if you want to view bookmarks now there is no little menu that they conveniently drop down from. You have to invoke a large sidebar, click bookmarks, and then browse for what you’re looking for. So you get to add two steps while introducing a rather large UI element?

How is this space-saving? It’s not efficient that’s for certain. It just looks less cluttered until you actually need something that isn’t in the search bar. Then it’s a myriad of clicks and menus and gimmicks to get what you want. No more click and done because using a few more pixels to have a persistent menu would be a waste?

I want whatever these guys are giving their bosses. Because whoever’s in charge is accepting a big load of horse squeeze as a good idea while getting paid money to develop it and having Craig Federighi pushing it in a WWDC like it’s innovation. Must be good sh^t they are shoveling in Cupertino.

 

[11235813]

So if you want to view bookmarks now there is no little menu that they conveniently drop down from. You have to invoke a large sidebar, click bookmarks, and then browse for what you’re looking for. So you get to add two steps while introducing a rather large UI element?

I think they expect people to use Favorites instead of Bookmarks now. Bookmarks have always been unusable for me anyway due to Apple insisting on not showing favicons in the list. You have one touch access to favorites by tapping the address bar. Just tap "Show All" on the right to see your entire list.

 

[dburkhanaev]

I think they expect people to use Favorites instead of Bookmarks now. Bookmarks have always been unusable for me anyway due to Apple insisting on not showing favicons in the list. You have one touch access to favorites by tapping the address bar. Just tap "Show All" on the right to see your entire list.

I use that too, but it’s not my whole list and it doesn’t have my bookmark folders. I have separation of folders for work and contracts and other things. My favorites are just for me and my personal favorites really. But I’m sure they think that’s where people are always going. I think you’re right about the mindset of the developers. I am sure they don’t that pushing a drop down menu into a sidebar is a waste of time and space for some of us.

 

[mikecwest]

I use that too, but it’s not my whole list and it doesn’t have my bookmark folders. I have separation of folders for work and contracts and other things. My favorites are just for me and my personal favorites really. But I’m sure they think that’s where people are always going. I think you’re right about the mindset of the developers. I am sure they don’t that pushing a drop down menu into a sidebar is a waste of time and space for some of us.

I have a series of folders on my favorites bar, with short titles like $ for bills,  for apple stuff like macrumors, H for my work, F for Facebook, etc.

 

[mikecwest]

I use that too, but it’s not my whole list and it doesn’t have my bookmark folders. I have separation of folders for work and contracts and other things. My favorites are just for me and my personal favorites really. But I’m sure they think that’s where people are always going. I think you’re right about the mindset of the developers. I am sure they don’t that pushing a drop down menu into a sidebar is a waste of time and space for some of us.

I have a series of folders on my favorites bar, with short titles like $ for bills,  for apple stuff like macrumors, H for my work, F for Facebook, etc.

 

[hideous cheese]

My safari theory is its all part of Apple’s cunning plan. Make it unusable and force people to other browsers.

 

[Kung gu]

My safari theory is its all part of Apple’s cunning plan. Make it unusable and force people to other browsers.

I don't know about others but I got used to the new safari. In fact I use keyboard shortcuts more now when using safari and it me more efficient.

 

[coffeeplease]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1404621345112084483

 

[tomtad]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1404621345112084483

I guarantee this will be an option in Preferences by the end of the betas.

 

[dburkhanaev]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1404621345112084483

That's cool. I'll go back up the current folder and try it out myself.

 

[FNH15]

I guarantee this will be an option in Preferences by the end of the betas.

Agreed. I just turned it on and it’s not just the Safari 14 UI - there are some new glyphs in the toolbar and other aspects of the new UI design language are still present, like the lighter line around the URL. Intriguingly, turning this UI on turns off the new color-sensitive aspect of the UI.

 

[alien3dx]

Private Relay is slowing my browser speed. Anyone else having the same issue?

are private relay on by default.. it hell annoyance me .

 

[bmac89]

My safari theory is its all part of Apple’s cunning plan. Make it unusable and force people to other browsers.

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They broke mail app in iPadOS 13 and simultaneously provided ability to set third party apps as default!

 

[lupinglade]

I guarantee this will be an option in Preferences by the end of the betas.

It better be! Its unusable as it is.

 

[a m u n]

Details

https://twitter.com/x/status/1403406997387632652

 

[colodane]

"Wow!" or "WTF!" ??

 

[saimonsays1991]

The share button is GONE! can't even enable it on the toolbar... This is bad!

 

[Chris Grande]

I don't think the claim was that you couldn't. I think the aggravation (unnecessary) is that the space is so tiny you really have to zero in on that to not hit an open tab that you aren't currently using. Because god forbid you click on one of thirty open tabs you're not actually using at the moment and then try to get back to where you were before inside this very ill-considered UI.

It really wasn't well thought out. This is well below what I expect from Apple.

If you just click and drag on a tab, the window moves normally — if you hold on the tab for a second or so then you move the tab.

 

[dburkhanaev]

If you just click and drag on a tab, the window moves normally — if you hold on the tab for a second or so then you move the tab.


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You're right it works. But you wouldn't guess that by looking at it. But maybe I'm the only idiot who will miss that.

 

[mikecwest]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1404621345112084483

OMG, THANK YOU SO MUCXH

 

[thingstoponder]

I kinda agree-- this is just "change for the sake of change" IMHO… (I also think that by 2024 there will not be iOS, iPadOS or macOS-- it's all going to be "appleOS 20" -- still hope they retain the FINDER in Mac!! (Indeed what iOS needs is a serious FINDER where one can store files -- not just within apps nor only via the FILES app. I never use the DOCUMENTS folder on Mac instead have a hierarchical system of 18 MAIN folders where I store everything from Family to Finance to Health to Cameras to Mac to SugarSync to my business etc. etc.) OK sorry I'm getting off-topic - Steve Friday 11 June 2021

Apple has repeatedly said they are not merging the OSes. And even if they did merge the names it would just be semantics. There’s just no way they can all run the same OS. Even now the iPad and iPhone have radically different Safari UIs with the new OSes. iOS is fundamentally a phone OS and macOS is fundamentally a desktop OS. How can you bridge that gap with one OS and one UI? You cannot. iPadOS is somewhere in the middle and may resemble macOS more in the future but even then it cannot be the same as macOS because of smaller screens and ram limitation in cheaper devices. Not to mention macOS isn’t a touch OS and Macs are not going touch screen. Remember all the people who thought Apple Silicon will for sure mean touch screen Macs? Crickets from them these days. Even the redesigned Macs aren’t getting them.

And I doubt the iPad Pro will run a different OS than the cheap iPads.

 

[revs]

Having used the preview for a while - overall I like it. But the tabs moving as I change between them is quite annoying. If they can make tabs 'stay' where they are, then I'd much prefer that