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Or not. Could be coming sooner than that. You really don't know. At least LCD doesn't burn in.

Burn in is an extremely rare occurrence nowadays. Someone would literately have to keep their screen on 24/7 for several days or longer at a high brightness to achieve that. Other than that, they probably will never experience it at all, or be unlucky enough to experience it with normal usage after 5+ years.
 

jamezr

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Burn in is an extremely rare occurrence nowadays. Someone would literately have to keep their screen on 24/7 for several days or longer at a high brightness to achieve that. Other than that, they probably will never experience it at all, or be unlucky enough to experience it with normal usage after 5+ years.
Apple is going all OLED for iphones next year. So soon the apologist won't have that to complain about either. Lets see we can take away sales from them....now profits too...so they proclaim how much better LCD displays are but soon ALL iphones will have OLED displays.
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You have a S8? I can handle the S8 easier than the regular iPhone 7, I got both. With dry hands the iPhone moves like a freakin soap in my hand, glass gives more friction.
Same here....I have the S8+ and 7+ and the 7+ is by far more slippery that the S8+.
 
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I7guy

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Nothing but a meme circulated to be the cool guy on the block. Its just like how people make wisecracks about Internet Explorer on Windows despite the newer versions being smoother than chrome
It's a meme that is very prevalent all over the internet.

Is that why every iPhone needs 5 exchanges before settling on one without yellow tint?
Nothing like a hyperbolic generalization that has no basis in reality. Eh?

If it wasnt fixed than I see it nothing more than a fixable iPhone yellow tint variant issue

1) Samsung has acknowledged this issue and released a software fix. they also encouraged people to return their devices if the fix doesn't help to mitigate it. 2) all mentioned above display anomalies are due to QA during OLED manufacturing process and automatic factory calibration that doesn't adjust to such anomalies.

However some of my acquaintances no longer have that tint
Seems there are still complaints about it even after the update. Of course, those could be out and out hardware issue.

Its an issue for people with small hands which Samsung solved with the S8
I'm not having problems and that's where it ends for me.

I use wired headphones with the highest sound quality and no lag. Airdrop enables bluetooth which drains battery.

Are you seriosuly trying to get me to explain how bluetooth uses battery?I mean itsb een that way since my Sony days in 2005
Are you seriously trying to say you use your wireless headphones through NFC? Your argument is not cogent at all.

LCD suffers from perpetual yellow tint for generations on end and dead pixels and backlight bleed. MicroLED will come with its own fair share of issues
My iphone 4 from 2010 begs to differ and you can't possibly know how micro-led will pan out to the negative.

No its not. The reason Apple invented Jet Black was BECAUSE the iPhone was handling like a bar of soap when naked. The Jet Black can be a match for the S8 in the slipperiness department but loses when it comes to "handability" and durability
To me the s8 is as slippery as a bar of soap as you put it. The iphone 7 much less so, if at all.

If I lose 40 bucks on the highway, will I lose sleep over it? That is the equivalent of Samsung's position here
The mobile division still took a drubbing; $8B give or take is still $8B, but it's great that you're playing fast and loose with Samsung's revenue.
 

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Burn in is an extremely rare occurrence nowadays. Someone would literately have to keep their screen on 24/7 for several days or longer at a high brightness to achieve that. Other than that, they probably will never experience it at all, or be unlucky enough to experience it with normal usage after 5+ years.

i7Guy is trying to find a problem which isn't there. The honest reality is that the chances of one getting a yellow tinted LCD are much higher than getting burn.
 

jamezr

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i7Guy is trying to find a problem which isn't there. The honest reality is that the chances of one getting a yellow tinted LCD are much higher than getting burn.
He has nothing else now. The apologist used to exclaim sales sales sales.......then it was all about profits....profits profits..... so now that all those things are gone....the apologist has to grasp at whatever straws he can.
 

torana355

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i7Guy is trying to find a problem which isn't there. The honest reality is that the chances of one getting a yellow tinted LCD are much higher than getting burn.
Seriously don't waste your time with him. Im almost in tears laughing at some of his responses. His defence of LED panels is great, really made me laugh. Backlight bleed and black inconsistacy alone makes the LCD/LED no match for OLED. I know a few people with LG OLED tvs that play games on them often and they don't have any burn in. Burn in only happens if you abuse it and leave the same static image on for days.

The IR retention on the iMac LCD panels happens after a 10-20 mins, you can get rid of it but it comes right back. We have the same issue on over 10 2012 iMacs at work. Not to mention the multiple threads about the Yellow tint issue on both iPhone and MacBook panels. Ive NEVER had to return a Samsung AMOLED phone due to the screen. The final nail in the coffin is that Apple themselves are going to be using OLED now lol. Im sure i7 guy will defend OLED once it is in the iPhone lol
 
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I7guy

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Seriously don't waste your time with him. Im almost in tears laughing at some of his responses. His defence of LED panels is great, really made me laugh. Backlight bleed and black inconsistacy alone makes the LCD/LED no match for OLED. I know a few people with LG OLED tvs that play games on them often and they don't have any burn in. Burn in only happens if you abuse it and leave the same static image on for days.

The IR retention on the iMac LCD panels happens after a 10-20 mins, you can get rid of it but it comes right back. We have the same issue on over 10 2012 iMacs at work. Not to mention the multiple threads about the Yellow tint issue on both iPhone and MacBook panels. Ive NEVER had to return a Samsung AMOLED phone due to the screen. The final nail in the coffin is that Apple themselves are going to be using OLED now lol. Im sure i7 guy will defend OLED once it is in the iPhone lol
Champ, oled suffers burn in...it's the nature of the beast. People have been returning lg oled tvs for burn in - as reported in various threads of review sites.
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He has nothing else now. The apologist used to exclaim sales sales sales.......then it was all about profits....profits profits..... so now that all those things are gone....the apologist has to grasp at whatever straws he can.
Lol, Samsung mobile phone division still took a drubbing compared to iohobe sales. But if it gives you the warm and fuzzies to compare the entirety of 2 businesses with different business models/lines of business you go for it.:rolleyes: It makes logical sense to compare a semiconductor business and washing machines with phones and App Store. And champ, you're the only one comparing profits of dissimilar companies.
 

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Champ, oled suffers burn in...it's the nature of the beast. People have been returning lg oled tvs for burn in - as reported in various threads of review sites.
Champ, LCD suffers from Image retention, backlight bleed, Screen Uniformity issues and limited viewing angles (colour and contrast changes depending on angle viewed) What exactly is your point? People might take you seriously if you actually condeded that some things are done better by companies that don't start with A and end with E. Anyway I guess im an idiot for responding to your posts again.
 
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Who cares if we get oled burn ins? I don't keep my phone long enough for it to matter.

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Gs8
and a few notes and iPhones in between lol

If you even do an upgrade every 2 years burn in won't really be an issue.no one keeps there phones longer than 2 years anymore especially with trade in programs and special offers
 

Radon87000

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Just purchased a 10.5 iPad from Amazon and it came with uneven whites on the bottom right of the screen most noticeable when reading or turning the iPad upside down.Back it goes until I get a proper working unit. At least the 8 solves my problem as I would rather deal with the burn in than this.
 
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Klyster

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Who cares if we get oled burn ins? I don't keep my phone long enough for it to matter.

Gs3
Gs4
Gs5
Gs7
Gs8
and a few notes and iPhones in between lol

If you even do an upgrade every 2 years burn in won't really be an issue.no one keeps there phones longer than 2 years anymore especially with trade in programs and special offers

I got burn on my S2 and Note 4 in less than a year.
Was fixed under warranty on the Note 4.
I sold the S2 with burn but showed the buyer first.
I'm not saying they will all get burn, rather some will get burn, it does happen.
My Tab S 10.5 is years old and the screen is perfect still :)
 
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I7guy

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Champ, LCD suffers from Image retention, backlight bleed, Screen Uniformity issues and limited viewing angles (colour and contrast changes depending on angle viewed) What exactly is your point? People might take you seriously if you actually condeded that some things are done better by companies that don't start with A and end with E. Anyway I guess im an idiot for responding to your posts again.
Champ, I'd rather deal with the "problems" from LCD than the "problems" from OLED. I've yet to see one OLED screen I like, but that is my opinion. I don't know if QLED has resolved the issue of uneven wear, but we'll see.

As far as who takes who seriously on this forum, that has to be earned, and thus far it's a narrow sliver of posters that has actually earned that. All are entitled to share their opinions around here according to the rules. https://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/200275117-Forum-Rules
 

jamezr

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Champ, LCD suffers from Image retention, backlight bleed, Screen Uniformity issues and limited viewing angles (colour and contrast changes depending on angle viewed) What exactly is your point? People might take you seriously if you actually condeded that some things are done better by companies that don't start with A and end with E. Anyway I guess im an idiot for responding to your posts again.
Gotta just ignore the apologists on this forum.......it servers no purpose to engage him.
 
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Radon87000

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Champ, I'd rather deal with the "problems" from LCD than the "problems" from OLED. I've yet to see one OLED screen I like, but that is my opinion. I don't know if QLED has resolved the issue of uneven wear, but we'll see.

As far as who takes who seriously on this forum, that has to be earned, and thus far it's a narrow sliver of posters that has actually earned that. All are entitled to share their opinions around here according to the rules. https://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/200275117-Forum-Rules

Well then you are out of luck. The top end iPhone is all OLED and we have the entire lineup going OLED next year. Maybe just stick to Sony and HtC if you want LCD. The big dogs have dumped that tech. Next year iPad will also be OLED prolly
 

torana355

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Gotta just ignore the apologists on this forum.......it servers no purpose to engage him.
I know, silly me. Its just hard when you see some of the responses. OLED is widely regarded in AV circles to have the best picture quality, then you get some muppet saying he has not seen an OLED panel he likes :rolleyes:. Its not even a matter of opinion, its just a fact OLED provides the better picture.
 
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I7guy

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Well then you are out of luck. The top end iPhone is all OLED and we have the entire lineup going OLED next year. Maybe just stick to Sony and HtC if you want LCD. The big dogs have dumped that tech. Next year iPad will also be OLED prolly
Not really, there is the 7s. By the time I'm ready micro-led will be in production dumping the issues of oled in the past.
 

I7guy

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I know, silly me. Its just hard when you see some of the responses. OLED is widely regarded in AV circles to have the best picture quality, then you get some muppet saying he has not seen an OLED panel he likes :rolleyes:. Its not even a matter of opinion, its just a fact OLED provides the better picture.
This has devolved into the expected pissing contest.

Just to clarify, I buy my tech with my own dollars and get to judge what I think is best.
 

Radon87000

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Not really, there is the 7s. By the time I'm ready micro-led will be in production dumping the issues of oled in the past.

The 7S is no longer the high end iPhone. Thats the 8. Apple doesnt switch technologies that rapidly. Even TouchID remained on the iPhone for 4 years before Apple removed it on the 8. OLED is here to stay for the next half decade at the very least. The entire lineup will go OLED next year when the supply isssues are sorted.

While you are beta testing MicroLED(considering not a single phone has it and it reportedly has brightness issues) I will be enjoying my trusty OLED screen for years
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what I think is best.
Thats all fine and dandy. However the FACT is that OLED screens are better. Its not an opinion but a fact.
 

I7guy

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The 7S is no longer the high end iPhone. Thats the 8. Apple doesnt switch technologies that rapidly. Even TouchID remained on the iPhone for 4 years before Apple removed it on the 8. OLED is here to stay for the next half decade at the very least. The entire lineup will go OLED next year when the supply isssues are sorted.

While you are beta testing MicroLED(considering not a single phone has it and it reportedly has brightness issues) I will be enjoying my trusty OLED screen for years
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Thats all fine and dandy. However the FACT is that OLED screens are better. Its not an opinion but a fact.
So I won't get a "high end" phone I suspect neither will you as far as the predicted shortages.

As I said, I buy what's best for me. It's a fact I won't buy an oled screen for a few more years until micro-led because for me LCD is better at this juncture.(including my tvs)
 

torana355

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Just to clarify, I buy my tech with my own dollars and get to judge what I think is best.

I totally respect that, but when the iPhone is using OLED and it is universally loved it will be interesting if for once you actually have a bad thing to say about a Apple product as it is not using your preferred technology. My bet is deep down you will love it, however it will be hard for you to admit after this thread.
 

I7guy

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I totally respect that, but when the iPhone is using OLED and it is universally loved it will be interesting if for once you actually have a bad thing to say about a Apple product as it is not using your preferred technology. My bet is deep down you will love it, however it will be hard for you to admit after this thread.
I don't plan on buying the iPhone "x" at this point. Will wait for the "s" model after a year to see how things shake out after a year. My 6s will run iOS 11; there would have to be the equivalent of the groundbreaking Touch ID on 5s to change my mind. The 7s+ sounds appealing though.
 

Radon87000

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So I won't get a "high end" phone I suspect neither will you as far as the predicted shortages.
The price will ensure there isn’t a phone shortage in the first place. It costs 1K base price.

As I said, I buy what's best for me. It's a fact I won't buy an oled screen for a few more years until micro-led because for me LCD is better at this juncture.(including my tvs)

You ask a budget buyer and he will say the One Plus 5 is the best phone considering its the fastest phone on the planet. However that doesn’t make it a fact.

You will b waiting half a decade because Apple is going to stick to OLED until MicroLED becomes mainstream on Android.
 

Radon87000

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I don't plan on buying the iPhone "x" at this point. Will wait for the "s" model after a year to see how things shake out after a year. My 6s will run iOS 11; there would have to be the equivalent of the groundbreaking Touch ID on 5s to change my mind. The 7s+ sounds appealing though.

This is your last chance to get LCD. Next year the S models or the iPhone 9 all come with OLED.

Yes he 3D Face scanner,wireless charging,no bezels and OLED are the gamechangers equivalent to TouchID.

The 7S is just another spec bumped 7 with wireless charging. If you are paying 800 bucks for that May as well pay more and get the real deal.
 

I7guy

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The price will ensure there isn’t a phone shortage in the first place. It costs 1K base price.



You ask a budget buyer and he will say the One Plus 5 is the best phone considering its the fastest phone on the planet. However that doesn’t make it a fact.

You will b waiting half a decade because Apple is going to stick to OLED until MicroLED becomes mainstream on Android.
Micro oled will be first on iPhone, guaranteed.
 
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