Samsung Galaxy S9

[jamezr]

Maybe the S9 will have the FPS under the display after-all?

https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/11/28/galaxy-s9-fingerprint-scanner-patent/

 

[DeepIn2U]

Might seem to early to open this thread but I have been hearing things about the S9 so thought what the heck

Hope the FPS is under the display....

Samsung may launch the Galaxy S9 as early as January

https://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-may-launch-galaxy-s9-early-january?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)

All they gotta do is kill the top and bottom bezels and I'll be back on the Samsung train.

Something like this, early rumors.

Mobile World Congress - MWC January 2018 is announcement or teasing date for most Android manufacturers and anyone else other than Apple. I see a teaser ... Samsung has already proven FAR TOO BIG for MWC and they'll have their own announcement for SGS9.

Look to see the A series or ACE models for MWC.

The S7 was a perfect refinement of the radically redesigned S6.

Therefore, I'd expect the S9 to attempt to perfect the S8.

The bezels are perfect, the form factor is amazing:

- Better chip
- dual camera
- 6GB RAM
- keep headphone jack
- fix the Fingerprint Sensor

That's it!

I found it VERY ODD that Samsung is THE ONLY manufacturer not to make a flagship phone (non-plus sized) without dual cameras in 2017!! :O Not sure what was going on there, maybe like myself for iPhone 7 they've found in research many users of their SGS lineup was not into dual camera's or found no benefit.

They'll NOT be the first to ship a phone with fingerprint sensor in the screen, as I think another manufacturer did that already or announced it. Unless that was a screen manufacturer: Vivo ....
https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/28/vivo-qualcomm-under-display-fingerprint-reader/

Well Xiami had a model that featured an older generation according to the above link - I don't know first hand though.

Even though it was Xiaomi who got to use Qualcomm's previous-gen "Sense ID" solution on its Mi 5s, this time the chip maker is letting Vivo get first dibs. Over at Vivo's booth, I got to play with a prototype -- based on the existing Xplay6 -- fitted with Qualcomm's under-display fingerprint scanner

I think with Samsung's DEX and KNOX update coming along with Exynos cpu ... we'll see a HUGE push into enterprise market, possibly even trying with Google to replace the need for MS Office in the Enterprise mobile space. Yes it's been tried for over a decade but Samsung maybe onto something here. Dex concept is the 4th iteration of this from a manufacturer's OS: Motorola tried twice first, then BlackBerry BB10 (a horrible joke to be very honest), and now DEX.

 

[DeepIn2U]

I agree with you logic. I mean they might take the headphone jack away and the put the FPS under the display. That would kind negate the effect of removing the headphone jack to its customers.
One thing you can say about Samsung....they do listen to their customers feedback.

LMAO ... FPS has nothing to do with music or wired headphone use. Do you really think it'll stop Android or Samsung fans/users from complaining and hailing down fire and brimstone like they did for Apple on the iPhone 7 debut? I think yes they'll stop from complaining ONLY and SIMPLY because Samsung has decided to do this (3.5mm analog jack removal) and their the elephant in the mobile smartphone space. If they do this then sianara or put up with it. That's that.

another leak...
S9+ with 4GB of ram.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Sam...-only-4GB-RAM-but-it-doesnt-seem-real_id99791

Might be a fake or a prototype....

https://www.sammobile.com/2017/11/14/galaxy-s9-plus-geekbench/

Heavily underpowered with multi-core score.

Beyond the stats I think Samsung will make a HUGE play with the Exynos CPU ... maybe having it ship default across the globe. Now THAT would be something.

I SINCERELY hope this happens because it'll send shockwaves across the market:
Samsung can be a premier mobile cpu & chipset manufacturer, custom silicon (like they are for RAM and other chips)
Qualcomm stock will take a huge dip - especially in valuation and get Broadcom's buyout to occur - no more poison pill from majority stake shareholders that just cannot see a great deal happen.
Gives Apple's internal ASIC design team a real run for their worth - less complaining about Campus II office space/design and really heat up the competition. Their great to be very honest but man if their shown up head ot head ... we're in for a great treat: notebooks and laptops using ARM based CPU's (RISC based once again).

Sigh. Edges, not a surprise but it strikes me every time I see them. I think Note 8 did edges nicely.

 

[jamezr]

So many conflicting rumors....Forbes says no to the under the display FPS in this article
But it does seem to reinforce the rumor of an early release date!

But ETNews does finish on a positive, backing up previous claims that Samsung is on track to reveal the Galaxy S9 earlier than normal with mass production set to start in January.

 

[JaySoul]

Normally I'd say this early release thing is nonsense, but actually if all they are going to do is tinker (6GB RAM, Dual Camera, shift FPS) then they may as well do it earlier to compete with iPhone.

 

[Radon87000]

Considering that Samsung has an Oreo beta out for the S8 series, I'd be quite surprised if their next flagship still shipped with the old OS. I don't buy that rumor.

They can do it if they want to avoid supporting Project Treble.

 

[Roadstar]

They can do it if they want to avoid supporting Project Treble.

Good point, as not shipping with Oreo allows them to get away with it. However, I'll be quite disappointed (consider this as my entry for the understatement of the year competition) if they ship with Nougat just to avoid doing the right thing with Project Treble.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

If the rumors about the Variable Aperture Lens on the W2018 supposedly coming to the S9 is true, then I'm sold.







Now this would be sweet. I wouldn't be surprised, as Samsung is probably trying to one up Apple from every angle.

http://bgr.com/2017/12/05/galaxy-s9-release-date-512gb-storage/

"This seems to suggest Samsung is keen on equipping plenty of products with lots and lots of storage. Let’s just hope the Galaxy S9 and Galaxy Note 9 are included on that list."

On a related note, Samsung intends to steadily increase an aggressive production volume for its 64-layer 512Gb V-NAND chips, in addition to expanding its 256Gb V-NAND production. This should meet the increase in demand for advanced embedded mobile storage, as well as for premium SSDs and removable memory cards with high density and performance.

 

[Breaking Good]

Now this would be sweet. I wouldn't be surprised, as Samsung is probably trying to one up Apple from every angle.

http://bgr.com/2017/12/05/galaxy-s9-release-date-512gb-storage/

"This seems to suggest Samsung is keen on equipping plenty of products with lots and lots of storage. Let’s just hope the Galaxy S9 and Galaxy Note 9 are included on that list."

Just offering an opinion here, but it seems to me that Samsung is content to offer one-fourth of whatever Apple is offering in storage. They were fine offering 16GB on the S4 when Apple was offering 64GB. They finally offered 32GB on the S5 when Apple started offering 128GB. Now I’m n the S8 they offer 64GB when Apple pushed up to 256GB.

I will never 7nderstand Samsung’s approach to storage. I would have thought they would have at least stayed on par with Apple just to negate the premium Apple charges of storage and to offset the bloatware Samsung and its carrier partners insist on loading on their phones.

 

[Puddled]

Just offering an opinion here, but it seems to me that Samsung is content to offer one-fourth of whatever Apple is offering in storage. They were fine offering 16GB on the S4 when Apple was offering 64GB. They finally offered 32GB on the S5 when Apple started offering 128GB. Now I’m n the S8 they offer 64GB when Apple pushed up to 256GB.

I will never 7nderstand Samsung’s approach to storage. I would have thought they would have at least stayed on par with Apple just to negate the premium Apple charges of storage and to offset the bloatware Samsung and its carrier partners insist on loading on their phones.

Eh?

My S6 came with 32 GB when iphones were shipping with 16.

Samsung uses SD card storage. It is a null argument.

 

[jamezr]

Just offering an opinion here, but it seems to me that Samsung is content to offer one-fourth of whatever Apple is offering in storage. They were fine offering 16GB on the S4 when Apple was offering 64GB. They finally offered 32GB on the S5 when Apple started offering 128GB. Now I’m n the S8 they offer 64GB when Apple pushed up to 256GB.

I will never 7nderstand Samsung’s approach to storage. I would have thought they would have at least stayed on par with Apple just to negate the premium Apple charges of storage and to offset the bloatware Samsung and its carrier partners insist on loading on their phones.

I'm not sure about some of what you said....maybe as the max storage options. But Apple has routinely had 16GB as the starting point while Samsung and others had 32 as the starting point for storage. Then the Samsung phones you mentioned had an SD card so you could off load things that took up a lot of space like pictures and videos and music.

Look at the storage options right now for the iPhone and Samsung Note 8. The iPhone starts at 64 then jumps to 256. I think 128 was the sweet spot for most but they removed that option so people would pay the premium for 256.
The Note 8 has 64 but with SD Card I have a 256 card in mine.

All in all it was Samsung that pushed Apple to stop using 16GB as the default starting point for phones.

 

[Zaft]

I'm not sure about some of what you said....maybe as the max storage options. But Apple has routinely had 16GB as the starting point while Samsung and others had 32 as the starting point for storage. Then the Samsung phones you mentioned had an SD card so you could off load things that took up a lot of space like pictures and videos and music.

Look at the storage options right now for the iPhone and Samsung Note 8. The iPhone starts at 64 then jumps to 256. I think 128 was the sweet spot for most but they removed that option so people would pay the premium for 256.
The Note 8 has 64 but with SD Card I have a 256 card in mine.

All in all it was Samsung that pushed Apple to stop using 16GB as the default starting point for phones.

Its pretty annoying that apple puts these 2 extremes. 64 may not be enough and 256 may be overkill for a lot of people...
It basically forces you to buy the higher priced 256 model. It should be 128 and 256.

 

[Breaking Good]

Eh?

My S6 came with 32 GB when iphones were shipping with 16.

Samsung uses SD card storage. It is a null argument.

I'm not sure about some of what you said....maybe as the max storage options. But Apple has routinely had 16GB as the starting point while Samsung and others had 32 as the starting point for storage. Then the Samsung phones you mentioned had an SD card so you could off load things that took up a lot of space like pictures and videos and music.

Look at the storage options right now for the iPhone and Samsung Note 8. The iPhone starts at 64 then jumps to 256. I think 128 was the sweet spot for most but they removed that option so people would pay the premium for 256.
The Note 8 has 64 but with SD Card I have a 256 card in mine.

All in all it was Samsung that pushed Apple to stop using 16GB as the default starting point for phones.

Yes, I am referring to max storage options. But the key here is that Apple has options.

Yes, Samsung has often had a slot for an SD card. But Samsung (or Google) has restricted what you can store on an SD card. And I might be wrong about this, but I do not believe that the S6 had an SD card slot.

In the area of storage, Apple has the advantage. What surprises me here is that this seems to be an advantage that Samsung could easily negate.

Apple gets a pretty hefty premium on it higher storage tiers and Samsung seems perfectly fine to let them do it. If Samsung made 128GB standard they could force Apple to come down in price which would force Apple to compromise in other parts.

Samsung is essentially putting money in Apple's hands by not doing this.

 

[KingslayerG5]

Snapdragon 845 specs doesn't wow me. I probably won't get blown away from Qualcomm until they finally announce the Snapdragon 900 series within five years.

 

[Michael Goff]

Snapdragon 845 specs doesn't wow me. I probably won't get blown away from Qualcomm until they finally announce the Snapdragon 900 series within five years.

Snapdragon isn’t wowing anyone. But they have a huge advantage in the fact that Qualcomm has so many networking patents to use to push their own chips.

 

[ozreth]

I almost switched to the S8 from iPhone a few months ago but knew the s9 was around the corner. Looks like it’s gonna be nice, although one bezel at the top and not bottom is a little odd, even if it is a thin one. Would rather have both as it is now or none.

 

[Sevanw]

I think it's pretty much safe to say the the S9 will have an under screen fp sensor.

https://m.androidcentral.com/synapt...ngerprint-sensors-coming-smartphones#comments

"The new Synaptics Clear ID optical fingerprint sensors deliver one-touch high-resolution scanning through full cover glass and enable sleek, button-free, bezel-free infinity displays."

Only one company that calls their display an infinity display.

 

[jamezr]

I think it's pretty much safe to say the the S9 will have an under screen fp sensor.

https://m.androidcentral.com/synapt...ngerprint-sensors-coming-smartphones#comments

"The new Synaptics Clear ID optical fingerprint sensors deliver one-touch high-resolution scanning through full cover glass and enable sleek, button-free, bezel-free infinity displays."

Only one company that calls their display an infinity display.

I sure hope that comes to the S9 and 9+!

 

[5105973]

I think it's pretty much safe to say the the S9 will have an under screen fp sensor.

https://m.androidcentral.com/synapt...ngerprint-sensors-coming-smartphones#comments

"The new Synaptics Clear ID optical fingerprint sensors deliver one-touch high-resolution scanning through full cover glass and enable sleek, button-free, bezel-free infinity displays."

Only one company that calls their display an infinity display.

Apple should not have given up on this technology. Or at the very least should not have stuck themselves in a position where they would have to walk themselves back if they could get it working and integrated in future iPhones.

S9 looks like it could be a beast. I would rather have a Pixel camera experience though than any new fingerprint tech so I’m hoping Samsung also ups their game on the cameras, too.

 

[jamezr]

I want the blue S9 Plus....

https://www.neowin.net/news/leaked-...der-shows-a-vertically-arranged-camera-sensor

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I think it's pretty much safe to say the the S9 will have an under screen fp sensor.

https://m.androidcentral.com/synapt...ngerprint-sensors-coming-smartphones#comments

"The new Synaptics Clear ID optical fingerprint sensors deliver one-touch high-resolution scanning through full cover glass and enable sleek, button-free, bezel-free infinity displays."

Only one company that calls their display an infinity display.

It's pretty much a given the S9 will have 3D facial recognition. If an in-display FPS is added along with that, then that's a very good look for Samsung.

All Samsung would need is dual speakers to basically cover all angles of competition.

I will be pleasantly surprised if all three are added to the S9.

 

[Mark316]

I've pretty much given up on the S9 having the fps under the display. It kind of sucks the smaller variant isn't getting the dual camera too.

 

[5105973]

I've pretty much given up on the S9 having the fps under the display. It kind of sucks the smaller variant isn't getting the dual camera too.

It’s not? Whoa. Very Appley of them if so.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

It’s not? Whoa. Very Appley of them if so.

Probably also depends on the trend of sales. Pretty sure the S8+ sold a lot more than the S8.

So they will probably save money by skimping out on the dual camera module on the S9.

 

[Fernandez21]

Apple should not have given up on this technology. Or at the very least should not have stuck themselves in a position where they would have to walk themselves back if they could get it working and integrated in future iPhones.

S9 looks like it could be a beast. I would rather have a Pixel camera experience though than any new fingerprint tech so I’m hoping Samsung also ups their game on the cameras, too.

I don’t think they have painted themselves into a corner. If they can do Touch ID under the screen along with Face ID, they can say it’s the most secure phone ever with a 2 factor security system, needing both a fingerprint and Face ID. So even twins won’t be able to open each others phone.

Can’t wait for the Note 9, looking good as far as getting rid of those top and bottom bezels, come Samsung, embrace a notch and go completely bezel less.