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Samsung's new Note 4 commercial
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But the thing is i dont get that argument. and can offset that by the things i can do on my phone add value which cannot be added to the iphone as they cannot do the stuff.
I have a Rmbp and an apple tv, at the center is my samsung galaxy mega. I can send music videos etc from my phone to the apple tv, i can send videos and music and photos hosted on my synology nas to my apple tv via my phone, al the while im not having to use itunes. My documents sync via google drive on all devices so i have no use for icloud. I can sms to anyone without being tied into to a propriety format, and use skype if i wanted to but i dont.
Dont get me wrong i dont care what people use i just feel Android has more to offer for my use case
I agree. Android offers just as much "integration" as Apple and in some ways more. The downside is the appearance of it isn't there because they have more than one way to do it.
Cloud sites abound
can stream wireless to a TV
can use my phone as an IR Remote
can sync my iTunes to my Android seamlessly
Photos sync to all devices via cloud
I can text via my phone from a Windows machine
I can print to any wireless printer
I can video call without issue
etc...
Your argument doesn't have much substance. The iPhone can do all those things and iTunes is a plus not a negative.
1. Go back up your Android phone and restore it with ease without all the jumping through hoops ROOTING.
2. I can SMS anyone just fine with one app. iMessage. I can use Skype too.
To be honest, your discussion seems incoherent and more like rambling. I think Im gonna step out of your discussion.
Hopefully they never do, I like to make my home screen what I want itMaybe the day Samsung gets iOS on their phones I'll give a crap.
Only thing to me that great is the cloud and backing up going from one phone to another. That's great
as you will step out i guess this post will just satisfy the rambling side of me
Backup:
Yes i use root to create a zip file to backup a state of my phone, a process i have done over 500 times as im a dev on xda so need to test however let me explain a few things (to myself)
Kies Software backs up to the desktop and can restore firmware without root.
Android allows you to do a factory reset by clicking one or two buttons, then restore data (less chance of carrying the fault over this way)
Google Android automatically asks you if you wish to backup and restore upon startup wizard. Within seconds of flashing any rom i choose, my wifi settings, passwords and synced items are there for me waiting. Oh yes then my apps are there a few minutes later
My launcher is then restored at the click of a button as are my tasker profiles and xposed modules.
So again i dont see the argument, and seeing as this is a rambling to myself, i concede i win this round?
Maybe the day Samsung gets iOS on their phones I'll give a crap.
The day that happens is the day I start looking at other android OEMS.
This is the problem that I have with this section of the forum. If someone comes here and posts some blatant lies and misinformation, that person should be banned.
There's no a single Android device being sold today that is faster than an iPhone 5s on any real CPU task, or plays games at a faster pace. Most apps take advantage of faster cores, and iOS delivers better performance.
Any task where the screen is ON, and the 5s is the best device. Yes, the 1 year old 5s.
And there are very few screens that are on par with those available for the 4" iPhone. While some have the iPhone beat on some areas (black level, contrast) they lose on others (color accuracy, longevity, brightness, white levels). The iPhone doesn't use a pentile matrix either.
And meanwhile guys like that can post whatever they want and my thread gets closed for asking a legit question and make (those that want to participate on that thread) face the truth.
I haven't seen (on TV) this commercial or any of the other ones that Samsung quickly put out after the Apple keynote. Are these Youtube only or are they airing on TV?
If they are airing on TV I wonder if the muggles (non Apple Fanboi's) will really understand their true meaning.
If they are airing on TV I wonder if the muggles (non Apple Fanboi's) will really understand their true meaning.
Another Apple bashing ad from Samsung- no surprise. Samsung should get to work on their next thing- rather than picking out flaws in new technology from competitors.
At least Apple isn't that desperate.
At least Apple isn't that desperate.
I cant say if this was on tele as its Samsung USA, but i doubt it, these are designed in all fairness for the web and the obvious fanboys, the average Joe consumer wouldnt have a clue what there about. Whilst i do like this ad, the batch of 5 they released earlier this week were just pure crap
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In all fairness i think the jokes on the "blog" sites who had to do a mass u turn and eat their words
Samsung wasn't the pioneer of big screen phones necessarily.
The ad actually smacks of hypocrisy. Given that Samsung made fun of Apple for shipping out a phone a 3.5" screen.
The ad actually smacks of hypocrisy. Given that Samsung made fun of Apple for shipping out a phone a 3.5" screen.
And neither was Apple. I remember people saying "that's screen is to big" when I had the 2.8inch HTC Tytn just a year before the original iPhone.
But Apple definitely changed the game with the iPhone with more than just a larger screen size, and Samsung changed the game once more by pushing screen size limits on non phablet and phablet smartphones.
In all fairness Samsung's commercial refers to recent times, not ancient tech history.
Another way of looking at it would be to say Apple held off releasing a bigger screen knowing full well there was a demand for it. Despite this they sold record numbers of iPhones and increased profit for 3 more years. Now they have finally released not one but two bigger phones and the demand is huge. No other manufacturer causes carriers servers to crash due to demand and personally I think Apple are laughing all the way yo the bank here. They've played a master stroke despite what many of their detractors would like to think IMHO .
I don't see him posting any lies. Reviews have always been split about things like which screen looks better, it's quite subjective. Objectivity might be resolution or PPI, which Samsung does have Apple beat in so I'd say he has more objective evidence on his side and some subjective evidence. CPU power he did say specs, so on paper Samsung does have faster CPU's, it may not matter in OS smoothness, but it is what he said. Design being great is also quite subjective.
No offense, but if you are going to call someone a liar and petition for them to be banned you should have something substantial to complain about.
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I think functionality is also very important, and in many regards (and of course my opinion on how I use my phone) Android has increased functionality translating to a better quality OS. I also disagree about quality, I used to be a major complainer against Android but in the past year they have really cleaned up their OS. Is it perfect? Not at all, but by the same token neither is iOS, although some would like to have you believe it is.
Didn't you read what I said? White levels. Color accuracy. Brightness. Longevity. That PPI difference is pretty much irrelevant, especially if you use a pentile display.
Fastest on paper? There's no way in hell. They score higher on some benchmarks that aren't even truly properly written for most platforms. But things that you can actually measure (All tasks when the screen is on, browser tests, support, running the most demanding apps, etc.) The iPhone 5s has every single Android phone being sold today beaten in the vast majority of areas.
But even if he was just mentioning hardware, how is that relevant that a phone has a faster processor, if it still is slower, can't run the best apps, isn't properly supported? It isn't a rational thing to say. I'm going on a limb here and say that even in this sub.forum rationality is important.
I could care less about CPU tasks or measturbator software; in my life I work with both large multitab spreadsheets with formulas, large PDF Files and power point presentations and have tested my Note 3 side by side with a 5s as we have both available at work and it beats the iPhone 5s in all cases in terms of speed of opening and navigating around the documents. Especially on my spreadsheets.
Performance aside, the S-Pen is a great tool too. I can have customers sign off on documents right there on my phone with a pen vs finger. I can mark up drawings and photos with ease and send them back for revisions. I can highlight text, hand write post it notes, etc.
Those may be silly things to some, but to me there the whole point of having a large "phablet" and save me from having to lug around an iPad while on-site with a client. I can even print to any wireless printers with ease.
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Agree. I'd rather there was the occasional stutter or lag that doesn't really make a difference than run into difficulties with the apps I actually need to work well.
Regarding phone tasks, I cannot do everything I would like on an iPhone , android offers it.. for me it is really as simple as that.
I'm not arguing about your second and third paragraphs. If the Note 3 suits your needs better, fine. There's logical reasons for that.
The bigger screen is also better for that task you mentioned. I wasn't arguing that.
But I was pointing how wrong another poster was. He was saying that Android devices always have more advanced hardware when they don't. And with newer iPhones, Apple just pulled away big time.
But not all users are the same, and in cases like yours, the few people that use the pen, the note is the only option, despite the horrible software, poor support and lag on some basic tasks like open the dialer app.
I'll take the AMOLED display on a phone any day. One of main reason being battery life. Unlike the iPhone, The Note needs no backlight, and hence, this saves a lot of battery power. Overall it's way more energy efficient.
The reality is too that these are PHONES not PC Based photoshop tools. I'm a photographer too and say this. With OLED pixels, you see colors in a much more vibrant manner, along with a better contrast and higher accuracy in overall lighting conditions which do vary in our day.
The Note 3 uses Full HD Super AMOLED which offers one of the most complete color gamut of any mobile display of up to 97% of the Adobe RGB color space, hence making it a wide-gamut display. I can't speak to the new iPhones, but if anyone here is into photography and calibrating monitors, they will attest to no human being able to see the remaining 3% variance. Been there done that with my own IPS Displays in my studio.
All in all, I'll take a great looking higher resolution display on a phone because it runs more efficiently thus giving me the ability to go 1-1.5 full days of Note 3 use without charging.
You aren't proving that the iphones display is better, in some aspects it may be better where in other aspects the Samsungs are better. What's funny is we don't have in depth reviews or benchmarking of the Note 4 yet. First impression reviews say it's much brighter and has much better white levels than the Note 3, which was very nice IMO. We really don't have that answer yet.
As for processor and such I've seen benchmarks go either way, of course depending on the device and hardware. It's not cut and dry as you would like to make it seem. Which apps are not properly supported on Android due to hardware? Which apps cannot be run on Android due to hardware?
Rationality is important, but you don't sound much different than the guy you were complaining about.
Are you seriously telling me, that someone that works on that area prefers a display that doesn't even displays the right colors and is notoriously known for being extremely over saturated?
Only with the s5 is samsung closer to get an acceptable balance. And you might "prefer" AMOLED displays, but you can say that overall they are better, because if you value brightness they aren't. If you value accuracy they aren't. if you value longevity they aren't. If you value white levels they aren't.
Apple may have what you deem more advanced hardware, 64 bit processing, etc. but as I'm noting, if it's not making a difference in my world, why would I care? I'll gladly stack my pushrod driven LS7 up against an import any day of the week.
You're right, not all users are the same, thus why Samsung has both an S-Series and a Note Series. The "lag" on basic tasks isn't related to the processors either, it's a simple matter of deciding if you like animations or not. Simply enter developer mode and turn all 3 settings for them OFF and watch the "lag" you hear about go to ZERO. Ask me how I know. I would also suggest ditching touch whiz and instead use a browser like Nova Launcher. Way, way smoother and more customizable. Lastly, ditch the stock dialer app too.
Those last three points.....main reasons why Android > iOS. You can customize the functionality so easily. Very much like hitting the performance switch on my Audi. Makes a huge difference.
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