iPhone X So is a giant 6.5” IPhone X what people want ?

[craigio85]

You obviously can't read. Yes it does. 5.4 million were iPhone 8, and 6.3 million were 8 plus. There is your total out of the 46 million.

But while Apple shipped 5.4 million units of the iPhone 8, it shipped 6.3 million of the larger iPhone 8 Plus. This makes the iPhone 8 Plus the first iPhone Plus model to outship its smaller sibling in a single quarter."

You are spectacularly missing the point. You claimed the Plus outsells the standard sized models. You’ve actually quoted an article that says 46 million iPhones were sold, but you’re only able to account for 6.3 million plus sized models.

There are three Plus variants on sale alongside three 4.7” models as well as the X and the SE. You need to know the overall number of Plus models sold to prove your point.

You’re also quoting sales from the quarter containing the launch. I suspect the figures would be very different if you look at sales of the 8 series to date.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You are spectacularly missing the point. You claimed the Plus outsells the standard sized models. You’ve actually quoted an article that says 46 million iPhones were sold, but you’re only able to account for 6.3 million plus sized models.

There are three Plus variants on sale alongside three 4.7” models as well as the X and the SE. You need to know the overall number of Plus models sold to prove your point.

You’re also quoting sales from the quarter containing the launch. I suspect the figures would be very different if you look at sales of the 8 series to date.

You raise a good point here as during that quarter there will be a lot of iPhone 6S, 6S Plus, 7, 7 Plus and SE within that 46 million. I know it was reported in my country that the iPhone 7 was outselling the 8 in the 2 months after launch as people were taking advantage of the lower prices due to there being little difference between the devices.

 

[rillrill]

Man, I wish Apple would go back to using lighter materials - at least aluminum instead of steel. But I’ll be getting this iPhone because it’s approaching my dream size - the size of a small paperback book. That’s all I want to carry around. Then it’s goodbye iPad. The weight more than the size of the X Plus worries me though...just waiting on September.

 

[Grimham]

You are spectacularly missing the point. You claimed the Plus outsells the standard sized models. You’ve actually quoted an article that says 46 million iPhones were sold, but you’re only able to account for 6.3 million plus sized models.

There are three Plus variants on sale alongside three 4.7” models as well as the X and the SE. You need to know the overall number of Plus models sold to prove your point.

You’re also quoting sales from the quarter containing the launch. I suspect the figures would be very different if you look at sales of the 8 series to date.

Here you go just in a new release.

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/25/iphone-8-plus-top-selling-q2-2018/

Apple's iPhone 8 Plus Was the Top Selling iPhone in the U.S. During Q2 2018

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ing-iphone-in-the-u-s-during-q2-2018.2129470/ Discussion

 

[craigio85]

Here you go just in a new release.

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/25/iphone-8-plus-top-selling-q2-2018/

Apple's iPhone 8 Plus Was the Top Selling iPhone in the U.S. During Q2 2018

Not repeating myself any further. Your original point was unfounded. You’ve actually quoted an article which demonstrates that non-Plus models outsold Plus models.

 

[Grimham]

Not repeating myself any further. Your original point was unfounded. You’ve actually quoted an article which demonstrates that non-Plus models outsold Plus models.

Wow, you are blind if you are ignoring the article that specifically states the plus outsold the regular again.

 

[craigio85]

Wow, you are blind if you are ignoring the article that specifically states the plus outsold the regular again.

Nobody denied your assertion that the iPhone 8 Plus outsold the iPhone 8 (so far). But the Plus form-factor (the sum of the iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 7 Plus and iPhone 8 Plus sales) does not outsell the non-Plus form factor (sum of iPhone SE, iPhone 6s, iPhone 7, iPhone 8, iPhone X). The chart in your own link confirms this.

 

[44267547]

Man, I wish Apple would go back to using lighter materials - at least aluminum instead of steel. But I’ll be getting this iPhone because it’s approaching my dream size - the size of a small paperback book. That’s all I want to carry around. Then it’s goodbye iPad. The weight more than the size of the X Plus worries me though...just waiting on September.

Just my preference and take on this, I think iPhone is still incredibly a light weight device compared to where smart phones used to be regardless of the material they chose to use. I still find it amazing how slim they are and comfortable to hold considering we had plastic thick Nokia phones all those years back. I will gladly except Glass any day for material choice given the current iPhone design.

 

[Ralfi]

Just my preference and take on this, I think iPhone is still incredibly a light weight device compared to where smart phones used to be regardless of the material they chose to use. I still find it amazing how slim they are and comfortable to hold considering we had plastic thick Nokia phones all those years back. I will gladly except Glass any day for material choice given the current iPhone design.

Personally, I'm noticing the extra weight in the pocket (from 6S to X). This is mainly due to my primarily used pocket during my working week being a cargo pant pocket, so it's a loose-fitting pocket, where the phone flings around....the extra weight means it flings more as I walk.... it's not a huge deal, but I'm noticing how the 6S felt more stable in the pocket.

In tighter pockets, the weight difference is less noticeable.

 

[44267547]

Personally, I'm noticing the extra weight in the pocket (from 6S to X). This is mainly due to my primarily used pocket during my working week being a cargo pant pocket, so it's a loose-fitting pocket, where the phone flings around....the extra weight means it flings more as I walk.... it's not a huge deal, but I'm noticing how the 6S felt more stable in the pocket.

In tighter pockets, the weight difference is less noticeable.

I agree that there is certainly a weight difference between those two models you listed, and nothing annoys me more than having to carry around a large phone in my pocket, but I still think I’m rather fortunate that I don’t have to carry phones that were much larger years back where they would be bulging out of your pockets or in some cases, not even fit pockets.

 

[rillrill]

I enjoy the premium feel of glass, but I just think steel is unnecessary. If the phone is balanced, it shouldn't be a problem. The iPad Air 2 is really balanced, IMO. The larger the phone, the more they could spread the weight around, i guess.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I enjoy the premium feel of glass, but I just think steel is unnecessary. If the phone is balanced, it shouldn't be a problem. The iPad Air 2 is really balanced, IMO. The larger the phone, the more they could spread the weight around, i guess.

The SS makes a change from the aluminium we've had for years and harkens back to the design of the iphone 4 which is my personal favourite design. Maybe Apple just wanted to do something different as most other phones have glass and aluminium. Maybe they saw it as a way to justify the heavy price tag.

 

[Grimham]

Nobody denied your assertion that the iPhone 8 Plus outsold the iPhone 8 (so far). But the Plus form-factor (the sum of the iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 7 Plus and iPhone 8 Plus sales) does not outsell the non-Plus form factor (sum of iPhone SE, iPhone 6s, iPhone 7, iPhone 8, iPhone X). The chart in your own link confirms this.

IT IS NOT THE SUM of all the PLUSES.. YOU NEED TO READ THE NEWEST ARTICLE.

The 8 PLUS is the blue color. It sold the MOST out of all the other Pluses. It has the biggest size in that graph for percentage. Meaning it sold the most out of any iPhone. It is separated and not all totaled together like you wish to think. If you can't get that, this discussion is over as you are a lost cause.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Wow, you are blind if you are ignoring the article that specifically states the plus outsold the regular again.

In fairness the article suggests none Plus variant iPhones are more popular overall in the United States. The chart gives a breakdown on models that makes up the percentages.

It is only one country though and is no indication of worldwide estimates.

 

[m0sher]

6.5 will be just too big for my front pocket to carry around.

Though the screen size is nice, I’m not looking for a phablet.

Will be passing on anything larger than 6.0, which I might entertain. I just feel anything much more than my current 5.8 might be too much for daily practical use.

 

[craigio85]

IT IS NOT THE SUM of all the PLUSES.. YOU NEED TO READ THE NEWEST ARTICLE.

The 8 PLUS is the blue color. It sold the MOST out of all the other Pluses. It has the biggest size in that graph for percentage. Meaning it sold the most out of any iPhone. It is separated and not all totaled together like you wish to think. If you can't get that, this discussion is over as you are a lost cause.

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You’re utterly incapable of grasping my point.

You originally told me I was wrong in stating that standard sized iPhone variants outsell plus sized variants. In an attempt to prove this, you’re repeatedly picking out one fact - that in the USA, The 8 Plus sold more than the 8 for two quarters.

I didn’t originally say the iPhone 8 outsells the 8 Plus. I said that plus sized variants do not form the majority of new iPhone sales. You’re attempting to demonstrate i’m wrong by repeating the same one piece of information and that piece of information is only a part of the overall picture and doesn’t prove what I said to be wrong.

And that’s before I even point out that the data you’re quoting is from CIRP which is based on surveys with a sample size as small as 500.

 

[Grimham]

You’re utterly incapable of grasping my point.

You originally told me I was wrong in stating that standard sized iPhone variants outsell plus sized variants. In an attempt to prove this, you’re repeatedly picking out one fact - that in the USA, The 8 Plus sold more than the 8 for two quarters.

I didn’t originally say the iPhone 8 outsells the 8 Plus. I said that plus sized variants do not form the majority of new iPhone sales. You’re attempting to demonstrate i’m wrong by repeating the same one piece of information and that piece of information is only a part of the overall picture and doesn’t prove what I said to be wrong.

And that’s before I even point out that the data you’re quoting is from CIRP which is based on surveys with a sample size as small as 500.

LOL, you are clueless. I'm done.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

LOL, you are clueless. I'm done.

I’ve followed this conversation and it’s very reasonable what he’s saying. Not sure why this matters so much though as the preference for size is exclusive to the individual. I think it’ll be a while before we see Plus size devices becoming the mainstream even if their popularity has grown significantly.

 

[craigio85]

LOL, you are clueless. I'm done.

Good. This particular example of the Dunning-Kruger effect is starting to wear thin.

 

[44267547]

As the Real-Deal posted, larger iPhones may have grown in popularity, but it doesn’t mean it’s the ‘norm’ either for everyone. Generally speaking, I still think smaller iPhones hold their place simply because consumers want the convenience of caring their iPhones without the burden of a large device in their pocket. Also, they may also travel with an iPad, which they may resort to using more than their iPhone in some cases.

 

[DJTaurus]

As the Real-Deal posted, larger iPhones may have grown in popularity, but it doesn’t mean it’s the ‘norm’ either for everyone. Generally speaking, I still think smaller iPhones hold their place simply because consumers want the convenience of caring their iPhones without the burden of a large device in their pocket. Also, they may also travel with an iPad, which they may resort to using more than their iPhone in some cases.

But believe it or not there are also users with no personal computer or tablet and their main computing device is just a smartphone.....so why not opt for a plus sided smartphone.

 

[Grimham]

As the Real-Deal posted, larger iPhones may have grown in popularity, but it doesn’t mean it’s the ‘norm’ either for everyone. Generally speaking, I still think smaller iPhones hold their place simply because consumers want the convenience of caring their iPhones without the burden of a large device in their pocket. Also, they may also travel with an iPad, which they may resort to using more than their iPhone in some cases.

Agreed. Just another user said the Plus never outsold the regular phones. I was just correcting him till the other user came in.

 

[Techman82]

Whoever is right or wrong about sales doesn't matter, it's not worth getting worked up over, I think to be fair the normal size has always outsold the plus but more than before people are going for the plus size, the thing is that the current X didn't sell as much as apple hoped, not just because of the price but also because of the design. This year will be telling for Apple as the new line up will be all x design and there will be no traditional iphone for Apple to depend on for poor x design sales

 

[bushman4]

The bigger question is will the Apps stretch out on the larger screen in proportion. And will I be able to see more on the screen when let’s say I’m reading something or will it be like before

 

[naturalstar]

The bigger question is will the Apps stretch out on the larger screen in proportion. And will I be able to see more on the screen when let’s say I’m reading something or will it be like before

I haven’t seen (or missed) rumors on this. So that’s definitely one of my questions-to-be-answered at the keynote hopefully along with overall device dimensions. I didn’t like the aspect ratio of the X and I recall numerous complaints from X owners about apps taking a long time to update for it. It took a number of months in some cases.