They would need to work a way of implementing universal back without a 'button'. Either using multi-gesture or 3D Touch to act as back. It would be entirely possible and wouldn't cause issues with existing hardware, which would continue to work.
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They would need to work a way of implementing universal back without a 'button'. Either using multi-gesture or 3D Touch to act as back. It would be entirely possible and wouldn't cause issues with existing hardware, which would continue to work.
Great points. iOS was built with the idea that the 3.5" screen size is the "perfect" screen size.
I definitely think the skeuomorphic designs of iOS4-6 were the best, with the Mac using it too. Those were the height of when Apple really had good fun design. Now it's just trying to be ultra-modern, or ultra-current, which is fine, but it's waaayyy boring, like others have said.
But when it comes to iPhone decline in sales, I definitely think with the implementation of 128 GB device sizes, this made TONS of people go from every 2 to every 3 or maybe even 4 years apart. I knew when I got my 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus, I bought a sick arss hand made leather case, and was like 3 years minimum! Now I am looking at iPhone 7s Plus, iPhone 9 Plus, etc every 3 years for sure alternating between non-s and s-brand, like Kevin Hart said, "it's gonna stick."
One other reason to stay with an iPhone for 3 years or more, is I just like having my iPhone taken care of I don't want to have to go thru the purchasing and new setup over and over, and new contracts, etc. It's nice to just have this all done, every 3 years is ok. I don't even do beta releases for iOS or Mac anymore, just no more time, to re-install, run thru iTunes copy over 80GBs etc. I once said the best OS is one that you can have installed on a machine, update, and it keeps working for more than 2 or 3 years, no re-installs needed, we're getting there with iOS devices too.
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But when it comes to iPhone decline in sales, I definitely think with the implementation of 128 GB device sizes, this made TONS of people go from every 2 to every 3 or maybe even 4 years apart. I knew when I got my 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus, I bought a sick arss hand made leather case, and was like 3 years minimum! Now I am looking at iPhone 7s Plus, iPhone 9 Plus, etc every 3 years for sure alternating between non-s and s-brand, like Kevin Hart said, "it's gonna stick."
One other reason to stay with an iPhone for 3 years or more, is I just like having my iPhone taken care of I don't want to have to go thru the purchasing and new setup over and over, and new contracts, etc. It's nice to just have this all done, every 3 years is ok. I don't even do beta releases for iOS or Mac anymore, just no more time, to re-install, run thru iTunes copy over 80GBs etc. I once said the best OS is one that you can have installed on a machine, update, and it keeps working for more than 2 or 3 years, no re-installs needed, we're getting there with iOS devices too.
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I think it is far more likely, that Cook is simply lying to try to create interest. The guy is more like a walking advertisement for Apple than a CEO.
I like Tim Cook, but you could be right. Apple is king of hyperbole.
I cringed when Tim Cook said of live photos, "There's never been anything like this." (Not verbatim.)
Have you guys ever heard of Halo Back?
I saw it somewhere.....can't remember where. But it is a screen protector that adds back button functionality on the lower left side of my 6s+ I love it!!
WUT????? How does this work?
What black magic is this?Have you guys ever heard of Halo Back?
I saw it somewhere.....can't remember where. But it is a screen protector that adds back button functionality on the lower left side of my 6s+ I love it!!
Have you guys ever heard of Halo Back?
I saw it somewhere.....can't remember where. But it is a screen protector that adds back button functionality on the lower left side of my 6s+ I love it!!
I bought one that does same. It has issues as it can make the menu buttons in apps and in the OS that are top left and right unresponsive. Tried it on a 6 and a 6S+ and it same issue were on both. It seemed ideal if it didn't cause some dead zones that it does.
Not sure how it works but it does! It is built into the seen protector. I ordered it about 2 months ago and forgot I ordered it. I got it last night installed it like a regular screen protector and voila! It works great! I just use my thumb to go back to the previous screen.
It essentially creates a current that simulates a button press top left and right but it's not accurate enough and can then cause some issues. It creates issues or did for us with unresponsive touch response in the area it's actually stimulating. The back to command that appears above the in app top menu often required then multiple attempts to press to activate. On paper seems like ideal but in practice isn't.
Not sure how it works but it does! It is built into the seen protector. I ordered it about 2 months ago and forgot I ordered it. I got it last night installed it like a regular screen protector and voila! It works great! I just use my thumb to go back to the previous screen.
Keep an eye on the responsiveness, as I say I found whilst initially it seemed to work, overtime it became more and more unresponsive and created dead zones in the actual area it's tricking in pressing ... In the end frustration got better of me and I replaced it with standard tempered protectors ...
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It simulates the same top left press you would normally make except now its move to the lower left. Look at the open package picture. It kinda explains it there.
So this only works if the back button is upper left, right?
Neat trick. That would unfortunately be useless when the back button is lower left, center, upper right (usually a cancel button), or anywhere else.
Or am I still not understanding it correctly?
correct...if there was a back arrow in the upper left hand corner.......now this screen protector will move it to the bottom left corner.
It doesn't go back specifically.
How it works is by redirecting the electrical current from your finger to the top part of the screen where for example in the screenshot of tapatalk you see cancel top left and reply top right.
So in this case if you pressed bottom left you would be triggering cancel and bottom right the reply button.
The problem is the electrical current it is simulating narrows and the touch margin reduced which means more often than you would like it doesn't recognise the press accurately. You end up then pressing harder or multiple times to trigger something that would have required a single press before.
Likewise in the top area where you would press those buttons yourself the screen protector creates a little deadzone.
It's a fantastic idea in principal but in practice there is a reason all the screen protector manufacturers aren't implementing it as standard.
I stuck it out for a week before I just went back to a standard glass protector.
Also for example in apps like Facebook of your looking at something like this
Then the buttons don't work because the content and the interactive part of the screen is not on same place. Pressing bottom left to trigger that X in top left simply would not work. Nor bottom right to hit the menu button top right.
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It doesn't go back specifically.
How it works is by redirecting the electrical current from your finger to the top part of the screen where for example in the screenshot of tapatalk you see cancel top left and reply top right.
So in this case if you pressed bottom left you would be triggering cancel and bottom right the reply button.
The problem is the electrical current it is simulating narrows and the touch margin reduced which means more often than you would like it doesn't recognise the press accurately. You end up then pressing harder or multiple times to trigger something that would have required a single press before.
Likewise in the top area where you would press those buttons yourself the screen protector creates a little deadzone.
It's a fantastic idea in principal but in practice there is a reason all the screen protector manufacturers aren't implementing it as standard.
I stuck it out for a week before I just went back to a standard glass protector.
Right. I get it now. Thanks for the thorough explanation.
Neat idea and a neat trick. Ultimately, doesn't sound like a good enough solution, though.
Yeah hence if Apple were to implement a universal back it would have to be with multitouch or via 3D Touch perhaps.
They could always put it in the bezels on either side of TouchID. I would to see them that....won't happen but....
I would also love to see Samsung phones have a physical mute button like my 6s+ too!
It would have to be a software solution on order to maintain backwards hardware compatibility across older devices. Of course it all depends on what they do with iOS 10.
The 2017 iPhone could be their next game changer.
Contactless wireless charging and perhaps an edge to edge display. Plus:
http://9to5mac.com/2016/05/18/home-button-in-iphone-display-screen/
Bezel-free iPhone a step closer as third Apple patent published for Touch ID sensor embedded in display
Not only will that look better, but apparently the fingerprint sensor itself would be more accurate:
The patent describes three different technologies that can be used for fingerprint sensors, and says that the third of them – ultrasonic imaging – would not only allow the reader to be embedded into the display, but would also be even more accurate than the capacitive sensor used by Touch ID today.
The 2016 iPhone sounds like it should be an easy pass. The party will really start in 2017 if all this is true. And by then, maybe iOS 11 will introduce even more freedom and customization?
Contactless wireless charging and perhaps an edge to edge display. Plus:
http://9to5mac.com/2016/05/18/home-button-in-iphone-display-screen/
Bezel-free iPhone a step closer as third Apple patent published for Touch ID sensor embedded in display
Not only will that look better, but apparently the fingerprint sensor itself would be more accurate:
The patent describes three different technologies that can be used for fingerprint sensors, and says that the third of them – ultrasonic imaging – would not only allow the reader to be embedded into the display, but would also be even more accurate than the capacitive sensor used by Touch ID today.
The 2016 iPhone sounds like it should be an easy pass. The party will really start in 2017 if all this is true. And by then, maybe iOS 11 will introduce even more freedom and customization?
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