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Wildo6882

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The 2017 iPhone could be their next game changer.

Contactless wireless charging and perhaps an edge to edge display. Plus:

http://9to5mac.com/2016/05/18/home-button-in-iphone-display-screen/

Bezel-free iPhone a step closer as third Apple patent published for Touch ID sensor embedded in display

Not only will that look better, but apparently the fingerprint sensor itself would be more accurate:

The patent describes three different technologies that can be used for fingerprint sensors, and says that the third of them – ultrasonic imaging – would not only allow the reader to be embedded into the display, but would also be even more accurate than the capacitive sensor used by Touch ID today.


The 2016 iPhone sounds like it should be an easy pass. The party will really start in 2017 if all this is true. And by then, maybe iOS 11 will introduce even more freedom and customization?

I hope this is true! Looks awesome. But I guess I'll have to decide if the 2016 is worth it. Who am I kidding? It will be. I'm a junky...
 
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Zaft

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The 2017 iPhone could be their next game changer.

Contactless wireless charging and perhaps an edge to edge display. Plus:

http://9to5mac.com/2016/05/18/home-button-in-iphone-display-screen/

Bezel-free iPhone a step closer as third Apple patent published for Touch ID sensor embedded in display

Not only will that look better, but apparently the fingerprint sensor itself would be more accurate:

The patent describes three different technologies that can be used for fingerprint sensors, and says that the third of them – ultrasonic imaging – would not only allow the reader to be embedded into the display, but would also be even more accurate than the capacitive sensor used by Touch ID today.


The 2016 iPhone sounds like it should be an easy pass. The party will really start in 2017 if all this is true. And by then, maybe iOS 11 will introduce even more freedom and customization?
Imagine if this is actually this year
 

epicrayban

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Imagine if this is actually this year

That's what I'm hoping for, too. That these modest-update rumors end up proving false. Maybe that's what Tim Cook was alluding to when he hyped the upcoming iPhones with features we didn't know we needed.

That would be really exciting.
 
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rezwits

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I think there are two problems Apple is facing:

1. They have so much cash on hand, that people believe that money can solve any problem. I am not one who believes that money can solve any problem. But in the case of Apple I scratch my head and say "Hire some employees and get some work done, and solve all kinds of problems."

2. The other issue I think they are facing, that I haven't seen anyone notice is, Apple is building that new Apple Space Campus! That thing is a MASSIVE undertaking. I think it could literally, in the course of the next 5 years, change things BIG TIME. When they get that done, and people start working hard on Mac and iOS projects again and not just what's going to happen at the new campus, things will get better.

Hopefully :D
 

tbayrgs

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First time Chromebooks outsold macs.

Doesn't look good for Microsoft and Windows either.

The Verge:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/19/11711714/chromebooks-outsold-macs-us-idc-figures

Chromebooks outsold Macs for the first time in the US

Really irrelevant in regards to Chromebooks vs. Macs. They aren't really competing for the same customers right now and the price difference is 10 fold. Chromebook sales are predominantly to schools--they're not stealing any Mac sales there.

Now Microsoft, yes, they should be more worried.
 
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jamezr

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Really irrelevant in regards to Chromebooks vs. Macs. They aren't really competing for the same customers right now and the price difference is 10 fold. Chromebook sales are predominantly to schools--they're not stealing any Mac sales there.

Now Microsoft, yes, they should be more worried.
But that are taking sales from the iPad...especially in the schools.
 

tbayrgs

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But that are taking sales from the iPad...especially in the schools.

Sure but that comparison had nothing to do with iPads. It just added Macs to the article title for click bait because pointing out the true signficance, something like 'Chromebooks outselling Windows PCs in schools' would generate hardly the same clicks.
 
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epicrayban

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Don't disagree with the comments.

I'll likely never use anything but OSX. And certainly no plans to have Chromebooks replace any of my macs. I love my rMBP, too.
 

jamezr

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Not sure you can do anything to help iPad sales. there arent many reasons to upgrade them.
The "Pro" 9.7 Model doesn't even have 4gb of ram.

Im fine with my air 2 for a while.
agreed....and same here. My air 2 works just fine and I have no need for a larger ipad so I'm set :)
 

nviz22

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Apple is fine with being stagnant. As of now, I am not going to buy the iPhone 7 based off the rumors. That extra GB of RAM and dual camera setup isn't worth the $300-$400 price tag difference between my 6S Plus 128gb and the 128gb of the 7 Plus. If anything, the iPhone 2017 seems to be the model to get.

Meanwhile, Google and Microsoft run circles around Siri. Amazon and Google have home devices like Echo and Home. Apple hasn't released touch screen MacBooks. If you like innovation, Apple isn't your #1 dog to go with.
 

epicrayban

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Most real renders of the iPhone 7 blueprints yet: http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPho...-blueprints-pop-up-show-little-change_id81302

Alleged-iPhone-7-images-based-on-technical-drawings.jpg


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Alleged-iPhone-7-images-based-on-technical-drawings.jpg


My opinion is the same as before. It's a step up from the 6/6S generation, but not by very much. Those antennae lines are still unsightly, and they frame the device in an awkward way. What kind of statement does this design invoke? I'm really not sure.

To be fair, I don't think every redesign needs to be so drastic, because how much can you redesign a slab of metal phone? I think we'll be seeing subtle design changes from our favorite OEMs now that smartphones pretty much all have a similar look.

But even so... this is very uninspiring, if true.
 

I7guy

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So you're basing your opinion on looks, which for me I really like, instead of the guts of the phone?

I care less about looks, as Apple has always produced classy phones anyway , and more about iOS 10 and how it leverages new technology.
 

Zaft

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Most real renders of the iPhone 7 blueprints yet: http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPho...-blueprints-pop-up-show-little-change_id81302

Alleged-iPhone-7-images-based-on-technical-drawings.jpg


Alleged-iPhone-7-images-based-on-technical-drawings.jpg


Alleged-iPhone-7-images-based-on-technical-drawings.jpg


My opinion is the same as before. It's a step up from the 6/6S generation, but not by very much. Those antennae lines are still unsightly, and they frame the device in an awkward way. What kind of statement does this design invoke? I'm really not sure.

To be fair, I don't think every redesign needs to be so drastic, because how much can you redesign a slab of metal phone? I think we'll be seeing subtle design changes from our favorite OEMs now that smartphones pretty much all have a similar look.

But even so... this is very uninspiring, if true.
One thing I don't get is this whole thing about Apple saving the big upgrade for the 10 year anniversary..why is that such a big deal? It basically makes the iPhone 7 an iPhone that apple had to make just to release something.
 

epicrayban

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One thing I don't get is this whole thing about Apple saving the big upgrade for the 10 year anniversary..why is that such a big deal? It basically makes the iPhone 7 an iPhone that apple had to make just to release something.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I wonder if this was the plan all along...

It could prove to be bad timing for Apple.
 

nviz22

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Most real renders of the iPhone 7 blueprints yet: http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPho...-blueprints-pop-up-show-little-change_id81302

Alleged-iPhone-7-images-based-on-technical-drawings.jpg


Alleged-iPhone-7-images-based-on-technical-drawings.jpg


Alleged-iPhone-7-images-based-on-technical-drawings.jpg


My opinion is the same as before. It's a step up from the 6/6S generation, but not by very much. Those antennae lines are still unsightly, and they frame the device in an awkward way. What kind of statement does this design invoke? I'm really not sure.

To be fair, I don't think every redesign needs to be so drastic, because how much can you redesign a slab of metal phone? I think we'll be seeing subtle design changes from our favorite OEMs now that smartphones pretty much all have a similar look.

But even so... this is very uninspiring, if true.

Yikes, looks like 2017 is the year to get back on board with Apple. I mean if they can make a strong case for 2016, then I am all for it, but that design screams "we have no ideas right now."
 

epicrayban

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Yikes, looks like 2017 is the year to get back on board with Apple. I mean if they can make a strong case for 2016, then I am all for it, but that design screams "we have no ideas right now."

Yeah. I was never too keen on the 6/6S generation designs. This is hardly different.

I wonder if those rumors of them returning to all glass form factor will be true for the 2017 iPhone... Or would they be able to figure out contactless charging with aluminum?

Dunno.
 

nviz22

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So you're basing your opinion on looks, which for me I really like, instead of the guts of the phone?

I care less about looks, as Apple has always produced classy phones anyway , and more about iOS 10 and how it leverages new technology.

Nothing wrong with using looks as a major decision making point. I did that with the Galaxy S7 Edge over the S7. The Edge screen is only useful for sports scores. The internals are predictable: dual core A10 processor, 2/3GB of RAM depending on the phone you're going to use, 12 MP camera, latest Wi-Fi and LTE tech, yada yada.

As for performance, A10 chip = highest single score score possible, gets beat on multi-core score by the 823, limited innovation and additional functionality in iOS 10 (not expecting big stuff from Apple anymore), Android continues to offer newer and cooler features, and then people say iOS is better because they're tied to the ecosystem or love Apple's customer service or giving them quick timely updates with no frills. There is a reason why it has that because it's going to bare bones again and again. Tried and true method. The year of meh is in effect. 2017 is going to be the bounce back year.
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Yeah. I was never too keen on the 6/6S generation designs. This is hardly different.

I wonder if those rumors of them returning to all glass form factor will be true for the 2017 iPhone... Or would they be able to figure out contactless charging with aluminum?

Dunno.

I want Apple to take on Samsung and Google head on with more innovations, but the bottom line + complacency says other wise.
 
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