That is a bombshell if true, but I HIGHLY doubt it.. Thats a big selling point but who knows.
If apple does then it would hurt them I think. imessage and facetime are the two biggest things about IOS that I love.
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If apple does then it would hurt them I think. imessage and facetime are the two biggest things about IOS that I love.
What's interesting is that FaceTime was meant to be available on other platforms. Apple just never came through with that. Maybe things are changing.
But otherwise, I agree. I am skeptical of the rumor, too. It's one of the main things that keeps iOS users on iOS. For Apple to give that up, I mean, that'd be great, but as a business move, I don't see it happening.
I'm crapping my pants thinking of a Macbook Air with USB C (being able to charge it with my 26,800 mAh Anker brick)
. MBP is a little out of my price range atm but I think it's cool. I also hope rumors of iMessage coming to Android (and Windows???) are true as well!
Someone made a good point on 9 to mac, he said everyone loved BBM but eventually there was no one to BBM to and it cost RIM. Im not saying apple will go like RIM but they may be planning for the future, to entice people to switch to IOS because they liked the imessage experience.
Do they really set a high standard for themselves though, or is this just a part of their carefully constructed image?
I think it's important to realise that there are two different Apples: the public image of the company, and the real company that is hidden behind the image.
The public image has been carefully constructed for years, and consists of a company which is seen to produce premium branded goods that "just work" and are of high build quality. It has Apple as an innovative company that cares about their users, their privacy and the environment.
Meanwhile, when you dig behind this image, you find a very different company one that is far more concerned with profits than user experience, makes highly environmentally unfiendly products, is more concerned with creating buildings that spending money on product development, is perfectly okay having their products made in sweatshops, is YEARS behind in product development, steals and copies rather than innovates, and produces badly put together hardware with a nice case, and bug ridden software.
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Exactly, their image it's a carefully constructed lie; it's nothing more than marketing hype.
I agree, but I think it's fair to add that Apple is becoming like the Microsoft of 5+ years ago. Microsoft has changed a lot in recent years, since their change in leadership, and now produces an OS thst is far more impressive. Their software in general is far better than it used to be, and they are also working on some genuinely innovative projects such as Hololens. In many ways, Microsoft has become what Apple claims to be.
People don't choose to interact with you because it's like like hitting your head against a brick wall. I bet I would be hard pushed to find one reply in any thread where you said anything negative about about Apple...that is why I call it it sad because as good as a company is it is never perfect and to defend it to the hilt on every point is verging on delusional.
guess we will see on monday if the rumours about imessage come true.
If it is then I could see plenty leaving for android for good. Will see.
If it is then I could see plenty leaving for android for good. Will see.
I left Apple by 2013 because I got so sick and tired of using iTunes which slowed down my Windows laptop and had to convert my videos to a format it could read. Painfully slow process. Plus, I miss the good ol' drag and drop to folders and Bluetooth transfer. I also hated having another plug to charge it as micro-usb just seems more universal to me. Proprietary of anything can be frustrating. Look at the first gen PS Vita which had both a proprietary plug to charge and memory card. Thankfully, Sony corrected the former but not the latter with the slim.
I still have hand me down iOS devices which I generally sell although I decided to keep the ancient iPad 2 because the speaker and battery life is still excellent after half a decade. I just loop videos or songs on it before I go to sleep. But copy and paste my media files is so much faster than having to sync to iTunes. At this day and age, there is only two ecosystems to choose from - Apple or Google. I choose Google. My next laptop will probably be a Chromebook.
I still have hand me down iOS devices which I generally sell although I decided to keep the ancient iPad 2 because the speaker and battery life is still excellent after half a decade. I just loop videos or songs on it before I go to sleep. But copy and paste my media files is so much faster than having to sync to iTunes. At this day and age, there is only two ecosystems to choose from - Apple or Google. I choose Google. My next laptop will probably be a Chromebook.
Apple isn't perfect and it's not as bad as made out to be here by some. That's my point. What doesn't work for some seems to work fine for millions or at least is the best of the worst. As I said before you are much better off talking about the subject matter. I don't really care one way or another just trying to give you some advice so you're not "modded."
Apple needs a reality check more than they need someone to clear up any overblown complaints about them.
That's your whole point for doing this? Dodging questions, being so obviously bias and inconsistent with your positions -- which should embarrass anybody -- all so you can make sure "Apple isn't as bad as everyone makes them out to be?"
That's devotion.
You obviously have not read my posts or else you wouldn't be posting what you are posting. In the guise of being neutral there is more than a fair share bias in some of these threads. Seems like a pot and kettle thing to me. Who says Apple needs a reality check? Does Samsung need a reality check? Who are the so called expert opinions that are on apples management team who are responsible to the customers, investors and shareholders. A bunch of tech nerds on an anonymous forum. Funny the way people think. But oh well,
Meh.
Like I've said before, any true fan of Apple would be honest about Apple's shortcomings, which there are a few too many at this point in time.
I still don't know how you cannot turn your 'Apple Criticsim' meter up even by just a little bit considering one of your own metrics for measuring Apple (sales) took its first hit. Again, your own metric. So never mind us "tech nerds" or even the tech journalists now echoing the same concerns... this is your own metric.
And you still won't be the slightest bit more open-minded to being more critical of Apple. You think in fact, they need more help clarifying that they're not as bad as people here in these same "anonymous forums" make them out to be.
That's really the end when you've proven you won't budge even by your own metric. There is no point in trying to reason with such an unreasonable position.
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I think it'll certainly have an impact if it proves true. How big? That's harder to predict.
Either way, it goes without saying, likely won't happen! I'd be blown away if Apple announced it.
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Talk about blinders, unreasonable positions and generalizations. What I bolded is as unreasonable as what you claim I am doing and all that is being proved is supposed objectivity in these forums is not neutral as there is only one point of view to be had. As you say there is no point in trying to reason, but I'm going to keep trying anyway.
I have an iPhone, my wife has a Mac/iPhone and I have an iPad as well. I can tell you that Apple needs to step it up. I am very confident that they will. Apple does its best when they are against the wall.
What about the declining sales?How about the fact that Nokia anD Motorola balance sheets were showing amazing values before the iPhone came out.Those figures are 65% iPhone.Apple is nothing without the iPhone.Now iPhone sales are not what they used to be and are provably going the iPad way.
The iPhone 7 has no antenna bands,a useless dual lens camera(because it's only on the larger model which I detest) and no headphone jack.Lol Samsung has nothing to fear from he iPhone 7.If the renders I saw regarding the Note 6 are any indication,Samsung is all set for another home run
64bit isn't innovation,What practical benefit do you get on your iPhone because of 64bit?Answer nothing.Its just a box on the spec sheet.On the other hand having the best screen on the planet',curved displays,ability to dip the phone in water,bendable displays is innovation.
Now 3D touch would be considered innovation if apps actually supported it properly..Android N destroys iOS in 3d touch.I have it on my Nexus and the implementation is miles beyond what Apple did
What declining sales? One down quarter where they only made $40B. Sounds a bit alarmist to me, but oh well, this is the internet, where everybody has an equal voice and are free to post their opinions.
Samsung may be set for a home run, but the iphone 7, will be game, set and match.
You'll have to look up 64 bit to see what benefits the architecture has. It's like saying what benefit does GDI or turbo have? Just because you can't physically see it don't mean there isn't a benefit.
So OLED is now innovation but 64 bit isn't? I guess because it's not in the s7 it's not innovative enough for you. Right?
Apple themselves warned and advised sales and profits will be down warning investors......most likely the rest of the year versus YoY from previous years.
To be honest YOU brought up 64 bit architecture as being innovative...yet you can't describe what it means or what the benefits are. You tell people to look it up? That's not having a fair conversation tbh.
What about the iphone 7 will make it so? Apple has already warned sales will be lower YoY.
You guys are being ridiculously hard on @I7guy. It is pretty well assumed people here know what 64 bit architecture means if you are into tech. Why just yesterday someone on here told me to go "look it up" instead of explaining something. Pretty hypocritical honestly.
It was a very impressive step for Apple when it was announced. And for sure has benefits.
Direct from Samsung themselves for those who are tying to argue it has no benefits (?)
https://insights.samsung.com/2016/03/17/why-does-64-bit-architecture-matter-for-enterprise-mobility/
I'd be happy to post more "techy" stuff if people want to know more details, but I think some here are just deflecting for the sake or argument.
It was a very impressive step for Apple when it was announced. And for sure has benefits.
Direct from Samsung themselves for those who are tying to argue it has no benefits (?)
https://insights.samsung.com/2016/03/17/why-does-64-bit-architecture-matter-for-enterprise-mobility/
I'd be happy to post more "techy" stuff if people want to know more details, but I think some here are just deflecting for the sake or argument.
Why should I describe 64 bit, especially to a tech forum? 64 bit has been around for a number of years and those who are techy and ask for explanations are just being pejorative for the sake of it. As far as the iphone 7, I'm surprised you of all people, should know apple has the capacity to surprise with each new iteration.
in all honesty...you bring up a supposed innovation(64 bit architecture) then can't say why or what it does?
Not to mention that it was 3 years ago that they introduced it. Which is decades ago in tech years. But that was great innovation but making a completely waterproof phone with open ports and making what is known to be the best, most energy efficient OLED display is not.
Yes! The Samsung OLED is so good Apple ordered 100 million of them! Then when an iphone debuts with those displays the Apple faithful scream Apple innovation!
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/0...s-100m-samsung-oled-displays-for-2017-iphone/
I'm looking forward to battery savings on OLED and maybe almost no battery usage for notifications (like the Moto X). Only thing I'm worried about is outdoor usage. iOS 10 with dark theme ? CANT WAIT.
<sarcasm> What you talking about? Apple invented the OLED and Samsung stole it!!! </sarcasm>
Nothing like deflecting and generalizations to further a discussion.
Nope I didn't say that...I said it's been around for a while, and you can do some internet research. Plus @Surf Donkey posted this link in this post.
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Please read and then let's discuss. Show some initiative man.
I agree with this. Why is it so important to you guys that i7Guy admits that Apple is falling out of the sky, in a sinking ship, etc, lol and if he doesn't, it invalidates all of his arguments? That said, reading all of this is sure a lot of fun. I'd buy ya'll a round of beer to keep it up.
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