I guess this is for all here. The Uhura/Kirk kiss was perhaps the first in the US. Britain beat us to the punch with anotehr show having both black and white actors kiss.
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Star Trek: Alpha to Delta Quadrants & Everything In Between
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They beat us to a lot of things, amazingly enough.. I mean, they abolished slavery 58 years before us, so I could easily see them beating us to this as well.
However, that Jadzia Dax/Lenara Khan kiss in Rejoined (DS9, season 4, episode 6) broke just as many barriers as Kirk/Uhura. I mean, I don't know if it was that Berman and Piller wanted to one-up Roddenberry, or present that same issue with an updated twist, as interracial relations were more commonplace 28 years later.
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Gonna hate me - check out L.A. Law 1991 which had a prime-time TV female/female kiss.
Brilliant; thanks for sharing.
And again, absolutely brilliant.
And remember, the original ST episode, The Cage, featured a female No 1 (played by the legendary Majel Barrett) which - as with a POC serving as an officer on the bridge - was thought to be too advanced for audiences at the time.
Thanks for the link; these are fascinating interviews.
Agreed.
Fascinating.
I already knew the story behind the naming of Desilu - that was old Hollywood history, - but had not known the extraordinary Lucille Ball backstory re Star Trek; that is absolutely fascinating.
Well, well.. apparently it was. So in this case it was Star Trek: Attorneys at Law. 😁
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For Lower Decks fans (I'm not watching), you might be interested in https://larrynemecek.com/openhouse/ with its creator/showrunner, Mike McMahan on Monday, Nov 15.
I joined one of the above almost a year ago run by Larry who had on David Carson (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/David_Carson#Directing_credits) who directed Generations + few eps of TNG and DS9, including Yesterday's Enterprise.
I joined one of the above almost a year ago run by Larry who had on David Carson (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/David_Carson#Directing_credits) who directed Generations + few eps of TNG and DS9, including Yesterday's Enterprise.
I posted about ep 3 of Center Seat that focused on Phase II and TMP at https://www.tivocommunity.com/community/index.php?threads/the-center-seat-—-55-years-of-star-trek-all-episodes.585455/page-2#post-12435221. TMP production sounded like total chaos.
I enjoyed the ep as well as the following ep that focused on Star Trek II thru IV.
I guess will subscribe to History Vault for a bit to see the rest. I have a promo from Roku to get it for 99 cents/month for 2 months. That'll come in handy.
I already subscribe to History Vault and while there are ten episodes of this thing, Vault only has five listed. The one about Phase II, for example, isn't there and I only saw it on the regualr History Channel. But the Vault has episodes that haven't aired yet on History Channel, for example DS9 and Voyager episodes. I have no idea what the hell they are doing.
AFAIK, they're only airing 4 eps and they've aired all 4 on History Channel already.
I've watched all 4 currently listed at https://play.history.com/shows/the-center-seat-55-years-of-star-trek#episodes thanks to my TiVo recording them: Lucy Loves Trek, Saturday Morning Pinks (on TAS), Trekking Through the '70s - Phase II and The Motion Picture and finally, Trek Goes to the Movies.
I can't speak to what History Vault carries at the moment.
https://trekmovie.com/2021/11/05/re...un-docuseries-that-takes-star-trek-seriously/ says
For the above show, there's some goofiness as to what's available on Roku via the History Vault inside Roku Channel. See https://www.tivocommunity.com/commu...trek-all-episodes.585455/page-2#post-12452411 and what I posted afterward.
Ep 9 seems to be the final ep and hasn't been released yet... yet ep 10 is already available. Go figure.
Ep 9 seems to be the final ep and hasn't been released yet... yet ep 10 is already available. Go figure.
I finished watching all of The Center Seat. I enjoyed it. There was quite a bit I didn't know about (e.g. Les Moonves not liking Scott Bakula and the possibility they were going to replace him and the tension between Moonves and IIRC Rick Berman). The auditioning that Nana Visitor did was also amusing.
Unrelated: I did visit http://www.skirball.org/exhibitions/star-trek-exploring-new-worlds in LA recently. If you live in So Cal (I don't, it's an over 300 mile drive for me) and love Trek, I highly recommend going. From what I've read, this is the final stop for the exhibit and it ends in Feb 2022. Tix are free on Thursdays but for any day, you need to reserve ahead of time.
Really liked the Enterprise D filming model, the TOS captain's chair and console + a bunch of uniforms worn by various actors.
Unrelated: I did visit http://www.skirball.org/exhibitions/star-trek-exploring-new-worlds in LA recently. If you live in So Cal (I don't, it's an over 300 mile drive for me) and love Trek, I highly recommend going. From what I've read, this is the final stop for the exhibit and it ends in Feb 2022. Tix are free on Thursdays but for any day, you need to reserve ahead of time.
Really liked the Enterprise D filming model, the TOS captain's chair and console + a bunch of uniforms worn by various actors.
It's been a mess for those outside the US and Canada (not me).
https://treknews.net/2021/11/24/sta...4-international-deal-paramount-plus-pluto-tv/ and https://www.tomsguide.com/news/how-...us-and-netflix-release-date-and-time-and-more might help some...
There's also a hiatus coming soon that might be related: https://trekmovie.com/2021/12/23/st...hiatus-after-next-week-returning-in-february/.
I enjoyed Enterprise, I felt it got a rough deal. The stories were generally good and I liked the cast and the combination of feeling it was futuristic but also very much had a frontier feel to it. I’ve watched all of it, along with all of TOS, TNG and DS9.
I haven't seen anything of Enterprise, as I know of. Probably have, but not all of it.
Will soon see if I remember any of it.
So I might have 4 seasons ahead of me of that one.
edit: after watching 2 eps of Enterprise, I think I pass watching this retro stuff now. Vague memory of some of the charachters.
But there's much more up to date interesting series to watch. I don't spend that much time watching series.
I really enjoy in particular Discovery these days, female Captain and all.
Some eps to catch up on, on both Discovery and Picard however. They are really good. 😁🪐💫
Will soon see if I remember any of it.
So I might have 4 seasons ahead of me of that one.
edit: after watching 2 eps of Enterprise, I think I pass watching this retro stuff now. Vague memory of some of the charachters.
But there's much more up to date interesting series to watch. I don't spend that much time watching series.
I really enjoy in particular Discovery these days, female Captain and all.
Some eps to catch up on, on both Discovery and Picard however. They are really good. 😁🪐💫
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Started a rewatch of Star Trek Prodigy last night with the first episode. I think of all the Treks, Prodigy surprised me the most and it's returning this week. I hope it keeps up the momentum from episode 4. I will say Dal was kind of annoying at first, but I do think by that planet two part episode, they did tone him down.
