stupidest questions from PC users

[FuzzMop]

Dad: Macs are SO STUPID. I don't even want to use your's. In the corporate environment they don't use Macs!
Me: Uhm, does that matter? You're not in the corporate environment....
Dad: I don't care, Windows works just fine.
*opens up VMWare fusion, windows shows up*
Me: Well, here's your Windows!
Dad: IT'S NOT THE SAME!

I even went through getting everything that was on our old Windows desktop the same in VMWare, but it's still "not the same"!

My dad's main reason for not using Macs: It doesn't have Solitaire on it!

 

[Consultant]

Dad: Macs are SO STUPID. I don't even want to use your's. In the corporate environment they don't use Macs!
Me: Uhm, does that matter? You're not in the corporate environment....
Dad: I don't care, Windows works just fine.
*opens up VMWare fusion, windows shows up*
Me: Well, here's your Windows!
Dad: IT'S NOT THE SAME!

I even went through getting everything that was on our old Windows desktop the same in VMWare, but it's still "not the same"!

My dad's main reason for not using Macs: It doesn't have Solitaire on it!

IBM Offering Macs to some workers
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/16/ibm-launches-pilot-program-for-migrating-to-macs/

Install Solitaire: http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/games/mondosolitaire.html

Yes mine sweeper is available as widget also. Press dashboard button to bring it on or off. Guess what? He could have BOTH Solitaire AND mine sweeper on the same screen!!!

 

[clevin]

IBM Offering Macs to some workers
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/16/ibm-launches-pilot-program-for-migrating-to-macs/
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IBM said they were just testing their softwares on macs, no migration from pc to mac in plan, roughlydrafted is a unreliable source that makes biased stuff.

 

[Consultant]

IBM said they were just testing their softwares on macs, no migration from pc to mac in plan, roughlydrafted is a unreliable source that makes biased stuff.

Which part of this don't you understand?

"The Mac pilot program within IBM Research, outlined in the ... article, is only a small part of IBM’s corporate efforts to diversify its computing platforms and push the adoption of Macs in particular. A number of internal sources wrote to provide additional details on IBM’s current and future plans."

if you can prove they are wrong, why don't you sue them for falsifying information? Just because you WANT them to be wrong doesn't mean they are wrong.

 

[clevin]

Which part of this don't you understand?

"The Mac pilot program within IBM Research, outlined in the ... article, is only a small part of IBM’s corporate efforts to diversify its computing platforms and push the adoption of Macs in particular. A number of internal sources wrote to provide additional details on IBM’s current and future plans."

if you can prove they are wrong, why don't you sue them for falsifying information? Just because you WANT them to be wrong doesn't mean they are wrong.

which part of IBM's own press person's statement you don't understand? just because you read a mac fanboy website who WANTs it to be true doesn't make it true.

http://www.betanews.com/article/IBM_denies_internal_plans_of_mass_migration_to_Macs/1208466159

"But it is a research project to test and harden our applications, to find out what problems other people might encounter [in running them on Macs]," he told BetaNews.

The spokesperson also told BetaNews that IBM employees are already allowed to run Mac OS at work anyway, although the operating system is not supported by IBM's internal IT help desk.

Fanboys at RD always speculate alot, unfortunately somebody would take their words for granted and ignore the fundamental facts straight from IBM.

 

[Consultant]

Appearently someone doesn't comprehend the word "Pilot study" and "[study] only a small part of IBM’s corporate efforts"


Anyway, this happened recently: windows advocate bought an iphone knockoff:
"Oh this is so great, it's got these "features" that iPhone don't have and it's half the price!"

What actually happened:
- It has no wifi
- It's made of cheap plastic, not solid metal and scratch resistant glass
- The LCD screen is physically smaller (66% size?)
- The LCD screen is of a lower dpi (lower image quality)
- "Touchscreen" does not work with hand, need to use stylus or buttons
- Stylus input not very accurate, so he uses the buttons to navigate
- No multi touch
- Difficult to navigate ("additional features" are useless if you can't get to them or if it requires the manual for operation)
- Camera (marked as 2MP), is actually much lower in resolution, not used because the images are pretty crappy.
- Comes with a whole whopping 64 mb of internal storage

And the best thing. It broke after 6 weeks. No warranty. No way to fix it. LOL!

 

[clevin]

Appearently someone doesn't comprehend the word "Pilot study" and "[study] only a small part of IBM’s corporate efforts"

apparent somebody want to use the word "pilot study" to cover his subsequent false speculation of

part of IBM’s corporate efforts to diversify its computing platforms and push the adoption of Macs in particular.

which, may I say, doesn't exist?

 

[patrick0brien]

-clevin, Consultant

Well, that was fun. Frankly, without further detail on the requirements behind the pilot, and the intended outputs, let alone the larger strategic plan the pilot fits into, you both are right.

IBM is looking at Macs
IBM is testing on Macs

What they intend to do afterwards, well, I guess the pilot will tell...

 

[sushi]

That was MS's way of convincing the government that IE was an integral part of the OS

"I don't want a mac because it doesn't have viruses"

Hard to believe this one.

wish they made a black mac... wtf's he on?

Really!

I just had an encounter with a computer instructor that didn't believe that you could run Windows (XP or Vista) natively on an Intel based Mac.

 

[clevin]

-clevin, Consultant

Well, that was fun. Frankly, without further detail on the requirements behind the pilot, and the intended outputs, let alone the larger strategic plan the pilot fits into, you both are right.

IBM is looking at Macs
IBM is testing on Macs

What they intend to do afterwards, well, I guess the pilot will tell...

i have no problem coming back here in a year and confirm positive or negative, as long as nobody would start his post by "which part of xxx don't you understand?"

 

[forafireescape]

I just LOVE when people tell me they don't want a Mac because you can't right click.

 

[patrick0brien]

...as long as nobody would start his post by "which part of xxx don't you understand?"

-clevin

Yes, that kind of statement gets the hackles up - rarely leads anywhere good.

 

[forafireescape]

Dad: Macs are SO STUPID. I don't even want to use your's. In the corporate environment they don't use Macs!
Me: Uhm, does that matter? You're not in the corporate environment....
Dad: I don't care, Windows works just fine.
*opens up VMWare fusion, windows shows up*
Me: Well, here's your Windows!
Dad: IT'S NOT THE SAME!

I even went through getting everything that was on our old Windows desktop the same in VMWare, but it's still "not the same"!

My dad's main reason for not using Macs: It doesn't have Solitaire on it!

There are some people that will never admit that Macs are better just because they don't like change. Little do they know...

 

[surferfromuk]

Dad: Macs are SO STUPID. I don't even want to use your's. In the corporate environment they don't use Macs!
Me: Uhm, does that matter? You're not in the corporate environment....
Dad: I don't care, Windows works just fine.
*opens up VMWare fusion, windows shows up*
Me: Well, here's your Windows!
Dad: IT'S NOT THE SAME!

I even went through getting everything that was on our old Windows desktop the same in VMWare, but it's still "not the same"!

My dad's main reason for not using Macs: It doesn't have Solitaire on it!

Your right - Windows under Vmware is not the same - it's BETTER because you don't have to install drivers for every bit of hardware, it just takes the network settings from OSX meaning it can be wireless without having to have wireless h/w or drivers installed into it, you can install it in a 4GB partition (XP that is) and let it grow if you need to, you can stick a copy on a DVD then bin the original cos you found that you never actually ended up running it...

Just full screen it and he really won't know the difference after ten mins.

Still you've got a mac and he wants to use windows ? What can you do!!

As I say 'You can lead a horse to water but if the stupid thing wants to drown itself - well , what can you do!!'

 

[DoFoT9]

which part of IBM's own press person's statement you don't understand? just because you read a mac fanboy website who WANTs it to be true doesn't make it true.

http://www.betanews.com/article/IBM_denies_internal_plans_of_mass_migration_to_Macs/1208466159





Fanboys at RD always speculate alot, unfortunately somebody would take their words for granted and ignore the fundamental facts straight from IBM.

lol umm need i say that you got that website from a BETAnews.com reference?? couldnt be 100% correct either (although probably is correct, im just saying its a bit wierd lol)

Hard to believe this one.


Really!

I just had an encounter with a computer instructor that didn't believe that you could run Windows (XP or Vista) natively on an Intel based Mac.

lol even grown people (in the industry) need to get out a bit more sometimes. umm he didnt know that? and he is a teacher? just a PC teacher or a mac one? meh

I just LOVE when people tell me they don't want a Mac because you can't right click.

haha tahts a pretty funny one, the classic one my friend always used to say was "macs are crap they dont play any games" - he is going to buy one at the end of the year.

Your right - Windows under Vmware is not the same - it's BETTER because you don't have to install drivers for every bit of hardware, it just takes the network settings from OSX meaning it can be wireless without having to have wireless h/w or drivers installed into it, you can install it in a 4GB partition (XP that is) and let it grow if you need to, you can stick a copy on a DVD then bin the original cos you found that you never actually ended up running it...

Just full screen it and he really won't know the difference after ten mins.

Still you've got a mac and he wants to use windows ? What can you do!!

As I say 'You can lead a horse to water but if the stupid thing wants to drown itself - well , what can you do!!'

yea id be stoked, bceause youd have the computer all to yourself!!!
you should say "ugh dad this mac is mucking up, now i know why you use windows all the time" - then he might feel a bit satisfyed.
then just go use it for the rest of the week lol and dont say anything again. ha

 

[clevin]

lol umm need i say that you got that website from a BETAnews.com reference?? couldnt be 100% correct either (although probably is correct, im just saying its a bit wierd lol)

well, everybody has their trusted websites, still, I tried to pick the sentences uttered by IBM spokesman than betanews.com's confirmation (they actually have some sort of confirmation ).

PS. needless to say, I regard betanews as quite a reliable source. For at least, it has more facts than speculations, not like some articles on engadget, gizmodo, and many many mac "insider" websites. I guess the culture of secrecy is still quite common in apple's world, such that ppl has more guesses than facts can rely on.. This is consistent with apple's style. Which I don't appreciate, but I do understand.

There are some other websites who are filled with such biased speculations that it can't provide any useful facts without readers being confused or misled, for these, I don't even bother to visit. MDN, RD are two classic examples of this kind.

Again, I know nobody can convince other ppl here at MR. But, lets just wait and see how it plays out in a year.

 

[GFLPraxis]

Then, there's always this.

That kinda says it all.

Altogether now class,,"Well, that doesn't prove anything!!"

Just sent this to a network admin who was giving me crap about owning a Mac because it was made by Apple

 

[sushi]

lol even grown people (in the industry) need to get out a bit more sometimes. umm he didnt know that? and he is a teacher? just a PC teacher or a mac one? meh

So true. Sometimes it is hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

The reference instructor is a very good one when it comes to PCs. However, she is rather ignorant about what Macs can and cannot do.

 

[DoFoT9]

well, everybody has their trusted websites, still, I tried to pick the sentences uttered by IBM spokesman than betanews.com's confirmation (they actually have some sort of confirmation ).

PS. needless to say, I regard betanews as quite a reliable source. For at least, it has more facts than speculations, not like some articles on engadget, gizmodo, and many many mac "insider" websites. I guess the culture of secrecy is still quite common in apple's world, such that ppl has more guesses than facts can rely on.. This is consistent with apple's style. Which I don't appreciate, but I do understand.

There are some other websites who are filled with such biased speculations that it can't provide any useful facts without readers being confused or misled, for these, I don't even bother to visit. MDN, RD are two classic examples of this kind.

Again, I know nobody can convince other ppl here at MR. But, lets just wait and see how it plays out in a year.

yea tru lol i would probably trust your betanews.com over say, CNet hahahahaha. that site is terrible.

yes there is a lot of speculation regarding to apples products, mainly because of how secretive they are, and its kind of a 'trend' now to speculate your specs or release dates of a product. which is fun and all, but can become quite frustrating when you really want actual facts.

So true. Sometimes it is hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

The reference instructor is a very good one when it comes to PCs. However, she is rather ignorant about what Macs can and cannot do.

oh he was a she, mybad lol.

i dont think its the fact about teaching old dogs new tricks, more about that old dogs are afraid of change/dont have enough time on their hands.

ahwe;ll if she's a n00b thts her problem. youd have something over her anyway prove her wrong!

 

[sushi]

i dont think its the fact about teaching old dogs new tricks, more about that old dogs are afraid of change/dont have enough time on their hands.!

Good point.

Some folks are scared of change and learning new things outside of their comfort region.

 

[DoFoT9]

Good point.

Some folks are scared of change and learning new things outside of their comfort region.

yea thats tru, comming from an all mac world dad bought me a PC to get used to for high school, it took me a good year to even begin to learn it.

however, im now pursuing an IT career (at UNI as we speak lol) and im very fluent on PC's. i dont know why people are so afraid of using a different computer, it still does the same things, just looks different lol.

 

[sushi]

yea thats tru, comming from an all mac world dad bought me a PC to get used to for high school, it took me a good year to even begin to learn it.

however, im now pursuing an IT career (at UNI as we speak lol) and im very fluent on PC's. i dont know why people are so afraid of using a different computer, it still does the same things, just looks different lol.

I think that it is a good idea to be proficient in more than one OS.

It broadens one's perspective, and IMHO, makes it easy to learn new features more quickly.

Although, sometimes it can get confusing back and forth between the two systems. Sometimes when I have my Mac mind on, I forget how to do something simple in Windows, and vice versa. At those times, I just stop and laugh at myself.

I started out on mainframes many years ago. It would take me a while to remember all the OS'es that I have been very proficient over the years. However, all of them contributed to my understanding of all things computers if you will.

 

[CJRhoades]

Last time I was at a best buy store, I overheard the sales rep telling the customer that the MBP uses the new DDR4 RAM.... Arn't these guys supposed to be trained or something?

 

[DoFoT9]

I think that it is a good idea to be proficient in more than one OS.

It broadens one's perspective, and IMHO, makes it easy to learn new features more quickly.

Although, sometimes it can get confusing back and forth between the two systems. Sometimes when I have my Mac mind on, I forget how to do something simple in Windows, and vice versa. At those times, I just stop and laugh at myself.

I started out on mainframes many years ago. It would take me a while to remember all the OS'es that I have been very proficient over the years. However, all of them contributed to my understanding of all things computers if you will.

wow im impressed. well im currently in my first year, aiming to major in networking and security, which im extremely interested in and stuff (just re-learnt CDMA/CD etc today which got my mind excited.

like you, ive always wanted to use multiple OS's that i major in, i wanna do OSX because of my love of it, but windoze is more common and all that. + ive already done cert2/3 in networking M$ courses and stuff but u kno.

all is in the unknown at this time.

 

[DoFoT9]

Last time I was at a best buy store, I overheard the sales rep telling the customer that the MBP uses the new DDR4 RAM.... Arn't these guys supposed to be trained or something?

DDR4?? can you even get that for laptops lol?