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iPad Pro [Suggestion]: Don't Buy The M4 iPads
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Don’t need a thread to realize is just marketing once again, zero improvements. If you don’t have an iPad Pro, go for it, if you have any iPad with M chip, take a nap.
And that’s with the non-binned M4. If you don’t want to spend two thousand bucks on an iPad, you probably get lower performance, even closer to M2.
Same. I cannot justify jumping from my M2 iPP. The weight reduction is very nice, as well as the new pencil, the new landscape camera… but I’m not particularly interested in OLED.
And to make a significant jump in performance, I should get the 1TB version.
I guess I’ll wait until WWDC, and see if Apple delivers a new macOS like interface for external displays. If that’s exclusive for the new M4 iPP, I’ll get one, of course, that way I could have one device for all my needs. But that’s not likely to happen so… I’ll probably keep rocking my M2 until the M5 or M6 iPad Pro gets released.
When I jumped from my A12X iPad Pro to this M2 iPad Pro, not only the generational leap was somewhat noticeable, but I also went from 4GB of RAM to 8GB of RAM. That was a big reason to upgrade. Now, with the same amount of memory in the base model, not so much.
Not necessarily. You can pair a Bluetooth keyboard and a Magic Trackpad/Mouse, put the iPad on an aluminum stand that will help dissipate the heat, and you got a perfectly “pro” setup without spending $300 if you already have the peripherals.
I'm not an iPad Pro user, but my wife is. I'm a MacBook Pro user. I haven't seen her use the cameras on the back, not even once. If Apple happened to remove them altogether, she wouldn't even notice. I'd bet this is the statistics Apple is getting, so wasting time and effort on improving the camera on the back seems silly. However, the camera on the front is being used for conferencing, etc.
The single most important thing about the iPad is the display. It makes up the entire device and is the one thing being utilised all the time. The mini-LED on the previous models is good, but you have lots of blooming. The move to tandem OLEDs seems like the single most significant improvement on any iPad for ages.
It's up to each individual to decide whether it's enough for anyone to replace their old ones or accept the rather immense price tags of the iPad Pros.
The Magic Keyboard looks to have been improved quite a lot as well. Metal housing and a row of function keys pretty much fix everything that was missing from the previous version. Sadly, the pricing of the thing is rather silly.
The biggest disappointment with these new models is the decision to go thinner. My wife would have preferred if the thickness stayed the same and the additional space had been used for a larger battery. This is the one thing she is jealous about regarding my MacBook Pro M1 Pro: how I can use it throughout the whole day without thinking about charging, whilst her iPad Pro M1 Cellular will hardly last for more than 6-7 hours.
The single most important thing about the iPad is the display. It makes up the entire device and is the one thing being utilised all the time. The mini-LED on the previous models is good, but you have lots of blooming. The move to tandem OLEDs seems like the single most significant improvement on any iPad for ages.
It's up to each individual to decide whether it's enough for anyone to replace their old ones or accept the rather immense price tags of the iPad Pros.
The Magic Keyboard looks to have been improved quite a lot as well. Metal housing and a row of function keys pretty much fix everything that was missing from the previous version. Sadly, the pricing of the thing is rather silly.
The biggest disappointment with these new models is the decision to go thinner. My wife would have preferred if the thickness stayed the same and the additional space had been used for a larger battery. This is the one thing she is jealous about regarding my MacBook Pro M1 Pro: how I can use it throughout the whole day without thinking about charging, whilst her iPad Pro M1 Cellular will hardly last for more than 6-7 hours.
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m4 doesn’t look sig better from a cpu/ gpu perspective but the NPU at 38tflops is miles ahead . Guess we have to see how significant that becomes over the next years
I have the M1 11' iPad pro with 16GB of RAM and this thing still fly and there's still no sign of any slowdown yet. The new bump in performance is useless with the current iPadOS state right now. I think the only person who'll benefit from upgrading is 2020 IPP and lower. Anything with the M-chip is still overkill for an iPad.
Yea, stuff now being releases is for the “more money than sense” for the majority as it’s just lining apples pockets and doing nothing that the high end user wants.
I still Have the pro 10.5 and wanted to upgrade this year to the air but this one 6 or so years old has 120 and the 2024 air still at a decade old 60 hz…how shameful is that for Apple trying to con users.
I still Have the pro 10.5 and wanted to upgrade this year to the air but this one 6 or so years old has 120 and the 2024 air still at a decade old 60 hz…how shameful is that for Apple trying to con users.
Looks like a discounted M2 iPad Pro is what you’re looking for. I’m sure there’s still stock of it to purchase one.
On a personal level, I think iPadOS doesn't take advantage of M4's performance. Perhaps iPadOS 18 will change that?
M1 and M2 are identical
Zero difference
If somebody needs to think of Apple silicon, they’re not a buyer for Apple
The new iPads offer a lot more than a faster chip
The chip is just future proofing, it’s not really what they’re selling
Wanted to reply to the other guy I think
But yes, for 99.99% use cases M1 and M2 are identical
However, iPadOS might change that if Apple brings AI to M2 but leaves M1 out
If you look closely, it's only 10.9 inches, not 11 inches. That's another reason not to get it.
Luckily for Apple, there are entire industries of creative professionals that have good reasons to buy it. But thanks for sharing.
Exactly - I have tried the whole keyboard thing and I was not even anyway it’s near Computer territory and it never will be! With taxes thing would be $1400! With keyboard- insane
Seriously??! The new 11” iPad Pro (OLED) has a smaller screen?
When I get mine (need to see it in-store first) I'll drag race it against my RTX 3080 for generative stuff and make a thread with the results.
Does anyone really walk around with a 12.9 IPP taking photos? In the UK you’re just asking to be an ex-IPP owner.
The M4 and the screen have persuaded me to trade in my M2 IPP.
The M4 and the screen have persuaded me to trade in my M2 IPP.
I'm more concerned about the fact that any new iPad is just another iPad as long as it is driven by iPadOS. The increasingly advanced hardware cannot be utilised in any meaningful way. And it has been that way for many years now.
The iPad Pros are cheaper in the UK now (not sure about other countries). When they announced the Let Loose event I took screenshots of the 11-/12.9-inch models. Rather than add them, I'll pop up a lovely table for you:
So, if you think about the base model 11-inch, you're paying £100 more but you're getting a faster chip, twice the storage and a better screen (whilst losing a couple of things like a mic and a camera lens).
| Size | 128GB | 256GB | 512GB | 1TB | 2TB | Magic Keyboard |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 11-inch M2 | 899 | 1019 | 1249 | 1699 | 2149 | 319 |
| 12.9-inch M2 | 1249 | 1369 | 1599 | 2049 | 2499 | 379 |
| 11-inch M4 | 999 (-£20) | 1199 (-£50) | 1599 (-£100) | 1999 (-£150) | 299 (-£20) | |
| 13-inch M4 | 1299 (-£70) | 1499 (-£100) | 1899 (-£150) | 2299 (-£200) | 349 (-£30) |
So, if you think about the base model 11-inch, you're paying £100 more but you're getting a faster chip, twice the storage and a better screen (whilst losing a couple of things like a mic and a camera lens).