iPad Pro [Suggestion]: Don't Buy The M4 iPads

[bousozoku]

Seriously??! The new 11” iPad Pro (OLED) has a smaller screen?

Did you ever notice how a TV that says "70 inch" also has the word "class"?

 

[unobtainium]

Seriously??! The new 11” iPad Pro (OLED) has a smaller screen?

Wasn’t it always actually 10.9”?

 

[darngooddesign]

My OLED TV is on every single day for hours and hours at the time never had any burn in and actually the guy who gets me all my electronics home theater stuff told me with OLED It’s better to have it on then have it off that’s when you get burn in.

Wait... so you get image burn-in when it's off and not displaying an image?

 

[Populus]

Wasn’t it always actually 10.9”?

I believed my 11” iPad Pro was actually 11” all this time 😢

 

[pin87a]

The 11" iPad Pro was/is essentially 11".

The 11-inch iPad Pro display has rounded corners that follow a beautiful curved design, and these corners are within a standard rectangle. When measured as a standard rectangular shape, the screen is 11 inches diagonally (actual viewable area is less).

The 11" iPad Air was/is closer to 10.9".

The 11‑inch iPad Air display has rounded corners that follow a beautiful curved design, and these corners are within a standard rectangle. When measured diagonally as a rectangle, the 11‑inch iPad Air is 10.86 inches. Actual viewable area is less.

 

[MarkC426]

My 2020 iPad is old and tired. A12Z and it's measly 6GB of memory chug under real multitasking. These refreshes aren't for people with M2 tablets - they're for the ones with M1, A12Z, A12X even.

What about my A9X with 4GB.....

 

[Marswarrior462]

Use The Comparison Chart on The Apple Website Store, the Old Specs are nearly identical, only a slightly brighter screen, marketing a whole entire M CPU Generation Bump and allegedly twice as fast OMFG!!!!

Camera Megapixels haven't changed at all

Apple wants another $100 - 200 for Nano Texture Glass

Apple didn't say that OLED would burn in versus Mini LED

Apple wants $5,000 for a Monitor and charges $1,000 for a Plastic Stand

Tim Cook: We couldn't be more excited for the greatest iPad ever
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Don't Waste $2,600 and just stick with your Old mini LED iPad

Too late. I already did and I'm keeping it, and I bought the most expensive one. This is the first iPad Pro upgrade in years that is actually good. Even if the software has yet to catch up, it finally has an OLED screen, hardware accelerated ray tracing and AI

 

[mecloud]

The OLED screen is a great upgrade. The blooming on my M2 iPad Pro is really noticeable sometimes.

I hope the thinness doesn’t compromise structural rigidity and/or the sound quality of the built in speakers.

 

[NewOldStock]

Sure is a lot of broken records around here. And the tape player is on re-wind all the time is seems.
I hate apple it cost too much then I bought one. Then it rained on my parade. wha wa wa..

 

[anthorumor]

I'm tempted, but only because my 10.5 Pro's battery is shocking. The Air is a good replacement except that it lacks pro-motion and 4-speaker array that my 2017 Pro has.

 

[Elusi]

I'm tempted, but only because my 10.5 Pro's battery is shocking. The Air is a good replacement except that it lacks pro-motion and 4-speaker array that my 2017 Pro has.

The general rule of (not) getting an ipad air is looking at old iPad Pro models instead. Forego the “better chip“ for more actual tablet features. Bet used/refurbed M1 Pros will be found for nicer prices soon.

The one hindrance here is if you place value in the new Pro Pencil which is exclusive to the new Air/Pro. Otherwise, meh.

 

[tivoboy]

I will say, the form factor is the real upgrade - other than M4 of course which MIGHT yield better efficiency, apple just isn’t reporting it yet.

But form factor.. from the M1 onward, the device had gotten pretty heavy relative to prior generations and it had gotten TOP heavy with the camera module and weight distribution. It wasn’t that comfortable, and I think that ppl are going to really like that overall the new 13” models weight LESS than the original models and probably have better overall weight distribution.

And then OLED, and landscape front camera, and speed, and larger standard capacity, etc.

 

[joshwithachance]

This is one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen on this forum...

 

[super chimp]

Use The Comparison Chart on The Apple Website Store, the Old Specs are nearly identical, only a slightly brighter screen, marketing a whole entire M CPU Generation Bump and allegedly twice as fast OMFG!!!!

Camera Megapixels haven't changed at all

Apple wants another $100 - 200 for Nano Texture Glass

Apple didn't say that OLED would burn in versus Mini LED

Apple wants $5,000 for a Monitor and charges $1,000 for a Plastic Stand

Tim Cook: We couldn't be more excited for the greatest iPad ever
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Don't Waste $2,600 and just stick with your Old mini LED iPad

Does that include my iPad Air from 2013….

 

[menist]

They need to copy Samsung Dex! Hookup the new iPad Pro to an external display and it turns into MacOS, would be great!

 

[F-Stop]

@Qithlorien ….Sorry, too late (not sorry really 🫣 )

 

[Makisupa Policeman]

I personally can’t understand choosing an iPP over a MBA or MBP at these price points but YMMV.

 

[haruhiko]

I have the 2021 M1 iPad Pro so this is really not attractive to me for upgrading my perfectly fine existing iPad. But I welcome improvements, maybe in the next generation or two it will finally be good enough for an upgrade. But until then, I’m very happy using my current iPad Pro as a daily driver.

 

[Ludatyk]

They need to copy Samsung Dex! Hookup the new iPad Pro to an external display and it turns into MacOS, would be great!

Adding macOS is pointless when Apple sells a Mac that runs macOS.

I wonder when Mac users request this... if they seriously stop to think what if they was the CEO, and there's two devices that are successful as a business separately. Both devices make a ridiculously amount of money... are they willing to disrupt that and combine the two. Limiting how much they can profit off the customer.

Because at the end of the day, the role of a CEO is to generate revenue...

I personally can’t understand choosing an iPP over a MBA or MBP at these price points but YMMV.

Easy. Currently has a better display, touch screen, Apple Pencil and cellular capabilities... at least that's my reason. In addition to that, I like the versatility it provides in terms of tablet transforming into a laptop form factor... something a MBA or MBP is incapable of doing.

 

[Makisupa Policeman]

Adding macOS is pointless when Apple sells a Mac that runs macOS.

I wonder when Mac users request this... if they seriously stop to think what if they was the CEO, and there's two devices that are successful as a business separately. Both devices make a ridiculously amount of money... are they willing to disrupt that and combine the two. Limiting how much they can profit off the customer.

Because at the end of the day, the role of a CEO is to generate revenue...


Easy. Currently has a better display, touch screen, Apple Pencil and cellular capabilities... at least that's my reason. In addition to that, I like the versatility it provides in terms of tablet transforming into a laptop form factor... something a MBA or MBP is incapable of doing.

Fair enough, like I said, YMMV. I do love the portability of my iPad but find it rather useless for doing real work. That falls to my 14" mbp which for me is light and portable enough. Perhaps the new Magic Keyboard and other capabilities will change the game as far as that goes.

 

[mattonthemoon]

Thanks man, just cancelled my order.

 

[the5rivers]

The OLED screen is a great upgrade. The blooming on my M2 iPad Pro is really noticeable sometimes.

I hope the thinness doesn’t compromise structural rigidity and/or the sound quality of the built in speakers.

Exactly why I upgraded. I knew the blooming would never be fixed on my 12.9 Pro so the OLED alone is worth the upgrade for me.

 

[menist]

Adding macOS is pointless when Apple sells a Mac that runs macOS.

I wonder when Mac users request this... if they seriously stop to think what if they was the CEO, and there's two devices that are successful as a business separately. Both devices make a ridiculously amount of money... are they willing to disrupt that and combine the two. Limiting how much they can profit off the customer.

Because at the end of the day, the role of a CEO is to generate revenue...


Easy. Currently has a better display, touch screen, Apple Pencil and cellular capabilities... at least that's my reason. In addition to that, I like the versatility it provides in terms of tablet transforming into a laptop form factor... something a MBA or MBP is incapable of doing.

They have the best in the world hybrid "Switch style" tablet and PC all in one, if they choose to 🤷‍♂️

 

[iStorm]

If you look closely, it's only 10.9 inches, not 11 inches. That's another reason not to get it.

Actually... The new iPad Pro is 11.1 inches. It's only the 11-inch iPad Airs that are smaller, at 10.9 (10.86) inches. All the old 11-inch iPad Pros were 11 inches.

Read footnote #1

iPad - Compare Models

Compare resolution, size, weight, performance, battery life, and storage of iPad Pro, iPad Air, iPad, and iPad mini models.

www.apple.com

The displays have rounded corners. When measured diagonally as a rectangle, the 13-inch iPad Pro is 13 inches, the 12.9-inch iPad Pro is 12.9 inches, the 11-inch iPad Pro (M4) is 11.1 inches, the 11-inch iPad Pro (1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation) is 11 inches, the 13-inch iPad Air is 12.9 inches, the 11-inch iPad Air, 10.9-inch iPad Air, and iPad (10th generation) are 10.86 inches, and the 8.3-inch iPad mini is 8.3 inches. Actual viewable area is less.

 

[The Clark]

999 is ridiculous for an 11 inch base model no thank you!

Correct. I love my iPad Pro 11” but it‘s a glorified iPhone running extremely gimped OS.