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You know it's kind of unfortunate for Samsung. Their sales would likely peak higher if not for the HTC One. And it's more than just public availability, the reviews are putting a lot of scrutiny on the GS4 for it's side by side comparison w/ the HTC One. So people on the fence could have been swayed.

HTC aren't able to produce enough HTC One's to match Samsung's production so the numbers will won't be close regardless of demand.
 
Which is a real shame....

Yea it is. If it is the better phone they need to get production up. Maybe though if they get enough sales they can keep getting bigger and bigger and get those productions up. I just hope they keep focusing on one phone and that is it. I think that could do them a lot of good.
 
Just outa curiousity, what bugs and irritating factors led to your decision?

Reason I ask is because I've always been an iPhone guy and prefer iOS - but the HTC One may be my favorite smartphone I've ever owned.....

The Phone was great... when it worked. I found that for one reason or another I couldn't get my apps to sync and I was having issues retrieving email and other data (tried 2 different phones too). The quirks of Sense also drove me nuts- like having to see all of your facebook friends pics when you go to your own gallery or not being able to re-size widgets.
 
Really love the appeal of this phone.. I have an upgrade open beginning tomorrow and my iPhone 4S has some annoying cracks... I can't decide between this phone or the iPhone 5.... 1st world problems?
 
Yeah, there are some things with Sense that are disgustingly bad. That's definitely one of them.

I'm sure HTC will address a lot if those things in a proper update. I'd still rather see my friends FB pic's than have the phone stutter or lag or use so much memory and storage on bloat. Those are things that dramatically affect your enjoyment and are vastly more 'disgusting' than seeing your friends FB pics in gallery.

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The Phone was great... when it worked. I found that for one reason or another I couldn't get my apps to sync and I was having issues retrieving email and other data (tried 2 different phones too). The quirks of Sense also drove me nuts- like having to see all of your facebook friends pics when you go to your own gallery or not being able to re-size widgets.

Out of curiosity which apps were not syncing? And what type of email account / other data?

I had 4 different emails on my one (two .Mac emails, a gmail, and an exchange account) all synced no bother.
 
The Phone was great... when it worked. I found that for one reason or another I couldn't get my apps to sync and I was having issues retrieving email and other data (tried 2 different phones too). The quirks of Sense also drove me nuts- like having to see all of your facebook friends pics when you go to your own gallery or not being able to re-size widgets.

The sync part is strange - I haven't had any issue with my apps or email.

I suppose I can get the whole facebook friends pics thing - though I don't find it annoying enough to call it disgusting like couch....

Anyways, sorry to hear it didnt measure up.

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Yeah, there are some things with Sense that are disgustingly bad. That's definitely one of them.

I think you REALLY overstate the "'badness" of Sense.....

It's annoying, maybe - but "disgustingly bad"? Lol, you make me laugh couch.

And as far as the overall design of Sense, I actually really love it. Blinkfeed is neat (what else would I put on that other home page - its like the flipboard widget on steroids) and the Zoe camera features are great - though I know my camera and pictures seem to be better than some (though not as good as others that have been posted).

All-in-all, showing my facebook friends' pictures in my gallery (which, by the way you can change views and see it like albums) is really an inconsequential annoyance.
 
The sync part is strange - I haven't had any issue with my apps or email.

I suppose I can get the whole facebook friends pics thing - though I don't find it annoying enough to call it disgusting like couch....

Anyways, sorry to hear it didnt measure up.

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I think you REALLY overstate the "'badness" of Sense.....

It's annoying, maybe - but "disgustingly bad"? Lol, you make me laugh couch.

And as far as the overall design of Sense, I actually really love it. Blinkfeed is neat (what else would I put on that other home page - its like the flipboard widget on steroids) and the Zoe camera features are great - though I know my camera and pictures seem to be better than some (though not as good as others that have been posted).

All-in-all, showing my facebook friends' pictures in my gallery (which, by the way you can change views and see it like albums) is really an inconsequential annoyance.

I agree about sense. It has it's annoyances, but it is by no means bad. It is smooth and blinkfeed is awsome IMO. I just need more customization than it offers; However, if other launches did not exist I would be perfectly content with sense.
 
I agree about sense. It has it's annoyances, but it is by no means bad. It is smooth and blinkfeed is awsome IMO. I just need more customization than it offers; However, if other launches did not exist I would be perfectly content with sense.

The sad part is many people here who are criticizing sense will be praising the bloated and 2008 era lookalike touchjizz soon when they and all their friends get the new galaxies.

The s-herd is getting stronger. I actually feel better owning an iPhone now lol.
 
The sad part is many people here who are criticizing sense will be praising the bloated and 2008 era lookalike touchjizz soon when they and all their friends get the new galaxies.

The s-herd is getting stronger. I actually feel better owning an iPhone now lol.

Its kind of ironic isn't it?
 
Its kind of ironic isn't it?

Haha yeah. One of my co workers paid $250 for a gs3 on two year contract when for all her needs she could easily grab a nexus 4 for $100 (she does texting/Facebook 90% of the time with minimal use of camera on a phone). Yet her reason? "It is the best phone. Better than the iPhone and everyone I know has it".

I am glad htc has an all around solid offering this year and after testing one myself, the only thing I am waiting for is google I/O in two weeks so I can decide whether to go with N4 again or the One.

Also hoping Sony or Moto gets a nexus this time.
 
The sad part is many people here who are criticizing sense will be praising the bloated and 2008 era lookalike touchjizz soon when they and all their friends get the new galaxies.

The s-herd is getting stronger. I actually feel better owning an iPhone now lol.

hey, I will say that touchwiz at least offers a lot more customization. I prefer the way sense looks out of the box compared to touchwiz, but without using another launcher touchwiz offers more options :)
 
hey, I will say that touchwiz at least offers a lot more customization. I prefer the way sense looks out of the box compared to touchwiz, but without using another launcher touchwiz offers more options :)

I always slapped nova on my Samsung devices. Allowed me even more customization.

Plus touchwiz keeps reminding me of the Samsung wave phone from pre 2010 era. It has barely changed. The fact that I get a huge and peasant shock every time I see the stock android/nova launcher look makes me hate tw even more.
 
I always slapped nova on my Samsung devices. Allowed me even more customization.

Plus touchwiz keeps reminding me of the Samsung wave phone from pre 2010 era. It has barely changed. The fact that I get a huge and peasant shock every time I see the stock android/nova launcher look makes me hate tw even more.

Same here. I always use nova and keep the stock look. The only real change I make with nova is shrinking the icon size to 85% and making the grid 5 x 4....if stock would let me do that, I would keep it totally stock
 
Same here. I always use nova and keep the stock look. The only real change I make with nova is shrinking the icon size to 85% and making the grid 5 x 4....if stock would let me do that, I would keep it totally stock

More power to you if you like it stock then. I can barely stand touchwiz. Going into settings menu alone is a color nightmare. Something I absolutely hated on my captivate and something that is still there to date.

And once a dialog comes up, those blocky "ok" buttons throw me off even more. Compare it to the stock android's subtle button styling. The touchwiz style keeps reminding me of the classic windows 95/98 look.

I like that sense has become more modern in comparison.
 
More power to you if you like it stock then. I can barely stand touchwiz. Going into settings menu alone is a color nightmare. Something I absolutely hated on my captivate and something that is still there to date.

And once a dialog comes up, those blocky "ok" buttons throw me off even more. Compare it to the stock android's subtle button styling. The touchwiz style keeps reminding me of the classic windows 95/98 look.

I like that sense has become more modern in comparison.

Oh sorry, I mean stock vanilla android :) on a nexus
 
Sense 5 doesn't get the credit it deserves.


The lock screen notifications, the beautiful weather app, the fantastic music app, blink feed, the overall aesthetic that carries over in all the HTC apps including calendar and dialler. Everything compliments each other. The way music app accesses grace note for the album art, the beautiful music widgets.

Touchwiz is all over the place. There doesn't appear to be any design aesthetic across the board, it's like a different design team did each element resulting in what can only be described as a mess. Like why does it require 2 music applications Samsung Music and Music ? Why do they have different UI's that neither are that useful. Two separate music widgets / 3 if you include google play. A widget that shows text cut off ? The notifications on the lock screen are awful, again just a total mish mash of style.

Aesthetic wise in the GUI
If the HTC One was a celebrity, it would be a supermodel.
If the S4 was a celebrity, it would be some pointless trashy essex girl from a reality show.

I find myself really missing Sense 5 tbh.
 
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Anybody know how to turn off vibration when receiving text message? I already turned off vibrate mode under sound setting but still getting vibration. I'm not in vibrate profile either. Seems like there's another hidden setting?

Edit: Never mind figured it out.
 
The sad part is many people here who are criticizing sense will be praising the bloated and 2008 era lookalike touchjizz soon when they and all their friends get the new galaxies.

The s-herd is getting stronger. I actually feel better owning an iPhone now lol.

It is kind of funny that this is being said about Samsung phone owners. This use to be only reserved for Apple fans. Well I think of think it shows us just how big Samsung and the S phones are getting. It seems that once a company becomes really popular the people that don't like them have to come up with something wrong with them. I guess it is just to justify them not buying the product. I can't say much because I use to say these kinds of things all the time about Apple. I have changed my ways a bit, but I still find some things funny about Apple fans.

I can't quite figure this out, but it seems like every iPhone owner that switches to android is choosing the One. My guess for this is because of the way the phone is built. It is made out of metal, and it feels more like the iphone? I also think something about Sense makes it an good transition. It is just kind of mind bogging because so many Apple fans bashed android for so long, but was a metal built phone the only thing it takes to get iPhone owners to try android? Just curious.
 
It is kind of funny that this is being said about Samsung phone owners. This use to be only reserved for Apple fans. Well I think of think it shows us just how big Samsung and the S phones are getting. It seems that once a company becomes really popular the people that don't like them have to come up with something wrong with them. I guess it is just to justify them not buying the product. I can't say much because I use to say these kinds of things all the time about Apple. I have changed my ways a bit, but I still find some things funny about Apple fans.

I can't quite figure this out, but it seems like every iPhone owner that switches to android is choosing the One. My guess for this is because of the way the phone is built. It is made out of metal, and it feels more like the iphone? I also think something about Sense makes it an good transition. It is just kind of mind bogging because so many Apple fans bashed android for so long, but was a metal built phone the only thing it takes to get iPhone owners to try android? Just curious.

I would say a couple of other reasons involve the screen and performance. This is the first Android phone I have used that is as fast, smooth, and stable as my iPhone. And the screen is also better than the retina screen of the iPhone 5. Add to that the design and build, and I can see how this phone appeals iPhone users.
 
It is kind of funny that this is being said about Samsung phone owners. This use to be only reserved for Apple fans. Well I think of think it shows us just how big Samsung and the S phones are getting. It seems that once a company becomes really popular the people that don't like them have to come up with something wrong with them. I guess it is just to justify them not buying the product. I can't say much because I use to say these kinds of things all the time about Apple. I have changed my ways a bit, but I still find some things funny about Apple fans.

I can't quite figure this out, but it seems like every iPhone owner that switches to android is choosing the One. My guess for this is because of the way the phone is built. It is made out of metal, and it feels more like the iphone? I also think something about Sense makes it an good transition. It is just kind of mind bogging because so many Apple fans bashed android for so long, but was a metal built phone the only thing it takes to get iPhone owners to try android? Just curious.

HTC and Apple share some of the same values as far as hardware and even software design (a few quality features that people actually use - yes even Siri).

Samsung made themselves the contrarian by putting up ads that mocked users of the iPhone (and more recently others like BB). People don't need to come up with things that are wrong with Samsung phones - because there are things "wrong" with every phone - its all based on preference.

But now you have Samsung fans putting out the "Samsung is perfect and anyone who says otherwise is stupid" vibe that many of those people criticized Apple fans of......its really quite ironic and comical.


My distaste for Samsung has nothing to do that they are the main competitor of Apple - Samsung has owned the market for years now, even in the US with their hundreds of lines of phones. I take issue with the combative marketing, the "throw it all in" mentality when it comes to software and the belligerent fan base that insults my intelligence when I make ANY sort of criticism of one of their phones.

I prefer a more sophisticated approach - both in hardware and software. HTC implemented a few features - Blinkfeed, boomsound and Zoe - all which work fantastically and are useful. Forget bloating the skin with all the nonsense Samsung puts in - just me give a couple well implemented and useful features as well as a pleasingly designed UI (I find Sense more modern and sophisticated than Touchwiz).

That's why I chose the One after using iPhones then the Nexus. And from what i've read about the GS4 (both reviews and in depth comments from posters here), I don't think I'm missing out on anything. I sincerely hope HTC can capitalize on Samsung leaving the door open a little. If HTC can sell 20 million One's, that would be a great success and more than double their sales last year. Will it outsell the GS4? Hell no....I'd expect the GS4 to do as well, if not a little better than the GS3 meaning it'll sell somewhere in the 70-100 million range (over the course of the year+). But 20 million would be a nice little start for HTC and get people interested in them again.

They have the capability to do it - maybe sell even more. They just need to put forth the marketing and focus behind it - so far i think they are off to a good start.
 
I would say a couple of other reasons involve the screen and performance. This is the first Android phone I have used that is as fast, smooth, and stable as my iPhone. And the screen is also better than the retina screen of the iPhone 5. Add to that the design and build, and I can see how this phone appeals iPhone users.

Well the past to nexus devices (Gnex, and N4) both were just as smooth. After project butter I could really see no difference. People just don't buy nexus devices because they are not marketed heavily like the Samsungs and HTCs. If you talk about those devices then yes this is the most smooth phone experience that has been offered.
 
HTC and Apple share some of the same values as far as hardware and even software design (a few quality features that people actually use - yes even Siri).

Samsung made themselves the contrarian by putting up ads that mocked users of the iPhone (and more recently others like BB). People don't need to come up with things that are wrong with Samsung phones - because there are things "wrong" with every phone - its all based on preference.

But now you have Samsung fans putting out the "Samsung is perfect and anyone who says otherwise is stupid" vibe that many of those people criticized Apple fans of......its really quite ironic and comical.


My distaste for Samsung has nothing to do that they are the main competitor of Apple - Samsung has owned the market for years now, even in the US with their hundreds of lines of phones. I take issue with the combative marketing, the "throw it all in" mentality when it comes to software and the belligerent fan base that insults my intelligence when I make ANY sort of criticism of one of their phones.

I prefer a more sophisticated approach - both in hardware and software. HTC implemented a few features - Blinkfeed, boomsound and Zoe - all which work fantastically and are useful. Forget bloating the skin with all the nonsense Samsung puts in - just me give a couple well implemented and useful features as well as a pleasingly designed UI (I find Sense more modern and sophisticated than Touchwiz).

That's why I chose the One after using iPhones then the Nexus. And from what i've read about the GS4 (both reviews and in depth comments from posters here), I don't think I'm missing out on anything. I sincerely hope HTC can capitalize on Samsung leaving the door open a little. If HTC can sell 20 million One's, that would be a great success and more than double their sales last year. Will it outsell the GS4? Hell no....I'd expect the GS4 to do as well, if not a little better than the GS3 meaning it'll sell somewhere in the 70-100 million range (over the course of the year+). But 20 million would be a nice little start for HTC and get people interested in them again.

They have the capability to do it - maybe sell even more. They just need to put forth the marketing and focus behind it - so far i think they are off to a good start.

Yea I agree it is ironic, but I think iPhone users need to look in the mirror they have been doing the same things for the past 6 years. I don't like either companies marketing strategies much at all.

I have nothing against HTC or their new One. Great phone, but if iPhone owners are going to say they have not been buying Galaxy phones because they don't like Samsung ads is kind a crazy. Now I am not saying that is what you are doing, but I do get that from some posters. I would never buy another Apple product if I went by the way the company conducts themselves. I just look past the ads and go with what phone suits me best.

I think it is great the iPhone users are trying android, but to come out and now bash Samsung for just have a gimmicky phone is just kind of stupid. The S4 is a great phone too that is built the way it is for a reason. It works for a large amount of people just like the iPhone works for a lot of people. People wanted to jump all over other posters when they bashed the iphone, but now it seems to be the cool thing to bash Samsung. I am not defending Samsung cause I could careless, but I just find it funny how people were terrible for talking bad about Apple. Now the tables are turn and it is all good.
 
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