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The No Touch Bar 13 Macbook Version

mattopotamus said:
The weight is the biggest difference. Everything feels like a tank compared to the 12"
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I can certainly agree with that. I mean, this new MacBook is 150% of the weight the 12" MB carries, and that's a testament to how light the 12" is. Like all thing though, you adjust in a short amount of time and realize how light the Pro actually is, for what it is.
 
mattopotamus said:
The weight is the biggest difference. Everything feels like a tank compared to the 12"
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that is true, 50% heavier

as someone said, you can have a 9.7 pro and 12" rMB in a sleeve/carrying case, (assuming no case for 9.7 pro on this weight here) and still come in 0.05lb's lighter than the new 13" rMBP weight
 
mattopotamus said:
The weight is the biggest difference. Everything feels like a tank compared to the 12"
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I agree, the size of the footprint makes them seem much closer in size (in the picture) than they appear in person. The rMB is much thinner and has a nice taper to it. In addition, the rMB weighs only 2 lbs and the new MBP weighs 3 lbs, which is a significant 50% more total weight for the MBP.
 
Considering i dont do much with my machine but surf the web and listen to music/youtube, i think i should rationally stay put

kicking myself a bit for not putting in an amazon preorder at $1139 and trying best buy price match, since I saw it at that price that morning and 5 minutes later was gone because i wasn't sold on potentially foregoing my 12" rMB,

the battery life increases having more battery in that thicker body i'm sure pays off a bit,

I have two iPhones, SE and 7+. SE is jailbroken crutch, but I also just really like the device

Had two pros, but sold 12.9 since two tablets felt absurd to me and I'd rather have the money

dont want to toss the 12" but also wouldnt want to be invested in 2 laptops with as much use case overlap as there is

so maybe it all worked out? and if i still am antsy, maybe wait to see what 2nd gen has to offer?

but at $1139, those people are super lucky! they can break even in a year reselling their machine after using and loving it
 
Just a little update on charging the device with the rMB charger when in use:

It maintains the current charge and will charge it at around 1% every 6-7 minutes. It would work in a pinch, but you would definitely want to invest in the correct charger.

edit: It does charge it really fast when not in use though. I walked about for maybe 15 mins and it charged fully from 85% using the rMB charger. I'm going to just keep that one for home and take the official charger to work.
 
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I just pulled the trigger on this machine with the i7, 16g, and 512g. I have, through work, a mid-2014 15" with 16gb and 512 gb SSD. It's a beast - but it's a heavy beast. I've wanted a 13" with 16gb of RAM for a while now to be able to travel with and relegate this 15" to a VM machine sitting on my network.

I opted for this one as opposed to the touchbar one because I work on a external monitor a lot with external keyboard and mouse.

I also use the esc key like mad because I use VI quite a bit in my day to day work.
 
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andeify said:
The specs are lower but they wont be noticeable, if you benchmarked both there would probably be a 5-10% difference.
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I agree and I prefer investing my money by purchasing the 16GB RAM upgrade.
Do you have any idea which generation i5 processor is installed in the non-touch bar/ID model?
PS: I'm waiting for the iFixit teardown analysis.
 
budfoot said:
I just pulled the trigger on this machine with the i7, 16g, and 512g. I have, through work, a mid-2014 15" with 16gb and 512 gb SSD. It's a beast - but it's a heavy beast. I've wanted a 13" with 16gb of RAM for a while now to be able to travel with and relegate this 15" to a VM machine sitting on my network.

I opted for this one as opposed to the touchbar one because I work on a external monitor a lot with external keyboard and mouse.

I also use the esc key like mad because I use VI quite a bit in my day to day work.
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Congrats! whats the shipping date you got?
 
budfoot said:
I just pulled the trigger on this machine with the i7, 16g, and 512g. I have, through work, a mid-2014 15" with 16gb and 512 gb SSD. It's a beast - but it's a heavy beast. I've wanted a 13" with 16gb of RAM for a while now to be able to travel with and relegate this 15" to a VM machine sitting on my network.

I opted for this one as opposed to the touchbar one because I work on a external monitor a lot with external keyboard and mouse.

I also use the esc key like mad because I use VI quite a bit in my day to day work.
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Hmmm, still tempted to want to try a 15" for quad core and more readily available models with 16gb since the base comes with it...

I have the 2015 12" rMB,

how have I gotten into these mac considerations?
 
Abaganov said:
Congrats! whats the shipping date you got?
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Outside Boston, Nov 4th-8th. So sometime next week-endish?
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thadoggfather said:
Hmmm, still tempted to want to try a 15" for quad core and more readily available models with 16gb since the base comes with it...

I have the 2015 12" rMB,

how have I gotten into these mac considerations?
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My wife has the 12" rMB - for me it's just NOT powerful enough. I need to be able to spin up a windows VM or a kali VM from time to time, and I need something that will run the software I'm responsible for selling. The 12" could do one of those, but not both at the same time (I tried).

I've read that this 13" non-touchbar is pretty much as powerful (or slightly more) the 2015 13". I'm fine with that.
 
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budfoot said:
Outside Boston, Nov 4th-8th. So sometime next week-endish?
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My wife has the 12" rMB - for me it's just NOT powerful enough. I need to be able to spin up a windows VM or a kali VM from time to time, and I need something that will run the software I'm responsible for selling. The 12" could do one of those, but not both at the same time (I tried).

I've read that this 13" non-touchbar is pretty much as powerful (or slightly more) the 2015 13". I'm fine with that.
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yeah the benchmarks from what I saw was like splitting hairs in some youtube hands on, between 2015 13" rMBP base and the 2016 13" non touch bar,

you're effectively paying for screen, improved acoustics, keyboard, re-design, and port switch up

and not $300 more, since the 2015 13" base rMBP was only 128gb and +$200 for the 256, which 8/256 is the 2016 base at least (geez apple!)
 
thadoggfather said:
yeah the benchmarks from what I saw was like splitting hairs in some youtube hands on, between 2015 13" rMBP base and the 2016 13" non touch bar,

you're effectively paying for screen, improved acoustics, keyboard, re-design, and port switch up

and not $300 more, since the 2015 13" base rMBP was only 128gb and +$200 for the 256, which 8/256 is the 2016 base at least (geez apple!)
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I always need the newest thing too. Benefits of being a DINK!
 
Could someone try to boot a linux liveUSB?



budfoot said:
I just pulled the trigger on this machine with the i7, 16g, and 512g. I have, through work, a mid-2014 15" with 16gb and 512 gb SSD. It's a beast - but it's a heavy beast. I've wanted a 13" with 16gb of RAM for a while now to be able to travel with and relegate this 15" to a VM machine sitting on my network.

I opted for this one as opposed to the touchbar one because I work on a external monitor a lot with external keyboard and mouse.

I also use the esc key like mad because I use VI quite a bit in my day to day work.
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I'm looking for the same specs.
Let us know how its run, please.
 
For Civ fans , here is a guy testing out Civ 6 on the same specs as the Macbook pro

 
Once they go 2nd gen with the new chips, this model 'should' take a nice price dip and look like a fantastic value buy if you wanna get the newest/lightest/thinnest of the MBPs.
 
OK i've done some research on difference between 6260U vs 6267U (w/touch bar):
6260U average idle power consumption - 7.1W (windows machine IdeaPad 510S-14ISK - you can expect 30% less in macOS)
6267U average idle power consumption - 8.7W (again windows machine Intel NUC 6i5SYH)

That's whopping 20% less for no touch bar version - combine it with slightly bigger battery pack (5.3Wh) you can expect 1 to 1.5hrs longer battery life - depending on load. For low load work, no touch bar version of MBPr should run longer up to two hours.

According to my quick & dirty calculations:
If w/touch bar MBPr version will get 10 hrs and 6267U is 20% less efficient than 6260U + average power load ->
11.42 hrs no touch bar version vs 10 hrs w/ touch bar version

Let's see reviews to confirm it. What do you guys think?
 
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OK i've done some research on difference between 6260U vs 6267U (w/touch bar):
6260U average idle power consumption - 7.1W (windows machine IdeaPad 510S-14ISK - you can expect 30% less in macOS)
6267U average idle power consumption - 8.7W (again windows machine Intel NUC 6i5SYH)

That's whopping 20% less for no touch bar version - combine it with slightly bigger battery pack (5.3Wh) you can expect 1 to 1.5hrs longer battery life - depending on load. For low load work, no touch bar version of MBPr should run longer up to two hours.

According to my dirty-quick calculations:
If w/touch bar MBPr version will get 10 hrs and 6267U is 20% less efficient than 6260U + average power load ->
11.42 hrs no touch bar version vs 10 hrs w/ touch bar version

Let's see reviews to confirm it.
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that'd be embarrassingly cool
 
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lobo1978 said:
OK i've done some research on difference between 6260U vs 6267U (w/touch bar):
6260U average idle power consumption - 7.1W (windows machine IdeaPad 510S-14ISK - you can expect 30% less in macOS)
6267U average idle power consumption - 8.7W (again windows machine Intel NUC 6i5SYH)

That's whopping 20% less for no touch bar version - combine it with slightly bigger battery pack (5.3Wh) you can expect 1 to 1.5hrs longer battery life - depending on load. For low load work, no touch bar version of MBPr should run longer up to two hours.

According to my dirty-quick calculations:
If w/touch bar MBPr version will get 10 hrs and 6267U is 20% less efficient than 6260U + average power load ->
11.42 hrs no touch bar version vs 10 hrs w/ touch bar version

Let's see reviews to confirm it.
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I have the no TB version, and I will probably pick up the TB version just to compare and see if I find it worth the extra cost. I don't push the machine, so it would truly come down to the TB vs battery life for me.

76% battery life and mine says 11 hours 53 mins as the projected battery left :O

That is just web browsing and using a Remote Desktop.
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