The No Touch Bar 13 Macbook Version

[Devyn89]

I went into Best Buy today to test one of these beauties out and omg I love it so much. The space gray is gorgeous, the screen is super sharp, it's as light as my MacBook Air, and I instantly loved the keyboard. I'm probably going to go back tomorrow and buy one to replace my 2012 MacBook Air.

I bought it <3 just backing up my MacBook air for transfer to my new computer. So excited!

 

[blackberrycubed]

I bought it <3 just backing up my MacBook air for transfer to my new computer. So excited!

awesome! congrats.

Were you able to get any discount ?

 

[zone23]

Cleaned off and sold my old MacBook Air. Didn't get as much as I probably could have but sold it to a friend. New MacBook Pro arrives Friday morning.

 

[Raunien]

I also get the same cut down Thunderbolt speed in System Information.

This is worrying. Their website states that the non-touch bar MBP has full speed TB3.

 

[budfoot]

When did you order? Surprised to see the BTO "non-douchebar" models arriving already, awesome!

Sunday night. Had issues with billing because, you know, Apple decides to charge the 14 dollars for shipping before they charge the whole price - which screams fraud. Figured out my cc stuff and it shipped Monday night.

 

[frankgrimes]

According to EverythingApplePro this thing gets even better, because it's the only version that doesn't have a proprietary SSD in it.

 

[powertoold]

I tried out the non-Touch Bar 13 inch in the Apple Store today. It felt incredibly solid in terms of build quality. It had some semi sharp edges that were just sharp enough to use as grips, but not sharp enough to feel any sort of pain.

It looked very small. I wouldn't even think it was a 13 inch laptop. Compared to the old 13 inch MacBook Pro, it felt a lot lighter. I think it's because of the more compact package. It literally just felt like a solid block of aluminum.

The keyboard didn't have that much travel, but it was a little bit different than the 12 inch MacBook in that there was a little bit of a pop at the end of the keypresses. I definitely wouldn't mind typing on the keyboard for a long time .I would just need to remember to type softer.

I actually don't feel super favorable about the space gray color. It had a sort of muted quality to it. It wasn't like a metallicy he space gray.

 

[Acronyc]

According to EverythingApplePro this thing gets even better, because it's the only version that doesn't have a proprietary SSD in it.

To my understanding it has a proprietary SSD but it is removable, whereas the SSDs in the other models appear to be soldered to the logic board.

 

[eye.surgeon]

I've had my 13 inch non-douchebar for a few days now. I got it to replace my 2011 Air. I would rather have bought an updated Air with a modest power and screen resolution bump. I like the new screen, but it doesn't make me look back at the Air and think that the screen sucked. I hate the lack of ports. I hate that the charger no longer displays a charge status light. I'm almost tempted to return it and buy a 2016 latest Air.

 

[thadoggfather]

I've had my 13 inch non-douchebar for a few days now. I got it to replace my 2011 Air. I would rather have bought an updated Air with a modest power and screen resolution bump. I like the new screen, but it doesn't make me look back at the Air and think that the screen sucked. I hate the lack of ports. I hate that the charger no longer displays a charge status light. I'm almost tempted to return it and buy a 2016 latest Air.

i hope douchebar expression BLOWS UP

douchbargate?

I'm just kidding though, i think touchbar looks kinda neat

 

[xmonkey]

I've had my 13 inch non-douchebar for a few days now. I got it to replace my 2011 Air. I would rather have bought an updated Air with a modest power and screen resolution bump. I like the new screen, but it doesn't make me look back at the Air and think that the screen sucked. I hate the lack of ports. I hate that the charger no longer displays a charge status light. I'm almost tempted to return it and buy a 2016 latest Air.

I got a good chuckle out of this after looking at your username

 

[torana355]

I've had my 13 inch non-douchebar for a few days now. I got it to replace my 2011 Air. I would rather have bought an updated Air with a modest power and screen resolution bump. I like the new screen, but it doesn't make me look back at the Air and think that the screen sucked. I hate the lack of ports. I hate that the charger no longer displays a charge status light. I'm almost tempted to return it and buy a 2016 latest Air.

Your username is rather ironic in context with your comment about the Air screen in comparison to the RMBP screen. I upgraded from a 2011 MBA and the difference with the screen was mind blowing. The MBA screen looks totally washed out in comparison.

 

[thadoggfather]

Your username is rather ironic in context with your comment about the Air screen in comparison to the RMBP screen. I upgraded from a 2011 MBA and the difference with the screen was mind blowing. The MBA screen looks totally washed out in comparison.

i felt the same way going to 12" rMB

 

[eye.surgeon]

Your username is rather ironic in context with your comment about the Air screen in comparison to the RMBP screen. I upgraded from a 2011 MBA and the difference with the screen was mind blowing. The MBA screen looks totally washed out in comparison.

That hasn't been my experience. The retina screen looks great while viewing photos or video, but actually doing productive work on it, viewing data, documents, spreadsheets, or even internet, I don't find the screen all that much better than my air.

 

[zhenya]

That hasn't been my experience. The retina screen looks great while viewing photos or video, but actually doing productive work on it, viewing data, documents, spreadsheets, or even internet, I don't find the screen all that much better than my air.

That's indicative of the limits of your vision then. The retina screen is most important with text - documents, internet, etc. IMO. Low resolution screens like that on the Air are washed out and obviously fuzzy.

 

[blackberrycubed]

That's indicative of the limits of your vision then. The retina screen is most important with text - documents, internet, etc. IMO. Low resolution screens like that on the Air are washed out and obviously fuzzy.

Macbook air: Fuzzy, washed out, nasty TN panels.

 

[5iMacs]

Even beyond the aesthetics, I like to be able scale down the size of text to fit more on the screen without ending up with obscure blobs for letters.

 

[snakes-]

and with a second fan all touchbar models get even louder. i preffer silence machines like the non touch

 

[haydn!]

To my understanding it has a proprietary SSD but it is removable, whereas the SSDs in the other models appear to be soldered to the logic board.

This is just an assumption right? No-one actually knows they're not user replaceable yet?

 

[vddobrev]

Hung solo, thank you thank you thank you. You just made my day.

If people are wondering why not get the touch bar model for the cup upgrade cost, my main reasons are:

1. Lower watt cpu plus bigger battery equals longer battery life
2. I want a physical escape key. Even though I could use mac settings to make my caps lock the escape key.
3. I'm too impatient to wait another month to get my hands on it.

However if you notice. By upgrading the cpu on the base model, you are around 400 points higher than the base cpu on the touch bar model.

However for me it's the impatience which gets me the most. Cause the cost difference is only like £50 and a 400 point loss on geek bench on the touch bar model with base cpu, 16gb of ram, and 512 ssd. So I definitely agree the other one is more value for money.

Ditto! Value for money is in the eye of the beholder. I much more value the battery life and the physical F keys, compared to the douchebar version. My iMac is my main machine, laptop must have excellent battery life in the first place, so that's that.
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Finally got my MacBook Pro (non-touchbar) with the i7 upgrade and 16 GB of ram.

Here is the geek bench score off of it:

Thanks!!! Can you also do http://web.basemark.com?

 

[Acronyc]

This is just an assumption right? No-one actually knows they're not user replaceable yet?

Yeah, that's true. I think this assumption is based on the slides in the keynote that show the SSD in a way that looks like it is soldered. But we won't know for sure until the machines are available.

 

[vddobrev]

I actually don't feel super favorable about the space gray color. It had a sort of muted quality to it. It wasn't like a metallicy he space gray.

Me too, I much prefer the silver.

 

[Devyn89]

awesome! congrats.

Were you able to get any discount ?

I got a student discount, it wasn't much but it helped, especially for apple care.

 

[zcohenzion]

Decided to get the non-douchbar MBP with 16GB ram.
Not sure if it's worth spending the extra $300 for the i7 upgrade too?
My uses are mostly simple but I want to keep this laptop in top form for 5-6 years...

Any suggestions?

 

[vddobrev]

Decided to get the non-douchbar MBP with 16GB ram.
Not sure if it's worth spending the extra $300 for the i7 upgrade too?
My uses are mostly simple but I want to keep this laptop in top form for 5-6 years...

Any suggestions?

$300 divided by 60 months = $5 per month. For me, it is worth it. Others will say is not a good value, better get the touch bar version.
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is the i7 non touch bar variant also ULV proc like the 2ghz base?

Yes it is http://ark.intel.com/products/91169/Intel-Core-i7-6660U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz