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As someone pointed out earlier, it is pre-order eve and I'm excited. I have an 11Pro and I'll be ordering the 12Pro first thing in the morning. It's not going to change my life and if I had a choice between the phone or "normalcy" I'd choose the latter, but that's not an option. I love new tech and as an older, retired person I'm fortunate to be able to afford a new phone if I want one. Good luck to everyone here who is excited to be ordering a new phone in the am.
 
True and even then like I said before just not ANYONE can qualify to buy the iPhone in installments. Some have bad credit and don’t qualify or have to put down a huge down payment
If someone has such a deplorable credit rating - maybe they should be happy with a 35 dollar burner phone and concentrate on getting their financial house in order??
 
As someone pointed out earlier, it is pre-order eve and I'm excited. I have an 11Pro and I'll be ordering the 12Pro first thing in the morning. It's not going to change my life and if I had a choice between the phone or "normalcy" I'd choose the latter, but that's not an option. I love new tech and as an older, retired person I'm fortunate to be able to afford a new phone if I want one. Good luck to everyone here who is excited to be ordering a new phone in the am.
That’s an excellent take! It’s not like being excited for a device that brings you joy instantly means you don’t have context for what truly matters. We are still free to get excited over something and still maintain a healthy perspective.

Some people really struggle when others don’t share their same view. Do I have to upgrade every year? No. Doesn’t that mean I shouldn’t? No. If I have the money, I can do whatever I please with that money. I only need to account to my own feelings, not others, as to whether I feel the value is there.
 
I have an Xr, tomorrow my new phone arrives, an 11, black. I watched, and was inspired by the 15 min commercial for Verizon 5G. I’m sure it will be everything they promised LTE was, and has yet to become.

Looking forward to having an ultra wide lens. Also looking forward to paying 379 after my trade in. When the 13 or 14 comes out, I’ll buy the 12.
 
I have an Xr, tomorrow my new phone arrives, an 11, black. I watched, and was inspired by the 15 min commercial for Verizon 5G. I’m sure it will be everything they promised LTE was, and has yet to become.

Looking forward to having an ultra wide lens. Also looking forward to paying 379 after my trade in. When the 13 or 14 comes out, I’ll buy the 12.
The 11 is a fantastic phone with excellent cameras in it’s own right! I think you’ll be very pleased with it!
 
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What an ignorant view. You can get whatever iPhone you want by paying monthly installments. Don’t act like it’s a privilege to buy an iPhone.

Whatever your bank account displays, your soul is poor 🤗
It is a realistic view for some.

In my hometown the average income is $14,756.
A high end iPhone would be 10% of their yearly income.

Get a Pro Max - max'ed out and you are pretty much at 2 thousand after tax, more after interest if financed. Then a close to hundred dollar a month phone bill which is another thousand a year.
iPhone Pro Max and phone bill and we're talking 20% of the entire year on a phone.
 
I still don't understand the obsession with 5G. It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. LTE is currently faster than my home internet connection, and that's testing it with an 8 year old Samsung phone. How fast do we really need things to be these days? Even today, in my part of Kentucky, 4G LTE is sparse. Most of the time I drift between 3G to Edge or 1X (Verizon Galaxy S5) and in rural country where I work in a small golf car shop, there's literally no signal or maybe 1 bar. 5G isn't even here! Am I missing anything? Nope. I keep all my media on my devices. I'm never without any entertainment. No signal? no problem as far as I'm concerned. In fact, it's quite nice to just put a playlist of relaxing music on, and walk in the woods away from the constant barrage of needless notifications from junk mail, or ringtones of unknown callers trying to sell me crap, to spam text messages.
 
I still don't understand the obsession with 5G. It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. LTE is currently faster than my home internet connection, and that's testing it with an 8 year old Samsung phone. How fast do we really need things to be these days? Even today, in my part of Kentucky, 4G LTE is sparse. Most of the time I drift between 3G to Edge or 1X (Verizon Galaxy S5) and in rural country where I work in a small golf car shop, there's literally no signal or maybe 1 bar. 5G isn't even here! Am I missing anything? Nope. I keep all my media on my devices. I'm never without any entertainment. No signal? no problem as far as I'm concerned. In fact, it's quite nice to just put a playlist of relaxing music on, and walk in the woods away from the constant barrage of needless notifications from junk mail, or ringtones of unknown callers trying to sell me crap, to spam text messages.
 
I can only speak for myself here. I am a single person, not a partier, don’t go to the movies or eat out much, and my child is long since grown and gone. My iPhone and iPad are are the main luxuries I allow myself. I still have my XS Max, so I haven’t upgraded in 2 years. What other folks spend going out to eat and a movie once a week more than covers my phone payment.

I think a lot of people are like me, in that they enjoy their tech and shouldn’t be criticized because of it. When people make fun of me because I’m an older girl spending money on the latest iPhone, I “nicely” tell them that when they start paying my bills, then they can tell me how I should spend my money. I work for every penny I get and I am my sole support.

I’m not all that worried about the camera, but I still want the new iPhone Pro Max. My point is, no one should be criticized because they want to spend their money on a new piece of tech, and no one should be criticized because they don’t.

I couldn’t agree with you more. A new iPhone is the one expensive gift I buy myself every year except when the X launched (which I kept for 18 months) and the XS Max (which I’ve now had for 18 months). I’m moving back to yearly upgrades and like you said when a person start to pay my bills, then they can tell me what I can and can not buy.
 
The decision to buy or not buy is mine alone, no one else’s.
I was asking your opinion what exciting or thrilling are you finding in new phone? Not I’m telling you to not buy new phone (IDK):

And if still your reply is :- “The decision to buy or not buy is mine alone, no one else’s”. You don’t need to reply to this post. Don’t tell me that again and again.
 
I was asking your opinion what exciting or thrilling are you finding in new phone? Not I’m telling you to not buy new phone (IDK):

And if still your reply is :- “The decision to buy or not buy is mine alone, no one else’s”. You don’t need to reply to this post. Don’t tell me that again and again.
I haven’t gotten a new one in two years, also the “new” form factor, and I love iPhones. I used to upgrade every year and decided not to upgrade last year, so I’m ready for the new one. An early Christmas gift to myself.
 
I used to upgrade every year and decided not to upgrade last year, so I’m ready for the new one.

still rocking my 7 for now about 3 years, with one battery replacement in between (all payed by the company). Before I had the 5S and the 4 as only iPhones. I can't [under]stand people who are changing their phone every year, just to have the "newest" device, while ignoring impact on the environment. Rather keep it for 2-3 years, save money and enjoy bigger jumps in terms of new features.
☝🏿☝🏿☝🏿Quote from another thread. Makes totally sence and I completely agree 👍🏻
 
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How has this thread progressed so much?
1. Do you need/want a new phone? Yes, go to step 2.
2. Can you afford and are you willing to pay for an iPhone? Yes, go to step 3. No, get an Android or keep your current.
3. Decide which iPhone to buy, buy it and get on with life.

End.
 
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I’m keeping my 11 Pro. For me the 12 series is nothing special, not enough to warrant me changing iPhones anyway. I upgrade every 2 years, which allows me to appreciate real differences. I came to my 11 Pro from an iPhone 8.
 
I was ready to buy the 12 mini but the price appears too high for me. At half the dough the SE isn’t actually half bad. I just wanted to have the same all-screen design on my iPad pro and iPhone but at 800€ it’s pushing into iPad pro territory.

3 years ago I paid 350€for a SE
now an SE costs 475€ but has a bigger and better screen. The home button is obnoxious, though. There are trade-offs. The 12 mini won’t give me more use cases, it just have a slightly faster processor I don’t care about.
 
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Perhaps this year has made me realize that phones aren't a very important thing in life, especially when the phone I have is more than sufficient.

Kinda sad it took you that long to realize that, but at least you did! As someone who hasn't upgraded for many, many years I still find it pretty exciting though to finally get a days worth of battery life and speedier apps though.
 
I mean I don't have to proof to anyone why should I upgrade, neither does one need to justify his/her purchase over another person's "opinion". One man's meat is another man's poison.
 
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It often happens with tire kickers. They're interested in looking at the car, but when it comes down to forking out real money, they back out. Not everyone can afford it.
Your point does seem to be a little irrelevant to talking about the excitement or lack of with a new iPhone though. Can you put a monetary value of appeal or excitement???
 
If your credit is bad you get rejected. If your credit is bad carriers will want upwards of a 50% down payment. So no not everyone can get monthly payments for iPhones. Most people cannot afford high end smartphones which is why low and mid tier phones reign supremes sales wise. It’s a privilege to buy any smartphone 700+ since most people really can’t afford to buy one outright. Heck most Americans nor most people in 1st/2nd world countries can afford a 600.00 emergency expense.
Buying a £700+ smartphone isn’t about wealth and everything about priority with someone’s spending. There are plenty of examples of people on benefits or low income/ minimum wage jobs using iPhone 11 Pro Max’s. You don’t have to be wealthy to have a good credit score even. I often see ads go up selling these phones where the owner can’t afford the repayments and rather default on the bill, they sell the device to pay it off. People shouldn’t assume a phone model indicates whether a person is successful or not because the most common phones in the business sector are often cheaper devices.
 
Buying a £700+ smartphone isn’t about wealth and everything about priority with someone’s spending. There are plenty of examples of people on benefits or low income/ minimum wage jobs using iPhone 11 Pro Max’s. You don’t have to be wealthy to have a good credit score even. I often see ads go up selling these phones where the owner can’t afford the repayments and rather default on the bill, they sell the device to pay it off. People shouldn’t assume a phone model indicates whether a person is successful or not because the most common phones in the business sector are often cheaper devices.

I agree, it’s all about priorities. If you don’t have any expensive hobbies, don’t travel a lot and ie don’t have any kids, even a badly paid job will enable someone to buy a new iPhone cash every year.
 
It is very obvious that many people responding to the OP's post do not understand the point that is trying to be made.

Apple for many years have put the 'wow' factor in us when it comes to new product launches. At some point, each of us have had that euphoria 'wow' factor when a new product comes along. Many of us had it with the different colors of the imacs and ibooks (clamshells), the G4 cube, the first ipod's, the first ipod touch, the first ipad, the first iphone, the first apple watch. Regardless of what was going on in ones life, whether it be good or bad, seeing a new product launch with all the razzmatazz that went along with it gave us a kind of warm fuzzy feeling inside, the feeling that made us go 'I want it but i do not really need it'.

With the latest offerings of iphones, ipads and macbooks, because they look the same as previous models with only slight differences between the old and new, this has for many Apple fans caused them to lose the 'wow' factor because they are seeing the same thing rolled out time and time again and that is the point that is trying to be made. Rather than fan's going 'wow, i want it but don't need it', they are going 'Meh..whatever' instead.

The last product launch that made me go 'wow, i want it but don't need it' was the Apple watch. Everything else has been 'meh, same looking thing but with hardware upgrades'. I want to spend money on Apple products but as the way things are going at the moment, that is not going to happen.
 
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