This is mostly how I feel about the iPhone 6/6 Plus

[blairh]

With Touch ID you take the phone out of your pocket, and press the home button once. Unlocked. Doesn't get any faster than that.

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I owned a Moto X and used it as my primary phone for about a month. Their software gimmicks grew quite tiresome. I've since sold it and replaced it with a Nexus 5.

Press the home button to wake. Hold your thumb to unlock. It's fast, no doubt. But unlocking the Moto X is faster. Unquestionably. Swipe down once. And you're done.

And Active Display is not a gimmick. It's the best notification feature in mobile today.

 

[MikeyMike01]

Press the home button to wake. Hold your thumb to unlock. It's fast, no doubt. But unlocking the Moto X is faster. Unquestionably. Swipe down once. And you're done.

Perhaps. But you're trading a very small speed difference for a significant security deficit.

 

[blairh]

Perhaps. But you're trading a very small speed difference for a significant security deficit.

I am. But I strongly prefer being able to unlock quicker.

 

[Lloydbm41]

With Touch ID you take the phone out of your pocket, and press the home button once. Unlocked. Doesn't get any faster than that.

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I owned a Moto X and used it as my primary phone for about a month. Their software gimmicks grew quite tiresome. I've since sold it and replaced it with a Nexus 5.

Gimmicks? Please. Active notifications = awesome. Active listening = awesome. Motorola Migrate = awesome. Motorola Connect = awesome. Motorola Assist drive mode = awesome

Google is now using some of these "gimmicks" now BTW. But according to you they suck, and now they are in the Nexus 5.

 

[MikeyMike01]

I am. But I strongly prefer being able to unlock quicker.

I do find that I'm more easily able to use Touch ID without looking as compared to a swipe. That way I do it while it's coming out of my pocket, it's unlocked before I even see it usually. So for me, it's faster.

 

[blairh]

I do find that I'm more easily able to use Touch ID without looking as compared to a swipe. That way I do it while it's coming out of my pocket, it's unlocked before I even see it usually. So for me, it's faster.

In that specific scenario it's probably close or even to a swipe. But my gripes go beyond just that. Like not having active display or a notification light on the iPhone. Having your screen light up or an alert on your lock screen isn't a great system.

 

[jeffe]

It amazes me how much Android people spend analyzing the iPhone

We got bigger screens, yes, but we also got new layouts for developers to work with those new screens. When the bigger Androids started coming out, like the Notes, they were treating them like as if they were like the bigger 7" tablets. I was looking at the Material Design guidelines earlier today, but it seems they're still not treating these phones any differently like they REALLY should be.

I don't understand what you are trying to say. Android introduced fragments to deal with larger screens and developers can choose separate layouts for whichever screen size they want. Are you saying that the developer guide is not encouraging developers to design different layouts for every type of phone size?

 

[Shanghaichica]

I don't understand what you are trying to say. Android introduced fragments to deal with larger screens and developers can choose separate layouts for whichever screen size they want. Are you saying that the developer guide is not encouraging developers to design different layouts for every type of phone size?

I've never seen a badly optimised app on an android phone in terms of adapting to screen size. Android have always done well in this respect so I don't know why Apple are trying to make a big deal out of it just because they now have a few different sized screens.

 

[jamezr]

In that specific scenario it's probably close or even to a swipe. But my gripes go beyond just that. Like not having active display or a notification light on the iPhone. Having your screen light up or an alert on your lock screen isn't a great system.

I wish all phones had a notification light! I don't know why all phones don't have that simple little feature. It is nice to be able to know if and what you have on your phone just by looking at it.......

 

[tbayrgs]

I've never seen a badly optimised app on an android phone in terms of adapting to screen size. Android have always done well in this respect so I don't know why Apple are trying to make a big deal out of it just because they now have a few different sized screens.

I've seen plenty, though admittedly it was more of an issue with apps applying the same layout for a tablet as they would for a phone. Just because my phone and tablet have the same (or nearly the same) resolution doesn't mean they should have the same layout.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I've seen plenty, though admittedly it was more of an issue with apps applying the same layout for a tablet as they would for a phone. Just because my phone and tablet have the same (or nearly the same) resolution doesn't mean they should have the same layout.

Oh on android tablets have but not on phones.

 

[tbayrgs]

Oh on android tablets have but not on phones.

I think the point though, is the developers now have the option to customize layouts for specific phone sizes, like the way Apple has changed the layout for Messages on the larger iPhone. You don't see this at all for different device sizes, much less phone sizes on Android, at least not yet.

 

[Dmaynard83]

Press the home button to wake. Hold your thumb to unlock. It's fast, no doubt. But unlocking the Moto X is faster. Unquestionably. Swipe down once. And you're done.



And Active Display is not a gimmick. It's the best notification feature in mobile today.

I'm a big fan of the moto x but the fingerprint sensor on iPhones are still faster.

You touch home button and it unlocks. Can't get any better than that.

 

[blairh]

I'm a big fan of the moto x but the fingerprint sensor on iPhones are still faster.

You touch home button and it unlocks. Can't get any better than that.

Faster in the sense of when you include security. Swiping down on my Moto X screen is technically faster than hitting a physical button and waiting a second for Touch ID to read my fingerprint. Yes, it's very fast. But not faster than a quick swipe down.

What I would like to see down the road is the ability to enable the Touch ID unlock without having to push down on the button first to wake the iPhone. And like I said earlier I think the iPhone would really benefit from a notification light. The current system of your screen lighting up or an alert at your lock screen is flawed IMO. Active Display is still the best system IMO.

 

[dgree03]

My issue is mainly with the value of an iPhone 6+ compared to the note 4, or iPhone 6 compared to a Nexus 5 (Or upcoming Nexus 6)

For an additional $300 for an iPhone 6+ 128gb off contract, what am I getting?

Most would say, iOS, but again what are the differences that justify $300 difference?

Note 4 at least offers some additional functionality to utilize the added screen real estate, but the iPhone 6+ does very little to take advantage of that.

In the end, like every year, I will try the phone. But I am not too confident that I will keep it.

 

[Qwestionable]

Faster in the sense of when you include security. Swiping down on my Moto X screen is technically faster than hitting a physical button and waiting a second for Touch ID to read my fingerprint. Yes, it's very fast. But not faster than a quick swipe down.

What I would like to see down the road is the ability to enable the Touch ID unlock without having to push down on the button first to wake the iPhone. And like I said earlier I think the iPhone would really benefit from a notification light. The current system of your screen lighting up or an alert at your lock screen is flawed IMO. Active Display is still the best system IMO.

I can't believe you are still arguing for the Moto X unlock with such a huge benefit to the Touch ID/home button function. If faster by milliseconds, it gets trounced b/c of the security enhancement. I will have to give Apple credit here that it is a slick implementation.

 

[blairh]

I can't believe you are still arguing for the Moto X unlock with such a huge benefit to the Touch ID/home button function. If faster by milliseconds, it gets trounced b/c of the security enhancement. I will have to give Apple credit here that it is a slick implementation.

I'm not arguing anything. I'm responding to people who keep bringing it up. And I personally want the option that is fastest. I unlock my phone countless times a day. And yes, for now I'm willing to take the faster option versus the more secure one. And personally it's a moot point as I doubt I'm going to be using an iPhone for the next two years. I find the redesign to be pretty meh.

 

[Dmaynard83]

I'm not arguing anything. I'm responding to people who keep bringing it up. And I personally want the option that is fastest. I unlock my phone countless times a day. And yes, for now I'm willing to take the faster option versus the more secure one. And personally it's a moot point as I doubt I'm going to be using an iPhone for the next two years. I find the redesign to be pretty meh.

The s4 had that active display feature. It was something I disabled.

 

[blairh]

The s4 had that active display feature. It was something I disabled.

I'm not sure what feature you are referring to on the S4. I'm talking about Active Display on the Moto X, which is entirely different if I had to guess and is not comparable in any way. Active Display is now known as Moto Display on the new Moto X and it's arguably the best notification system in mobile today.

 

[Dmaynard83]

I'm not sure what feature you are referring to on the S4. I'm talking about Active Display on the Moto X, which is entirely different if I had to guess and is not comparable in any way. Active Display is now known as Moto Display on the new Moto X and it's arguably the best notification system in mobile today.

You wave your hand over the phone and see the date, time, any new messages etc. It felt more of a gimmick.

If anything on the moto x they should brag about it touchless voice control. Every phone should have this.

 

[blairh]

You wave your hand over the phone and see the date, time, any new messages etc. It felt more of a gimmick.

Again, you are talking about a different feature on a different phone.

 

[Truefan31]

Well I think Touch ID is better overall than the swipe on the moto x. The security of it on top of it being what, milliseconds slower is a good trade off.

Btw my 5s is jb with virtual home so yes I just lay my finger on it and it wakes and unlocks

 

[BoxerGT2.5]

You wave your hand over the phone and see the date, time, any new messages etc. It felt more of a gimmick.

If anything on the moto x they should brag about it touchless voice control. Every phone should have this.

That's quick glance on the Samsung, it's quite different than the active display. You get a notification on the X and it "breaths" the notification on the screen in intervals until you acknowledge it or act on it. You get a text on the iPhone and if you don't hear it, you don't know it ever came until the next notification comes or you fire up the entire screen.

 

[pacmacman]

Isn't it though? I don't see much screaming high end. The screen resolution was already done by a $300 phone a year ago. The bezels are still humongous. The metal body isn't anything new. I suppose it is very thin and it has the fingerprint sensor.

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Look memes! The professional way to make your point.

Other than the state of the art OS, fingerprint technology, and a payment echo system that will actually be ready to go on launch day? A class of apps available to the device that run better than any other ecosystem on the market? Best-in-industry customer support?

Oh yeah, the bezel. You're right, that ain't high end. One thing *everyone* said about the HTC One M8 was how mid-range it looked cause of those bezels. Good poin...oh. Maybe it wasn't...?

P.S. Your next post will undoubtedly reference specs and you'll use some argument about "2012 phone" and yada yada. I'll save you time: Android phones have proven over and over again that specs really don't matter. Vendors release phones with bleeding edge specs that run like crap, lag, have tons of bloat, and offer features that work maybe half the time. I can't believe you guys still wave around your 3gb of RAM!! while the phone you're holding can't even get from one screen to another without stuttering.

Oh but..wait, I can ROOT it, right?? Cause that's what normal human beings do with their phones when they buy them. They don't want to pull them out of the box, and then..I dunno..USE THEM. Noooo. They want to download the latest H0tNovaX5 ROM 15 times and reboot the phone another 20 so they can add a soundboard of their friend's beer farts.

Man, I wish Apple would catch up to all that!

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Oh but..wait, I can ROOT it, right?? Cause that's what normal human beings do with their phones when they buy them. They don't want to pull them out of the box, and then..I dunno..USE THEM. Noooo. They want to download the latest H0tNovaX5 ROM 15 times and reboot the phone another 20 so they can add a soundboard of their friend's beer farts.

Man, I wish Apple would catch up to all that!

Yea, so different than the normal human beings who jailbreak and are afraid to update cause they would lose their jailbroken features for several months. Or the the ones who can only tether jailbreak and pray they don't need to reboot on the road.